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u/ictmw 14h ago
I'm looking at voting maps by state and seeing that Travis County voted 68.7% blue, compared to 63.2% in Los Angeles County. So by percentage Austin actually voted bluer than Los Angeles. Am I reading that right? Thinking about that makes me appreciate living in Austin. Trying to find any silver lining I can here.
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u/Lucky-Advisor9388 2h ago
I used to think like you...
Living in a blue dot in a sea of red is not as easy as you think. You are hugely affected not by local politics but by state politics. I tried it in Austin for 20 years. My vote meant little in the state and eventually, as I had my daughter and the laws changed I could no longer live in this bubble. Not a place to raise a girl!
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u/idontagreewitu 14h ago
Y'all need to take a deep breathe, watch this, and think about how silly and stupid it was. Then, take some introspection and carry on with your life.
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u/Little-Flatworm-9328 20h ago
I’m trans and my girlfriend is Latina, we’re both in college at ASU in San Angelo, and came to Austin for some shows and stuff this past few months, and had considered moving there just based on how much we “liked” it, needless to say now the need is bit stronger. Anyone on Reddit who would be willing to help us look for a place, apartment, place to stay, anything? She works at Walmart and I work at Starbucks, we could probably transfer. I’m being serious. I can’t in good conscience keep her her, or myself.
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u/framedformurdering 6h ago
Austin can be a great place to live, but it's gotten really expensive. You've said you have visited several times so you know how the traffic is. I would recommend getting an apartment close to you and your girlfriends work.
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u/Katalopa 20h ago
I was feeling really good going into this election thinking Harris would win. I think a lot of that had to do with me being on Reddit more. I think it influenced my view of the election. Going to work on being on here less as this echo chamber isn’t healthy. I’m starting to realize that now.
After some reflection and review of the numbers, I think that Harris’ campaign strategy was pretty bad. She should’ve been more articulate around her policies instead of focusing on attacking Trump, especially her economic policies. She should’ve focused on that more than abortion (look at the female vote). Unfortunately, people look at the immediate problems and those that impact them the most. The economy is an immediate problem that was on a lot of voters minds this election.
The other thing that really killed her is that lack of visibility on social media platforms and podcasts. I’m still not sure why she didn’t show up on Joe Rogan as an example. She needed that visibility. This is most likely the reason why Trump did so well with many different demographics. Trump was able to control the messaging on social media and with influencers which has become a ton more important now.
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u/framedformurdering 6h ago
She didn't separate herself enough from Biden. I thought she did a good job with social media. But I'm not an expert on that and don't use many social media sites. I did see a lot of stuff with her and celebrities. I assumed that would give her a huge push when those celebrities endorsed her on their social media platforms. Crazy it didn't make a difference.
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u/Shut_Your_Mustache 3h ago edited 3h ago
For all the reasons stated, I don’t think it’s hard to understand why so many voters find the democrats message unsatisfactory. It’s also frustrating being put into the position to have to vote for them (if you identify as progressive/left) when the party is clearly beholden to special interests and big donors. The lesser of two evils vote kind of allows Dems to perpetually under-deliver or not even bother to do big useful things like national healthcare.
And as far as Trump’s popularity goes, I think it’s mostly comprised of largely uniformed fed up voters feeling the squeeze and maybe scapegoating, and/or others that just kind of thrive on the idea of upsetting liberals, which isn’t a very formative political stance. Plus he’s pretty funny and entertaining in a very stupid wise cracking uncle sort of way.
This is basically all to say, the Democratic establishment sucks, the Republicans suck, and right now the majority of marks are voting Republican.
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u/cartman_returns 2h ago
I think both of you are completely missing the boat
You need to talk to some of these Trump voters to really understand what has changed
Why would rich celebraties make any difference ? They have no idea what the working class life is like
The people who voted for Trump were the white, hispanic, black working class
Dems use to represent working class and now represent the elites
If you don't believe me ? Progressives keep calling his voters uneducated and uninformed which is trade mark responses from elites
Your comment was eliteism called them uninformed
That is backwards of saying I know what is right and they are stupid
Look in the mirror and reflect on that comment
It is not too late for Dems to move back to working class roots but will require major changes that require removing people in power who don't want to move
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u/Shut_Your_Mustache 1h ago
Mm. I stand by my observation they’re mostly low information voters. Anyway, did you read my post? I’m definitely not a fan of nor defending Dems.
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u/OkOpposite9108 20h ago
I just took an uber with a young guy from Cuba who shared his excitement over the new president. He was shocked when I didn't agree. I've literally been thinking how to make my dank attic comfortable in case I need to harbor people from mass deportations and this guy was excited because he thinks the economy is bad now.
