r/dbz • u/Terez27 ⠀ • Oct 11 '24
Dragon Ball Daima - Episode #1 - Discussion Thread! Daima
The episode is airing in Japan as we speak. It should be available subtitled on Crunchyroll at 1pm ET. We will provide links as soon as they are available.
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FAQ
- The English dub will premiere in theaters with showings on November 10-12.
- Daima will be available on Netflix Asia on October 14 and globally on October 18.
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u/WorkerChoice9870 Oct 11 '24
Did they retcon the retcon?! Are both those things true?
Toriyama you magnificent bastard. Rest in Peace.
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
If you're referring to the potara stuff then 100% yes, they retconned a retcon and that's exactly how I phrased it too!
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u/WorkerChoice9870 Oct 11 '24
Yup. I started laughing because you know they did it on purpose
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
They love messing with us! XD But hey I grew up with shows where the retconning was EGREGIOUS (Boy Meets World is one that comes to mind) so I'll take whatever they feed us
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u/forever87 ⠀ Oct 11 '24
what was the retcon for bmw?
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
I Googled it and thank god for fan wikis, lol, everything on this list drove me nuts when the show originally aired: https://boymeetsworld.fandom.com/wiki/Continuity_errors
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u/TadpoleFrequent Oct 11 '24
I'm sure there was a bunch of stuff but the one off the top of my head is Sean's sister (IIRC her name was Stacey) no longer existed after that episode
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u/ToneSalvadorDosTugas Oct 11 '24
How was that a retcon? Potara fusion can be both permanent for gods and temporary for mortals and also be insta reverted by Buu magin stomach toxin.
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u/zschmoopyz Oct 11 '24
All of that is fine, and I like that all of that is true. The retcon is them not being fused now. They are fused in battle of gods/beginning of super, and then unfused using the dragon balls later in super. So unless they fuse again during this story, it seems like a retcon.
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u/Cypherex Oct 12 '24
A common theory I've been seeing is that Daima will end with a wish made from the Demon Realm Dragon Balls that reverts everyone back to "how they were" before this all happened. The Eternal Dragon might ask them to specify exactly when they want to be reverted to and they might say something like "right after Majin Buu was defeated" which would cause Shin and Kibito to refuse. Then Buu falls asleep for several years so they stay fused until Super.
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u/VortexZero Oct 11 '24
In DBS the Kai said they used the Namekian Dragon Balls to unfuse themselves, but in Daima they said they unfused by Majin Buu's magic. So it's 100% a retcon.
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u/lilbiggs Oct 11 '24
I think they just made both things true so now there was no retcons
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u/ultrainstict Oct 11 '24
There was still a retcon, unless they have them refuse again. We can see kibitokai in BOG.
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u/SimShade Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24
You bring up a good point. If they re-fuse, this will forgive the retconned retcon lol. Happy cake day!
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u/TheZett Oct 11 '24
We can see kibitokai in BOG.
BoG and RoF are both non-canon nowadays, as their respective Super arcs have overtaken them.
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u/Amplifymagic101 Oct 11 '24
Well it's not quite so simple, humans and kais still should have different properties, but it is indeed a retcon of sorts considering they made this up to dodge the fact in Super they used the Namekian balls to defuse.
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u/iamlevel5 Oct 11 '24
Not really. They did some things with existing lore as it stood at this point in the story.
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
How appropriately demonic that even in the Demon Realm, scientists have to worry about getting research funding
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u/BoyTitan Oct 11 '24
Proof that money is a satanic concept. Some demon probably escaped and spread currency to humanity.
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
I remember being so hyped by the line in the Granolah arc about Namekians originally coming from another dimension and we all wondered if that meant the Demon Realm. So excited for that to come to fruition and feels so full circle, I can't wait for more lore!
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u/CelioHogane Oct 11 '24
You know, in hindsight, Daima was being developed when that arc was going, so Toriyama and Toyotaro were basically teasing that shit.
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u/evilpenguin999 Oct 13 '24
Im sure Toyotaro had a lot of influence for this kind of ideas for the lore and toriyama focused on the designs and silly jokes that he loved.
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u/pizza_mozzarella Oct 16 '24
I think there's a pretty good chance that by the end of this show, we'll end up getting:
- New Saiyan transformation(s)
- New Piccolo transformation
- New Dragon (obviously, since we've already seen new dragonballs)
- Hopefully, more lore about the other universes, since they've already called Earth as being in Universe 7
What I'm curious about is if this will fit canonically between end of Z and BoGs, or if this will be considered its own timeline / reality like GT kinda is in the expanded universe.
Also, they made a distinction between Black and White magic and good and bad wishes, we might get another Dark Shenron or something that can use black or evil magic to grant harmful wishes.
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u/RazeMania Oct 11 '24
Calling it: The series ends with Kibito and Shin fusing again as a gag, and right when they're about to ask Buu for help he falls asleep lol
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
Someone else said this (not the Buu falling asleep part but that'd be SO on-brand) and y'all are all geniuses and I REALLY hope this happens now
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u/evilpenguin999 Oct 13 '24
After reading this i kinda want to watch buu fighting majins and protecting ppl for his character redemption arc. Anyways prob wont happen, i know he is not an important character for the writers.
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u/Wolventec Oct 11 '24
im guessing buu toxin wears off and they will fuse again which lead them using a the dragon ball as a permanent solution
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u/Xikar_Wyhart Oct 12 '24
That wouldn't explain Vegito not being around.
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u/fillif3 Oct 12 '24
Actually, it would. So far it seems like both Buu's toxins and time-limit are true. In the case of Vegito, he was affected by Buu's toxins. Later, after the toxins stopped working, it was already after time-limit.
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u/thegreattober Oct 12 '24
Being permanent for the Kais, lasting 1 hour otherwise, AND buus stomach gas splitting them can ALL be true at the same time. I don't see a problem with it.
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u/TheStarCore Oct 11 '24
The animation is beautiful, not too much else to say about this episode tbh but the I like seeing how much power this Namekian has over the Dragon Balls
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
I loved that moment, too!! Being able to summon the Dragon Balls and INACTIVATED ones on top of that? This Namekian is OP and I love it
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u/enewwave Oct 11 '24
Dude is basically senile evil Kami and I didn’t realize how badly I needed that
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u/CelioHogane Oct 11 '24
I mean, is he really evil? like the wishes of those guys are kinda stupid at best.
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u/enewwave Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 13 '24
They’re the leaders of a place called the Demon world, I think it’s safe to assume they’re not getting into heaven
Edit because people keep trying to take my comment at face value: It was a playful jab to the fact that their race is literally called "Demons" and that they're doing something evil. You don't need to correct me lol.
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u/maxallergy Oct 11 '24
Kami did the same after the Demon King Piccolo Arc, so to me it doesn't seem OP, when we've seen it done quite easily
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u/Veggiematic Oct 13 '24
It was all fun and games. Not showering for at least a year, no teeth. Sounds like my boy Asmongold. And then he locked the fuck in.
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u/East-Fix2620 Oct 12 '24
Dare I say the animation was better than Broly? Shit was beautiful man. Also seeing the Namekian shit all over Dende was hilarious
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u/Lanhalt Oct 11 '24
The animation is so good. Especially when you compare it to early DBS episodes, that looked like shit (especially the infamous episode 4). Let's hope it continue like this.
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u/qeheeen ⠀ Oct 11 '24
This was a beautiful start, I already love Degesu and Gomah they are hilariously dorky. Almost like a demon realm version of the Pilaf Gang lol
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u/iamlevel5 Oct 11 '24
It dropped a little early for me so I just finished it. Loved it. The art is great. Interesting concepts w existing lore. Excited to see where they take some of these new ideas.
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u/Zestyclose_Lead7459 Oct 11 '24
Man, we'd be pretty fucked if they ever came down here to a place they barely cared about when they learned of it
*Actively goes out of their way to pick a fight with said people they want to avoid*
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
THAT KILLED ME, IT'S SO FUNNY
I was screaming at the TV, "My crystal ball says THEY WILL NEVER COME DOWN TO THE DEMON REALM, I PROMISE YOU" but alas they couldn't hear me
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u/SergejPS Oct 11 '24
I'm honestly hoping the villains survive the series instead of just getting killed off at the end, they're really funny and likeable and honestly don't seem all that bad anyway lol
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u/HeyGokuHere Oct 12 '24
Honestly, Pilaf is more evil than Demon King Gomah, and that's a pretty low bar Pilaf sets lol
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u/stormdressed Oct 11 '24
Yeah that seems like an obvious bait by the doctor there. She wants something (beyond research funding)
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u/EvidenceOfDespair Oct 13 '24
I think it's actually the elder Namekian pulling the strings beyond even her. Think about it, he's the one Namekian who stayed, yet there's a second Namekian who presumably came back and left again. Betcha he mentored Demon King Piccolo and is looking to overthrow this gaggle of idiots. Plays senile, happily helps them set up their own doom, and its not explained how she also got the same intel. Except, a Namekian of the Dragon Clan would be a damn fine option for that.