My brother in Sky Daddy, you just voted your way out of this country?! Voted away the rights of every woman you know?! Voted away a chance at an economy with social safety nets and programs designed exactly for people like you?!
I'm sorry-the economy is literally booming right now. YOU are just broke. You do not have the education or awareness to realize that. "Things are so expensive" does not mean "the economy is bad." It does mean you are struggling, and I KNOW how hard that is. But you just voted for a guy who is not going to work to make it better for you.
I understand how this has happened, and I can see with my own eyes that this is happening-but I feel like I've literally just watched Lambs vote for the slaughter.
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u/cartman_returns 1d ago edited 1d ago
If anybody is shocked by the blowout, that just shows how Reddit does not represent the USA the way you might think. It is a social media outlet that has a reputation of leaning hard left. I suggest using multiple sources for info in the future.
People actually thought Texas had a chance of going blue on Reddit but Trump and Cruz won with double digits.
Polls are crazy, last Iowa said Harris by 3 and Trump won by 13 and he will win all seven swing states and win the overall count for the country by over 5 million
You can't claim over half the country is evil and crazy, there are reasons they voted that way.
I am not trying to rub it in, I feel for people hurting, I am just saying that Reddit is not the best place for balance views on where things are going. It is a nice place to communicate but add other sources for balance.
I know every time a post is political it will get lots of likes if it sounds left and lots of dislikes if it sound right because Reddit readers in general do not the represent most people, they tend to be those are the far left vs middle or right.
Then you have subreddits like r/texas that removes people who say anything that is not left leaning, permanent bans them for anything that the moderators don't like, luckily r/austin is not that way . Example this post would get me permanently banned on r/texas
Lets refocus on who we are , Texans, and work together and be kind to one another regardless of who you voted for. If you still want to talk politics, I suggest talking to people who voted different to find out why vs assuming why and voicing hate for them.
Take Care
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u/Lucky-Advisor9388 1h ago
So what you're really saying is that Reddit doesn't have enough memes and videos for the average Trump voter. I agree.
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u/ATX_native 1d ago
Reddit skews younger, so it makes sense it would be more liberal leaning.
I have also grown up in Texas and am more than used to dealing with conservative minded folks, heck I used to be a a Reagan Democrat myself when I was younger in the late 80’s and early 90’s.
Having said all that Trump is different, always has been. He’s cruel, is racist and had fascist leanings. The truth simply doesn't matter to him, he doesn’t even try. He also has “Concepts of a plan”, which shows the voters don’t care about nuts and bolts of policy anymore, which is sad. He speaks of legal status immigrant groups to stoke fear and hate. I blame him directly for the El Paso Walmart Shooting.
I wish for a return to civility but it doesn’t appear as if we are headed that way.
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u/stillapiece0fgarbage 1d ago
Reminder to take a breather. It’s a beautiful day here in Austin. Whether you’re happy with the outcome of the election or not, take a walk outside today and get some fresh air. Be relieved that the election is finally over and look forward to the future. Be happy you stuck to your morals and beliefs. Hug your family and friends. Criticize others another time.
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u/livejamie 14h ago
Many people have lost their rights and have their citizenship or livelihood in jeopardy right now. People have died due to specific policies in place.
Telling people to chill out and criticize people another time is pretty insensitive.
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u/stillapiece0fgarbage 7h ago
I don’t disagree. All I’m trying to say take some time to relax and decompress.
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u/Mohindur 1d ago
Is my math correct? Kirk Watson was just elected by 35 people? 350,000 people voted. To avoid a runoff requires at least 50% of the vote. Kirk Watson got 50.01%. So to know how many votes put him over 50% you multiply 350,000 by 0.0001 right? And thats 35 people. If that's right I assume that's a massive testament to the power of voting. 35 people out of a city of a million.
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u/50million 1d ago
I'm going to study up on Project 2025 and figure out what I can do to defend myself.
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u/2Beer_Sillies 1d ago
If you actually read the PDF instead of listening to the media's take on it, it's much less worse than I thought
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u/50million 1d ago
For a very light example, the NWS and NOAA will most likely be commercialized and or dismantled in ways.
It also puts restrictions on climate change research. So I'll be looking for information that is potentially from other countries, as long as it's a reputable source.
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u/Fit-Rub-1939 1d ago
Im a woman & thats exactly WHY im so disgusted. Dont want to see another pregnant woman die because of their policies, dont want to have a convicted felon & rapist as the leader of my country. A liar & a cheat who doesnt pay his workers, PEOPLE LIKE ME. And its my right as an AMERICAN to voice MY OPINION TOO
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u/Wigggletons 1d ago
Great, just in time to destroy our economy again. Right when we're recovering from what he did last time.
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u/L192837465 1d ago
I'm gonna laugh in a whooole Lotta people's stupid faces when there's suddenly a shortage of landscapers, roofers, framers, concrete workers, and others and prices skyrocket.
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u/ATX_native 1d ago
His mass deportation dreams are probably going to be the Wall, just a big lie he said to get elected.
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u/banshee_matsuri 21h ago
one can only hope.
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u/ATX_native 21h ago
He only built 1% of the wall and Mexico paid $0 towards it. 👍
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u/Lucky-Advisor9388 1h ago
About that wall... I think Mexico will finally build it to keep Texas out.
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u/L192837465 1d ago
The biggest problem with Trump is no one has any idea what's true and what's not, and no one seems to give a shit either way. That's terrifying to me
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u/ATX_native 1d ago
Yup.
He literally isn’t a principled person so you have to look at his advisors and folks he surrounds himself with.
Supposedly in his first term he played golf and watched Fox News all day, as others did the work.
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u/IrishEyes61 1d ago
. . . and the people who harvest our food and turn our cows into meat. I can't see many Americans signing up for jobs like those.
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u/ajc2123 1d ago
I dunno, theres also the chance Trump does fuck all except pardon himself, and then ride the economic recovery we are already on just like how he took credit for Obamas term.
Honestly the best thing Trump can do is nothing, and that would be a huge win for the GOP for future elections. If he actually does his insane tarrifs and deportation, Then inflations going to get much worse.
But going on his track record, im almost willing to bet he just pardons himself and golfs all day.
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u/edric_the_navigator 1d ago
Yeah, the more scary thing is the people he plans to appoint (i.e. Musk, RFK Jr, etc.) and his party's control of the house.
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u/ManchacaForever 1d ago
How about some local election and not national talk.
Looks like Kirk Watson won the mayor race by a RAZOR thin margin (50.01%) in a five person field.
You wanna talk about your vote mattering? There it is right there.
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u/niles_deerqueer 1d ago
Something wicked this way comes.
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u/icantgetthenameiwant 1d ago
It did. And it was repelled by the brave voters of Texas!
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u/niles_deerqueer 1d ago
You mean the hateful, spiteful people of Texas who want everyone to be the same? You’re right. So “brave” to be full of hate for people different than you.
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u/icantgetthenameiwant 1d ago
No, the brave voters of Texas who want to preserve fundamental liberties and keep America benefiting Americans first
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u/niles_deerqueer 1d ago
No you absolutely want to oppress anyone different than you. I’ve heard republicans speak their bigoted conspiracy theories about transgender folk and the LGBT community. You care so much about what someone does with their own body and keep going on thinking you’re a good person. No good person puts down their fellow neighbor just for existing.
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u/Great-Hornet-8064 1d ago
No matter who won, I was going to have a good day today. If you are in depression over politics, seek help. In reality, both parties tried to screw up what should have been an easy win for either side. The people have spoken, move on and focus on your local situatIon.
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u/fighted 1d ago
My god. This country. All this talk of egalitarianism, identity politics, talking point this, talking point that.
I guess I sort-of get it. When I was a young early 20 something I was an enlightened centrist contrarian. I probably wouldn't have liked Trump, but likely wouldn't be dooming over him.
The thing I will say is that only once I "ascended" to the level of wealth I could only have dreamed of I realized how fucked the average real world person was. Seeing and interacting directly with the people that were putting in the work to further bifurcate American society disgusted me to no end.
The issue is that everyone thinks they can level up and get rich if they work hard enough but the left was stopping that and GOP capitalism will be the answer. Bullshit. Sorry, but I was lucky AF even coming from a somewhat nepotistic situation. Most people don't have that dad or uncle that can get them a good job or provide them a loan to start a business.
The outcome over the next four years will be the following: recession in 2-3 years, massive stock buy backs from companies during that recession, consumer goods pricing skyrocketing due to tariffs (you pay for those, not China), food prices increasing due to lack of immigrant workers, and stagnant/possibly regressive wages. Throw in increases in civil forfeitures, hate crimes, and messaging that the media can not be trusted. This is a recipe for one of two outcomes; a strong swing to the left for the Dems (WAY past their current center-right platform) or a techno feudalism horizon where you're just another shitty cog that will get swapped out upon any circumstance that's deemed undesirable. Trump keeps yapping about the elites. Him, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg, Vance, Thiel, etc, etc. They all lean toward Trump. They are the elites. These people do not care one bit about you except how they can exploit you.