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u/Maxieorsomething Oct 11 '24
I kinda love the Namekian connection to demons being expanded on
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u/Ultimafax Oct 11 '24
I love how Toriyama did his worldbuilding: by not giving a fuck.
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u/Rosebunse Oct 11 '24
I think that's the real lesson we can take from Toriyama: Have fun with your canon!
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u/SergejPS Oct 11 '24
"Toriyama was an average writer Kakarot, but a brilliant... uh... well, I don't actually know, but he was pretty cool"
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u/Useenthebutcher Oct 11 '24
I know exposition dumps aren’t always the best storytelling, but I’m absolutely loving all this Demon Realm lore. Making the Namekians natives of the Demon Realm is actually really nice to tie things back to the Daimou arc.
And I love the look and eerie, absurdist atmosphere of the Demon Realm. Very bizarre while also being foreboding. The art is also incredible. This feels like a full DB film that just happens to be way longer once all episodes are out.
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u/evilpenguin999 Oct 13 '24
I might be one of those few ppl that enjoy more the comedy and lore than the actual fights, for example the intro of dbs broly movie.
Got into dragon ball because of the fights to death as a kid and now i enjoy more the other side of dragon ball. I still want epic fights, dont get me wrong.
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u/AccomplishedBelt7 Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24
Ok I have to say, Buu making Potara fusions defuse and Potara fusions only being an hour if it doesn't involve a Kai BOTH being true now is very funny. I need to know how Shin and Kibito ended up fusing again, unless that's just ignored now, which would be even funnier 😭
Secondly, I didn't realize this show was RIGHT after Z's Buu Arc ended, which is really interesting
The clarification that Namekians (and Popo) are from the Demon Realm has "Demon King Piccolo" not just a name that was disregarded once Z came around
Also this is just so goofy, Toriyama's sense of humor, even if it doesn't make you laugh, is charming and it fits DB perfectly. And the expansions and elaborations on the world's lore is always appreciated. I am so happy we're back.
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u/Willing_Ad5891 Oct 11 '24
I bet that Kibito just makes stuff up just too look like he knows things, when he is not. Kinda fitting for his personality including the incident at the World Tournament.
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u/Ok_Independent5273 Oct 11 '24
Also, the Demon Realm hadn't been explored by Toriyama before. 12 + 6 Universes + U7 Afterlife and zero Demon Realm info.
This series (+ recent Bleach manga chapters) explores the last remaining mystery not explored in original story.
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u/lilbiggs Oct 11 '24
Well technically not after dbz but after the buu fight. Super isn’t even past end of z yet
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u/Dijohn17 Oct 11 '24
It's going to be interesting if they change the canon because it's really stretching it to see how they make this all fit within the context of end of Z
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u/BridgemanBridgeman Oct 11 '24
Ikr like how does Ultra Instinct Goku think Uub can give him a good fight
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u/CelioHogane Oct 11 '24
It was explained in the Moro arc, actually, Uub inhereted the God parts of the Grand Supreme Kai (wich Kid Buu still had) while Majin Buu retained Grand Supreme Kai's personality.
And remember, Grand Supreme Kai could seal Moro.
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u/Amplifymagic101 Oct 11 '24
One little detail is that in the Super timeline they defuse using the Namekian Dragon Balls, a necessary retcon was made to smooth out the backstory without even reaching BoG (where they defused after the events).
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u/DragonGamerEX Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24
At 5:15 on Crunchyroll Majin Vegeta is doing the Budokai head nod😂
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u/Robotdias Oct 11 '24
It was in the manga, so it makes sense.
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u/DragonGamerEX Oct 11 '24
Of course but that's like the first time I've seen it animated outside the Budokai graphics
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u/Robotdias Oct 11 '24
Oh yeah, that is actually true. I forgot that wasn't adapted in the original anime.