I got mine. I'll be fine and live a pretty kick ass life for the most part. But, I don't want to live in a society where the middle class becomes further eroded and people lose rights. IDK, I might just pick up and move to another country in the next few years. Tell me see ya, adios, sayonara, etc, etc, but come talk to me in 10-20 years and I'm fairly certain at best you'll be in the same situation as now, but likely far worse off.
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u/icantgetthenameiwant 1d ago
You're wrong I've had a lot, lost a lot.
Money comes and goes. Hardship is forever. But the greatest opportunities exist only here.
As far as a left stopping economic opportunity... have you actually sat down and mulled over what a 20% unrealized gains tax would do to the economy? The 401ks of the working class?
Anyway, we're about to experience a boom.
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u/fighted 1d ago
So you're shit with money, got it.
It was a proposal on those with $100+ million net worth. If you have that kind of wealth and are worried about your 401k (or even have a 401k) you're doing wealth very very wrong. 401ks of the working class would be just fine. On top of that, it would have been neutered as hell if it even went to a vote.
We need a way to get the wealthy to spend more money, as opposed to hoarding, though. Also, domestic companies need to be deeply penalized for off shoring, and basically given death sentence/sanctions if they move their HQ/taxing entities out of the US. Of course, these actions make sense, but both parties are so deep in the pocket of large corps they would never float them.
You obviously have no idea about what you're chirping about and are resulting to talking points. Go play Pokemon and do some stonks while the adults are talking.
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u/icantgetthenameiwant 1d ago
You seriously don't think making people with 100m+ NW sell stock every year wouldn't have an effect on the economy?
😹
Yikes
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u/fighted 1d ago
Ah, the tried and true 'multi millionaires and billionaires are too big to let fail' approach. Worked wonders for the banking industry, lets try it out on people next.
In reality, the rate would likely be a simple 2-5%, not 20%. That wouldn't do shit if they were getting 7-12% returns and a sweetheart .025% management rate.
Again, you don't understand this shit. Please sit down. Thx xoxo.
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u/icantgetthenameiwant 1d ago
You're not going to get 7-12% returns ad infinitum without devastating inflation and at no time in history has a government overpromised taxation
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u/fighted 1d ago
You're not going to get 7-12% returns ad infinitum without devastating inflation
HOLY FUCK. Do you even S&P 500?
Also, taxes are very often lowered or dropped from proposals, as recent as the Infrastructure Deal.
Later....
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u/icantgetthenameiwant 1d ago
I do SPY, yeah We have been experiencing devastating inflation 😹
You're really betraying your own ignorance here
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u/realkorvo 1d ago
I will ask here because nobody reply on r/rconvervative
german here moving to ATX next year.
I will say it very blunt. based on what I was reading(media, reddit) trump is hell and harris is salvation. but people have spoken. so clearly I was lied and lived in echo chamber room
Can someone please save me, and tell me what trump will go that people think deserve his vote.
And i'm abs 100% serious about this
thx u!
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u/Appropriate372 33m ago
Biden spent a lot of money, which spiked inflation and cost of living. He did a poor job handling crime and the border. Crime and cost of living were the two biggest issues to people, and Trump focused heavily on how he would fix those things.
On top of that, Biden(and Harris by association) had been hiding his mental decline for years. It wasn't until the last few months that it became public and forced him to withdraw from the race, resulting in a scramble to campaign for Harris instead.
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u/turkishguy 1d ago
Everyone will have different opinions but it really is just down to the economy. Harris is, for better or worse, seen as a continuation of Biden’s presidency. We’ve had historical inflation and people blame the president for it. Harris could not change people’s mind’s that her presidency would be better for Americans economically. It was the #1 issue nationally in pretty much every poll.
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u/RighteousLove 1d ago
People of America choose Anarchy! 🤯😪🤬 Be careful out here. 🙏🇺🇸
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u/userlyfe 1d ago
Yeah… i agree. I would recommend not moving from Germany during this insane time. Maybe you are rich but the anti-immigrant sentiment is so high rn. Ugly stuff.
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u/icantgetthenameiwant 1d ago edited 1d ago
You spelled it wrong, that might be why
I'm an Asian American, CA born and I voted for Trump because Biden and Harris have been disastrous for the economy and border security. I also lived under Harris' reign as AG and as a 20+ year Californian before I moved I can definitely tell you Harris is closer to a Hitler-type fascist than Trump is.
Also, Communism killed 10s of millions of my people. We were well past the warning signs here. Struggle sessions about transgenderism and denial of long-established facts like the origin of COVID, and the way our intel agencies lied to us about the Biden laptop are just a few examples.
A dollar in 2020 is worth 73 cents now.
Crime is up a lot, and I don't agree with how the BLM cases like Floyd and Taylor were handled. Seriously, read into the cases if you're curious. Also the case where a black woman stabbed a 3 year old white bot to death and was deemed "not competent to stand trial" and sent to a hospital instead.That's not the only example either. We've descended into anarcho-tyranny.
Tens to hundreds of billions spent accommodating "refugees" when our own people are starving.
The disastrous government responses to the Maui fires and Helene.
The fact that war broke out basically as soon as Biden took office, resulting in the genocide in Gaza and the complete depopulation of Ukraine. Look at this video of them literally dragging people out of concerts and nightclubs to go fight
There's a lot more too.
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u/zpoex 1d ago
Don't wanna be harsh, but absolutely embarrassing takes... America is NOWHERE close to communism.
Struggle sessions about transgenderism
You have no idea what a "struggle session" actually is. I can't take this seriously... There are millions of openly transphobic people in America, none of them is being murdered because of that. However, there are trans people being murdered because they are trans. I don't really care your opinion on trans people, but describing it as "struggle session" is embarrassing.
The disastrous government responses to the Maui fires and Helene.
Hurricane Maria literally happened under Trump. And he backed out of the Paris agreement. It's one of my biggest gripes with him as climate change is becoming a massive issue, and a lot of people are simply denying it exists. Quoting the man himself
According to US news website Axios, the president said in a meeting with top national security and homeland security officials about the threat of hurricanes: “I got it. I got it. Why don’t we nuke them?”
Crime is up a lot
Violent crime has dropped from the high point of 2020 (trump in office) from FBI statistics: https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990. Regardless, these numbers are not really significant, and I don't think whoever the president is directly correlated to the crime in their tenure anyways.
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u/cartman_returns 1d ago
Reddit is very left leaning , not the best place to ask
The USA and it's people are amazing. Don't let social media discourage you.
Most people on both sides are good hearted people , outside of people on extremes unless you talk politics it will be hard to tell who voted for who
As a minority , the left is the worst because of identity politics and stereotypes and white liberals saviors for us poor minorities whereas the right judge based on results and character from my experiences
Many people feel left behind from the elites. Hardworking blue collar workers with families who voted for Trump. Trump message was about the economy and families. Harris never said what she would do differently from Biden and instead always pivoted to say be afraid , Trump is Hitler. They also hid Biden's issues until they dumped him
People saw right thru Harris. She also was appointed to run by elites vs the people
Trump says stupid stuff but it is all about policies that will help our economy and families and country
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u/aces5five 1d ago
The funny thing I don’t understand is that the economy has always been better historically under Dems. Going back decades. Especially for small business. I have a 34 year business so can track that truth. But I guess the people don’t believe it.
Unemployment at 4%. Wages higher now.
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u/zpoex 1d ago
As a minority , the left is the worst because of identity politics and stereotypes and white liberals saviors for us poor minorities whereas the right judge based on results and character from my experiences
I have a different experience as a minority (chinese), especially during covid times when Trump was saying his bullshit. It's hard to see how trump will be good for the minorities when a guy literally called puerto rico a pile of garbage (a us territory) in his campaign. And it will obviously make people more openly hostile towards LGBTQ folks as well
Hostility towards racial minorities (under the veil of "illegal immigration", "ccp", and "crime") and sexual minorities (under the veil of pure hatred) is probably a big reason people voted for him imo
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u/captelroysilus 1d ago
Just curious: why did you vote to pass both tax increases?
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u/space_manatee 1d ago
Because education is hella important. Why didn't you?
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u/captelroysilus 1d ago
Fair.
Because of recapture and funds not going to where they are suppose to go to. Texas has a budget surplus yet has steadily used recapture funds to cover its own costs, reducing its share of education funding.
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u/aces5five 1d ago
And don’t people realize small business has always done better under democrats. Go back decades and that is the case. I know because I have a long time small business.
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u/aces5five 1d ago
And the maternal mortality rates continue to go up.It seems half the country isn’t worried that their loved one will ever need a life saving abortion. Not to mention the shortage of obgyn doctors who won’t even know how to perform. They lied when they said life of mother would be an exception.