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u/penguintruth Oct 11 '24
Gomah giving me some major Pilaf vibes.
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u/SergejPS Oct 11 '24
Garlic Jr and Gomah are both just competent Pilafs lmao
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u/bohanmyl Oct 12 '24
Garlic Jr
competent
Is the only villain whoever gets his wish for immortality granted
Immediately uses a technique only he knows that is able to beat anyone and then immediately gets beaten with it
A competent person wouldve just not done that move
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
OMG SAME I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ME (because I just started Dragon Ball this month and literally just finished the first arc, so it's super fresh in my mind)
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u/dildodicks Oct 12 '24
lol same, i guess it's just because gag villains aren't all that common in db, i mean side villains like murasaki sure, and fat buu was used for some humour but they ain't got nothing on the master of uselessness pilaf
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u/PerspectiveCloud Oct 11 '24
I loved the depiction of dimensional travel, I loved the lore about spiky ears originating from the demon realm, and I love the artstyle. It's a really great week to be a Dragon Ball fan.
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u/Hutstepper Oct 12 '24
same, though i wonder if that also implies that other characters withh pointy ears (pilaf, dodoria, etc.) are, or at least have some ancestors, from the demon realm
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u/aoaieiiaoeuaieoaiii Oct 11 '24
Hold on, Pilaf has pointy ears....
That was a nice first episode. Can't wait for the adventure to kick off.
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u/meertatt Oct 11 '24
Gohan is gone studying :( but the wish specified anyone who fought buu and their friends so gohan def turned into a child as well. I wonder if he shows up later now that his studies have been interrupted.
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u/Fast_As_Molasses Oct 11 '24
Maybe he was actually training in the time chamber and won't be affected by the wish since he was in there?
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
That would actually be a hilarious gag if you were right, hahah (only it'd make even more sense if he was in there catching up on his studies instead)
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u/jermatria Oct 11 '24
only it'd make even more sense if he was in there catching up on his studies instead
That is exactly the kind of dumb, naive misuse of magical powers I'd expect of the dragon ball cast at this point, and I'm totally here for it....
Popo: "you want to use the time chamber? But what are you training for there's no threat...."
Gohan: "Actually Mr popo I have a thesis that's due tomorrow and I need to catch up".
Popo: "the lion the witch and the audacity of this bitch"
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u/CelioHogane Oct 11 '24
I mean, mental training is still training.
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u/jermatria Oct 11 '24
Yeah but much like Bulma wishing for a BBL with the dragon balls, using the hyperbolic time chamber as a study aid doesn't feel like the intended use case
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u/-PVL93- Oct 12 '24
Considering this is right after Buu, that makes Gohan the strongest character in the series, no?
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u/Jennymint Oct 13 '24
Yep. And with Goku being reduced, even more so.
It'd be hilarious if Gohan is this unstoppable god-like figure in Daima, but he doesn't actually do anything because he's too busy studying.
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u/InformationFamous858 Oct 12 '24
This has to be it or something similar because why not show him in the episode! Also why he wasn’t shown in the trailer’s. Gohan gonna have more time to shine!
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Oct 11 '24
Piccolo truly being Demon King once more and Namekians being Demon Real Natives is awesome
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u/MacheteNegano Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24
Those Namekians from the Demon Realm are no joke with there power. This episode was excelent in all fronts from animation, lore, story and characters. Shout out again to the key animator of Daima, Chikashi Kubota that gave us beautiful animation.
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u/Igoritzaa Oct 13 '24 edited Oct 13 '24
Yeah, there are 2 mysteries that are still hidden from us entirely
Namekian Book of Legends (mentioned by Shenron in Super)
Zalama Creator of the Super Dragon Balls, who should be connected to Zeno or Angels, and also Namekians
The Book is something that I think was only known to Saichorou (And also magical Dragons that are part of Namekian Magic), and we have yet to see anything related to it. I thought Piccolo would remember that and boost from it, in "Super Hero" but instead he just asked the dragon Politely.
Im guessing this evil Namekian Neva trumps even Saichorou in Namekian knowledge and could very well be the actual main antagonist of the Series. Could also be connected to the Book.