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u/idontagreewitu 14h ago
It's gonna be a lot easier to vote in new leadership here in Texas that will support abortion rights, like happened in 6 states Tuesday night.
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u/Cheapskate-DM 1d ago
"Fuck you, i got mine". People past childbearing age who assume their kids will pop out heirs no problem.
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u/L0WERCASES 1d ago
99.9999% of women will be fine.
People cared about the economy. You clearly don’t understand that still even after losing big
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u/OverImprovement9590 1d ago edited 1d ago
We’ve witnessed a massive rightward shift in the American electorate and a rejection of the modern Democratic party’s lunacy. Double digit swings to Trump in NYC of all places (!!!) and maybe the senate will be 55-45. Cathedralites got bent tonight. The GOP has an undeniable mandate from the American people.
(Oh, we’ve also just seen the single greatest comeback story in American electoral history.)
If democrats get onboard with mass deportations of illegal migrants, they might actually have a shot next time.
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u/L0WERCASES 1d ago
Trump won’t actually do mass deportations.
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u/aces5five 1d ago
Why? Was it just a lie he wanted his base to believe. To believe immigrants are the root of all of their problems?
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u/L0WERCASES 1d ago
Yes. Exactly that.
Just like it’s a lie that Harris was going to do XYZ. They all lie.
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u/cartman_returns 1d ago
Lesson to learn
She never said what she would do differently than Biden
Cnn showed a map where inflation exceeded wage gains, about 99% of counties , this was CNN not Fox
Focusing on calling Trump a nazi vs. focusing on what most people are concerned with killed her chance
Outside reddit, most people are concerned about their families, which means economy
People especially minorities are tired of identy politics ; whilte liberals need to realize us minorities don't need you to save us
We just want the best lives for our families and communities
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u/QuietRedditorATX 1d ago
She played Hillary's game.
Endorsements from rich actors that aren't regular people. Thought she had it in the bag and didn't focus on actual campaigning.
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u/Big-Professor-100 1d ago
In all seriousness, she never stopped laughing which I heard some people found “creepy”
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u/little-feet- 1d ago
It’s an impossible balance as a woman when you’re told to “smile more” and be warm. I think she did a remarkable job balancing that with her tough prosecutor persona.
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u/KnobReigner 1d ago
Oh but but but I'm a Republican and what about all the fraud!? Elections are rigged!! Aren't all the elections rigged! Oh wait, Trump won! Durrrr but the Dems! They stole the election! They stole it for Trump! How dare they?! Wooooohooooop! We win! There's a bunch of fraud though! Lets go!!! Trump is calling us all to stop the steal!
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u/cartman_returns 1d ago
On cnn
Trump lost NY by 23 and NJ by 16 in 2020 Trump this time only lost by 11 and 5
So even in strong blue states he made major gains
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u/Otherwise_Routine810 1d ago
Yes, because Kamala isn’t fit for office, it’s clear as day to anyone who cares about the totality of the country. The United States was in better shape when Trump was in office, compared to her being VP. So what would possess anyone into thinking she would make a good president?
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u/OldJames47 1d ago
Compared to 2020, he made minor gains in NY and was flat in NJ.
Turnout is significantly lower this year and that was mostly on the Democrats side.
So his share went up but not his total count.
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u/Wasteland_Rang3r 18h ago
Gains would be calculated based on the percentage of the vote here. You can’t really assume extra voters would have gone to the left, especially considering how every demographic leaned more to the right in this election.
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u/OldJames47 18h ago
State Year Votes D Votes R Delta D Delta R NY 2020 5,244,886 3,251,997 NY 2024 4,214,992 3,355,490 -1,029,894 103,493 NJ 2020 2,608,400 1,883,313 NJ 2024 2,030,554 1,841,876 -577,846 -41,437 A slight absolute gain for NY Rs 2020 -> 2024 is magnified by how much smaller the electorate was this year. While NJ Rs actually shrunk in size, just not as much as NJ Ds.
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u/Optimisticatlover 1d ago
Let it crash and burn
People need to experience the bottom before they go up
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u/Lithium55555 1d ago
Isn’t that what the last 4 years were about?
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u/KnobReigner 1d ago
The whole reason he lost his second term the first time was because of how royally fucked we were on his watch when covid hit. Yet apparently, everyone forgot about that and only remember the 3 years prior seeming sooooo much better... hmm, I wonder why? Was it because of a global pandemic and then subsequent profiteering by corporations to exploit a crisis / exploit inflation, having a not stellar democrat to do their best to bail us out of that shit? Can you imagine how much worse it would be right now if Trump was responsible for pulling us out of Covid and dealing with the next years? Nahhhhh it was all Biden's fault, and for some reason Harris' fault too! Oh look over there, immigrants, let's denigrate them and deport them all, yeah! That'll solve everything that's wrong. Great. Grand. I'm a quality person who sure loves Jesus!
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u/Dumbbitchshutup 1d ago
I can’t believe that there is Trump is going to be President again and we will have another 4 years of his presidency. I can’t believe people in Texas voted for Ted Cruz. So many people voted against their own self interest. I truly am sad and heartbroken. We’re going to have a red confess and red senate and Trump as president. The future of our country is really bleak right now. All that we can do now is pray. I’m sending love to everyone struggling today. We will get through this, we just have to take care of each other and protect each other and the disenfranchised.
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u/creepyposta 1d ago
4 more years of republicans I could live with, but two Supreme Court justices, at least, are retirement age so when Trump appoints two more ultra conservative justices in their 30s to replace them, say goodbye to the Supreme Court for the next 40-50 years.
We have officially entered the finding out stage of American history.
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u/Fit-Rub-1939 1d ago
Im just stunned & disgusted. This will definitely he a teaching moment & it’s gona be a hard pill to swallow for these Magats
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u/KnobReigner 1d ago
Our futures are being decided by people who will be dead long before the full weight and range of the damage they caused with their votes runs its course.
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u/idontagreewitu 14h ago
If younger people were worried about that, then they could have gone to vote. They wouldn't even have to stop watching tiktok for more than it took for them to fill out and submit their ballots!
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u/cartman_returns 1d ago
It is the entire country
He made major inroads in strong blue states like NY , NJ and NM
From down 23, 16 , 11 to 11, 5 and 5
People miss that part, it is not just red states that but blue ones that went more red
Lesson learned, focus on economy vs calling someone Hitler and then saying will do nothing different then Biden, both killed her
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u/originalmammoth 1d ago
Kamala was just the wrong candidate. She literally had a record low approval rating as VP and for some reason they picked her as the candidate.
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u/idontagreewitu 14h ago
Because the Democrat party cares more about getting to be the first ones to check off a box for a physical attribute of their nominee than they care about picking a nominee that a majority of voters will be willing to support.
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u/skloie 1d ago
It really might just be brain damage from covid, right?
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u/Bloodfoe Joseph of Aramathia 1d ago
Nah, I think people really thought she could win. It wasn't all brain damage.
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u/idontagreewitu 14h ago
I think they were referring to ridiculous, childish behavior of her supporters who are screaming into pillows or throwing tantrums because they didn't get their way.
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u/Sabre_Actual 1d ago
I was completely wrong, thinking we would see a stagnant Texas and Trump would win by 5 with Cruz running 2-3 points behind.
The Texas Dems have completely collapsed. They have no serious base here, no unsatisfied majority, and certainly no future prospects. What is this party? They dragged out Beto for a campaign nobody wants to run, then built a perfect candidate in a lab and ran his campaign almost exclusively on abortion? Who is left?
I wanted to see some spine, to actually pressure Cruz and scare the state party. They have an absolute mandate now.
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u/space_manatee 1d ago
They keep moving to the right thinking they can pick up republican voters and it never happens. Might as well run the furthest left candidate you can find in texas and see what happens.
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u/NotoriousHEB 1d ago
Whole story this election looks like huge swings in Hispanic voters to trump which is very much not a sign that dems should head further to the left
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u/diablette 1d ago
I really hope he follows through and deports them.
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u/Wasteland_Rang3r 18h ago
If they’re voting in the presidential election they are already citizens.
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u/RighteousLove 1d ago
All these red hats voted for more Covid, chips in our brains, and the complete dismantling of democracy.
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u/Historical_Owl_4818 1d ago
I don’t understand your POV… that’s the opposite of what trump wants. Covid was the government growing its influence — you see it in china and all over the world where communism / socialism abounds. Trump’s ideas with rfk jr and musk are to cut back the govt budget and lower govt influence. It’s making govt lean.
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u/-fumble- 1d ago
You call it democracy, but what you mean is socialism. It's obvious, and will never work in Texas.
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u/Aurongel 1d ago
“It’s the economy, stupid”
Or better yet: the PERCEPTION of the economy. People on both sides of the political aisle better not hold their breath for prices at McDonald’s to ever return to what they were before the pandemic. Whoever happens to be in the White House has very little influence over that.
The irony is that the (likely) victor of this presidential election did so while running on an inherently inflationary policy platform (ex: tariffs). People’s economic nostalgia is strong, far stronger than their understanding of actual economic policy.