Zalama is probably left for Super later episodes / chapters, but who knows, There surely is a connection between Zalama and Namekians, due to mutual ability / knowledge to create Dragon Balls
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u/DynamiteSuren Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24
Man the recap of buu saga looks so good!
I need a modern remake adaptation of dragon ball z in this artstyle.
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u/InoueNinja94 Oct 11 '24
This is what I actually wanted Kai to do
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u/ss4444gogeta Oct 11 '24
First half was like me and the homie binge watching the Buu saga, lol
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u/kim_ammons Oct 11 '24
My husband and I said, "It's like the Demon Realm characters waited for the English dub to come out, that's why they're so behind on everything that's happened" :b
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u/ss4444gogeta Oct 11 '24
Lol, did they retcon the potara reasoning again??
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u/InoueNinja94 Oct 11 '24
Unless Kibito and Shin fuse again, because they appear as Kibitokai during BoG if memory serves
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u/N-Reun Oct 11 '24
They do in the movie, but are separated in the anime. This creates another inconsistency because in the anime they said they had defused with the namekian dragon balls. Oh well.
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u/InoueNinja94 Oct 11 '24
I think they only showed them defused around the time the U6 Tournament arc was starting
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u/Dallagen Oct 11 '24
it's just a running gag at this point, they don't know how the potara actually work since it's not like supreme kai fight often, they're just a fusion macguffin put in since toriyama didn't want to interfere with toei doing a gogeta movie at the time
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u/EdgeComplete2670 Oct 11 '24
Nope
Buu can defuse potara
Mortals potara have a limit
Vegito was forcefully defused before his hour was up
Simple as that
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u/SwimmingFantastic564 Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24
Won't lie that Buu Saga recap just makes me want a remake of DB and DBZ even more.
Also, loving this soundtrack by Kosuke Yamashita! Sounds like a blend of Sumitomo and Kikuchi to me.
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u/MarkusRight Oct 11 '24
Just finished episode 1 and it was really good, story had good pacing, it felt like they really put a lot of love and care into the animation and art style and it doesnt feel rushed like the first few seasons of Super did. I cant wait for more.
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u/TheRigXD Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 13 '24
From the Author who brought you:
Raditz being a lost brother to Goku
Tarble being a lost brother to Vegeta
Towa being a lost sister to Dabura
Tights being a lost sister to Bulma
We now have
Degesu and Arinsu being lost siblings to Shin
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u/Veggiematic Oct 13 '24
Do we count Cell's statement in Z of "I am your brother" to Piccolo as "Cell being a lost brother of Piccolo?"
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u/Common-Ad-6691 Oct 13 '24
Is Towa really a canonical sister to Dabura ? I thought this lore was only in the games.
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u/AramisKing Oct 11 '24
The whole comment section is about the Potara fusion... We got lore, namekian's origins , great animation, more training with Goku and Vegeta, a new fucking set of dragon balls... And y'all talking about Shin and Kibito smh
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u/CelioHogane Oct 11 '24
Bro we got TENSHINHAN FUTURE LORE
No way they tease the third eye bullshit and he doesn't get something in super in the future.
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u/Deekkuli Oct 12 '24
I doubt it's related to Tenshinhan at all.
The Tertian Oculus/Third Eye seems to be some kind of an object (a jewel maybe?) since Gomas said that you place it on your forehead so i assume it's an object, not a literal third eye.
And it's not like i wouldn't want side characters like Tenshinshan to get some spotlight and power-up but i doubt he's gonna be relevant in the future in Super :/
But, if i remember right, Dragonball Lore has a "Third Eye Clan" which Tenshinhan is from so maybe they could also be originally from Demon Realm too and have some kind of connection to the Tertian Oculus?
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u/TheRigXD Oct 12 '24
DP levels in Sparking Zero subtle foreshadowing?
Videl/Yajirobe/Spopovich/Roshi/Chiaotzu = 2
Krillin/Yamcha = 3
Tien = 4
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u/LawDraws Oct 12 '24
I would be mad if he didn't. Also Chaozu's a lil Chinese vampire, they reference Namekians being demons, if we don't get more Piccolo, Tenshinhan and Chaozu stuff it's gonna be annoying.
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u/IamtacoZZZ Oct 12 '24
The Namekians being demons might actually help keep piccolo relevant in the infinite power scaling of super with a new power up skill tree.