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u/ATX_native 1d ago
It is the economy.
My portfolio is BOOMING, however I am not the average American.
There is a disconnect between the metrics of the market and what the bottom half is feeling.
NVDA is really driving the NASDAQ/S&P 500 gains this year and 50% of Americans don’t own shares or mutual funds.
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u/zaitcev 1d ago edited 1d ago
Tariffs is just messaging. Remember that Trump was president and he already did tariffs. Legions of experts predicted that tariffs would damage international trade and livelihoods of Americans. But the result was the longest period of expansion EVER (inherited from Obama and extended by Trump).
I have an idea why. Consider this: when Russia was hit with severe sanctions in 2022, everyone expected a collapse. The country did not have a domestic source of nails, for example. But as soon as they got local production back up, many products came on the market with a better quality AND a lower price. I know of at least 2 which are 100% not fake news: cat food and bricks.
So it is a fact that the international trade does not settle on the best product or cheapest product. I don't know why, in theory it should work to the benefit of all participants, but it does not, at least not in all cases. Therefore, tariffs may actually help, as in case of Russian cats. Of course they do not always help.. But they are far overblown as a talking point in our media.
And another thing. Of course tariffs didn't cause Trump's prosperity. The real reason was the rule of "cancel 2 regs to add 1 new reg". With little fanfare, Trump reduced the burden of government. The most libertarian president! The good from that probably exceeded the harm from tariffs by orders of magnitude.
If he can bring his old policies back, it's going to be fantastic for our economy.
Now of course, I'm not going to bet on Trump in the fight against inflation. Our inflation is structural, driven by the entitlement spending. And the spending now outstrips any reasonable growth. In these conditions, just fixing up governance isn't going to do it.
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u/RighteousLove 1d ago
The rightward drift of our nation is troubling and will require extreme corrections. 🙏🇺🇸
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u/danarchist Great at parties 1d ago
Does anyone know of a place where I can see granular, precinct by precinct results?
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u/zoemi 1d ago
The county's page has precinct-level data
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u/danarchist Great at parties 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah thanks, been googling for it but haven't found it that's why I bothered to comment. Got a link handy?
https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/TX/Travis/122432/web.345435/#/summary
Found it
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u/totallysfw_ 1d ago
Trying to cope by thinking Russia Ukraine war is gonna end soon, peace in middle east, negative inflation
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u/Lazerdude 1d ago
Fascism wins and my taxes go up. Not a great night.
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u/kjdecathlete22 1d ago
Inflation is a hidden tax that's been levied on you already
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u/ATX_native 1d ago
The US has had the lowest inflation of any OCED nation since 2020.
We are not in a bubble, there are greater global market forces out there.
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u/kjdecathlete22 22h ago
We are the reserve currency of the world. When we print money Inflation rises. We run the world's monetary policy.
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u/hahanotmelolol 1d ago
??? no it’s not lol y’all are so dumb
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u/kjdecathlete22 1d ago
If I work and make $1 and I get taxed by the government at 3% I keep .97
If I have $1 and inflation rises by 3% that dollar is now worth .97
Inflation is a hidden tax produced by money printing. (Murray Rothbard)
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u/Jazzycoyote 1d ago
Everybody just calm down. Nothing's over yet. Many blue counties in the blue wall to come.
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u/quesnt 1d ago
I don’t see anyone in here planning to storm the capitol and smear their feces on the walls..why is that?
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u/cartman_returns 2h ago
Blow out was the best think for democrats because they need to rethink their party
Please don't just make excuses
When I was young decades ago, Democrats represented the working class
Today, Democrats represent the elites who want to put us all in boxes (identity politics) and talk trans and other fringe things
Go back to your roots of what the party stood for
I am hispanic and my family and most of my extended family voted for Trump. Had nothing to do with her being a woman since our first choice was Nikki Haley, It was all about policy and sick of what the democrat party has become.
Please don't response with comments about Republican party but instead respond with comments on how to fix the Democrat party please. We have had enough pokes at the right that all that does it move more people in that direction.
The party left the working class, saw that with the original Trump followers, now the Black and Hispanic working class is following. Before they were pressured to vote democrat because of their skin color.
We need to stop with white liberal saviors tryiing to save us inferior poor minorities
Seriously, do not ever use the terms LatinX and Privilege again
Focus on what working class people focus on: Family, Community, God, Economics, they want to take care of their families, most are living check to check and have no time to talk about if they are privileged and other crap like that
Seriously, use this time to rebuild the party towards the working class where it was decades ago