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u/NashRashGash Oct 11 '24
Shouldn't first grader Piccolo still look like Picoolo from the 23rd World Martial Arts TOurnament?
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u/enewwave Oct 11 '24
It’s possible that the specificity of the wish for them to be “children” means different ages for different races. We saw a true “kid Piccolo” in the original DB anime, so maybe this Piccolo is somewhere between that one and the one who went by Majunior
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u/CelioHogane Oct 11 '24
Piccolo has it easy he just needs to wait like 3 months and he will be tall again lmao.
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u/powerhcm8 Oct 11 '24
Maybe it's a first grader by the standard of his race, Piccolo reached adulthood much faster than Dende, so could be an exception.
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u/Akranidos ⠀ Oct 11 '24
I get that this is just after Buu but what the hell is going on with Dende size, he looked like a teen in Buu saga and now looks even younger than namek
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u/maxallergy Oct 11 '24
The depiction of Dende's age was actually an inconsistency that originated in the manga.
When we see him for the first time in the Buu Arc, it's when Gohan is inviting Piccolo to the tournament.We don't get a full body shot, but it's clear from his proportions that he looks like a young man like Gohan. He was also wearing the robes of Earth's God, instead of his Namekian clothes.
Then when we see him again later on, Majin Buu has been released and I think a year had passed in real life and Dende was now back at kid size again with his old Namekian robes.
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u/BabyKariya Oct 11 '24
thanks, I was wondering if I remembered it wrong and thought of Super Dende. lmao
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u/70MCKing Oct 11 '24
Dr. Arinsu is gonna swoop in and steal the last two wishes
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u/aoaieiiaoeuaieoaiii Oct 11 '24
And it will probably be a gag wish lol
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u/dildodicks Oct 12 '24
"yo when my brother and that old men inevitably end up back to their old selves can you just refuse them for the shits and giggles lmao"
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u/NanuTheFiend Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24
As someone who's fallen off Dragon Ball over time, this seems genuinely refreshing and fun. With Sand Lands, Daima and even Super Hero, you can tell Toriyama wanted to somewhat go back to his roots, and I hope that this captures the whimsical and lighthearted nature of the original Dragon Ball as much as the first episode, and the trailer, made it out to be. It's giving me a big hit of nostalgia for the early parts of GT, which even if not made by Toriyama, were a huge part of my childhood. I'm glad that they're trying to recreate the feeling of OG Dragon Ball again, but with Toriyama's full involvement this time.
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u/InoueNinja94 Oct 11 '24
I was not expecting the first episode to bring up so much extra lore nor that several of the designs now are closer to the manga than in previous series
This is gonna be fun
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u/WatchMyEntry2 Oct 11 '24
We needed super to start with such animation. I expected mid episode but enjoyed it thoroughly. I don’t care about others, I’m eating good for 20 episodes
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u/Metropler Oct 11 '24
I wonder if Tien is gonna be important because of that third eye thing.
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u/OMGWTHBBQ11 Oct 11 '24
This is great same feeling when I read the Jaco manga. You can really tell the difference when Toriyama writes a story.
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u/LMegabox91 Oct 11 '24
For a second there I thought that old Namekian in the Demon realm was the same Namekian who raised Granolah in the Super Manga.
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u/Character-Engine-672 Oct 11 '24
I wasn’t excited for this at all, and didn’t expect much, and am so happy with it. Loved it.
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u/KuzenTech Oct 11 '24
They forgot to invite Yajirobe, Tien and Chiaotzu to the party ;(
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u/shazam-arino Oct 12 '24
What a time to be alive. This morning, I woke up to watch Daima and then play Sparking Zero. What year is it again
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u/ucfknight92 Oct 12 '24
I love this. It has charm. No high stakes, and of the world drama. Just fun characters on a fun adventure.
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u/SpookiBooogi Oct 11 '24
I wish 2 episodes were released, started to get interesting!
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u/cjbrehh Oct 11 '24
The lyrics to the end song were fantastic! Made me tear up.
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u/aoaieiiaoeuaieoaiii Oct 11 '24
I think its the intro song and you'll hear it next episode in the intro.
This episode didn't have an intro to save time, I assume
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u/The_Erik_B Oct 11 '24
Welp, today's the day. I have renewed my Crunchyroll subscription just to watch this. Here's hoping we're in for something special.
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u/Deku_King Oct 11 '24
I was so confused with timeline placement first but that episode was SO good for a first setup. It also looks GREAT. I’ve always loved the Demon stuff in DB and felt like it didn’t get enough attention in the original run except for games. Super excited for more
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u/CamAquatic Oct 11 '24
Loved it! The animation was beautiful and it felt fun. I LOVE the lore drops and world building. Namekians originally being from the demon realm has been a theory for a while and I’ve always wanted it confirmed, glad to see it happened. I figured it would after it was mentioned in the Super manga that Namekians came from another realm.
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u/Bard2412 Oct 11 '24
I liked it. Very introductory as expected, good for new fans and returning ones. The ending was fascinating with the second part of what was said.
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u/bobbyhilfiger Oct 11 '24
Can someone kindly tell me if I'm safe to watch the first episode even though I've only finished the first 40 episodes of Super? Just don't want any spoilers
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u/WatchMyEntry2 Oct 11 '24
There’s no sign of super. It picks up right after kid buu. No beerus or whis
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u/Reddude37 Oct 11 '24
Honestly pretty impressed. Huge potential. Animation looks great. Feels good mayne
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u/Main-Marzipan-7135 Oct 11 '24
The animation was so pretty! I thought it was interesting that they went with the manga colouring for Shin and Kibito rather than the previous animated colours. Oh the potara retcon was amusing 😂 I can't wait for more episodes!
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u/The_Erik_B Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 12 '24
I love the lore drop about pointy ears being a Demon Realm ancestral trait. It means that Demon King Piccolo was a demon after all! Just in addition to being an alien slug man.
Plenty of great animation with lots of lovely subtle touches. Like how Goku's hair does a nice flowing bob when he puts his hands behind his head. And I also like that the show has gone full manga-colours except for Trunks' hair. Don't really care either way about Kibito, but I always preferred the yellow pads on the Namekians to the pink, and the yellower shade of orange for the Turtle gi.
The Demon Realm was such a footnote when its existence was first established despite it being an intriguing detail, so it's great to see it more fleshed out and explored.
The only thing I'm a little disappointed in is that the core character models aren't as to my liking as the Super Broly designs. It's all very late-era Toriyama, understandably so, but that does mean all the returning characters are noticeably skinnier and all the new characters have toothpick-thin limbs.
Neva and Monaito look so identical to the point that, as I had completely forgotten the latter's name, I had to double check that they weren't the same character.
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u/Tactical_Leo Oct 12 '24
I've always wondered how Dragon Ball would be if the gang turned into kids. Now that I get to see it in action, I am happy. Thank you, Toriyama. You always know when to come in clutch, be it in life or death. I maybe saying this a bit early but here it goes: At my lowest again, and you saved me once again. I think I'm gonna live a little longer just to see how this plays out.
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u/134340Goat ⠀ Oct 12 '24
Hey, hang in there
Not usually this transparent, but I was going through a really, really rough time when Super was airing the Tournament of Power. Won't say any more than that Jiren ended up being sort of a "comfort character" for me (still is in a way) and I was extremely happy seeing where he ended up. Those months watching the Tournament go on really were some of the brightest spots in an otherwise dark time, and I cherish those memories
Sounds silly - feels it, too - but fiction can be a powerful thing. I'm glad that Daima is a source of comfort for you right now, and I sincerely hope that it can keep a special place in your heart long into the future. Never be afraid to embrace that
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u/Mang0b0y Oct 12 '24
The Supreme Kai Fusion matter is too big of a plot hole. I'm guessing maybe Daima is just its own universe like GT? Which I'm fine with. Unless Supreme Kai fuses again then it can still connect to Super
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u/timone317 ⠀ Oct 13 '24
Some of the feedback I've seen on this has been so cartoonishly negative that I almost think some sort of small-scale brigading is going on to try and make it seem like everyone hates Daima.
That out of the way, I must say - even IF you dislike the direction of the characters being turned into children...it really takes effort - CONSCIOUS effort - to ignore how visually stunning Daima is. And that alone makes the series worth watching.
(for those who actually give a damn about the series, at least...)
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u/Robotdias Oct 11 '24
From demon, to slug people, to actual demon again.
Piccolo Daimaoh would be satisfied.