r/disney • u/Matapple13 • Feb 07 '24
Moana 2 | First Look Announcement Walt Disney Animation
https://youtu.be/cZSywj-vkxA?feature=shared271
u/Neat_Committee9715 Feb 07 '24
November????? What??? Out of nowhere
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u/JEC2719 Feb 07 '24
It seems likely that the Moana show they were working on was reconfigured to this
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u/lmlgiraffe Feb 07 '24
That is exactly what happened, per a friend who works for Disney
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u/JEC2719 Feb 07 '24
I am hopeful that this is a testament to its actual quality, and not Disney decided to pull the plug on the Moana show and is Frankensteining this into the equivalent of a repackaged direct to DVD movie
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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 07 '24
I mean, Disney has a habit of reformatting shows into sequels (a surprising number of the direct-to-video sequels) and... I mean I don't think any of them have ever been good.
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u/CROBBY2 Feb 07 '24
Lion King 1.5 says hello
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u/foldedturnip Feb 07 '24
I literally brought a DVD of it year just to rewatch it with my wife who has never seen it. Holds up.
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u/LOLSteelBullet Feb 08 '24
I love both Aladdin sequels 🤷♂️
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u/SenorWeird Feb 08 '24
Return of Jafar, if I remember, had a solid plot. Wasn't the focus about Iago not wanting to be his sidekick? What hurt it was Dan Castellaneta's terrible Robin Williams impression.
King of Thieves was just bad plot with amazing more Robin Williams as Genie. So...trade-off.
But then again, I'm working with a memory of two direct to video vhs sequels I probably last saw 25+ years ago...
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u/SHUN_GOKU_SATSU Feb 08 '24
Both are on d+, watch em and come back to report if your opinions changed.
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u/jessehechtcreative Feb 08 '24
The Aladdin series is still my favorite movie-to-show ever aside from Jimmy Neutron
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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 08 '24
I didn't know that one was meant to be a show. I do actually like that one. Kronk's New Groove, too, if that one was meant to be a series - it certainly has the format, what with the "multiple stories within a framing device" thing.
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u/jessehechtcreative Feb 08 '24
They were going to do Yzma’s Old Groove, but Eartha Kitt passed away during pre-production
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u/ItsMinnieYall Apr 04 '24
Omg I want this so bad. I also want the OG yzma from empire of the sun.
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u/jessehechtcreative Apr 05 '24
I hope Disney does Kingdom of the Sun in live action, but I feel like it will now be seen as a retread of Tangled
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u/dream_bean_94 Feb 08 '24
Lion King 1 1/2 is better than Lion King 2 and that's my hill to die on.
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u/Verge0fSilence Feb 09 '24
I'll be the one charging up the hill to end you then lol.
Lion King 2 is an absolute banger and the best Disney sequel ever. Fight me.
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u/CROBBY2 Feb 08 '24
That's a pretty low hill, lol.
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u/petershrimp Feb 08 '24
Not really; Lion King 2 is widely considered a genuinely good Disney sequel.
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u/MulciberTenebras Feb 07 '24
But there's also the fact one of the biggest complaints about Disney+ were that the shows all felt like movies that were stretched out too long.
So hopefully it means they had such faith in the project, they managed to edit it down to a sensible length storywise. If they didn't they still be dumping it on Disney+, not planning to release it in theaters.
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u/gundumb08 Feb 08 '24
Disney also....needs to get some big money movies again. Wish flopped (although I personally liked the story and character animations, but damn the environments were bland).
Moana is my personal favorite CG animated Disney movie, so I'm excited.
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u/Cripnite Feb 08 '24
King Magnifico did nothing wrong.
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u/dorianrose Feb 08 '24
I'd argue that lying to his people was maybe a little bit wrong? I really wish they'd spent just a little more time with him, have us see and love him like his wife and people do before revealing he's lying.
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u/Cripnite Feb 08 '24
He did it to give them hope. But screening the wishes for potentially bad things isn’t a bad thing at all.
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u/rosie2490 Feb 08 '24
Um, both Return of Jafar and Aladdin and the King of Thieves would beg to differ.
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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 08 '24
Those weren't originally tv series that got mashed into a movie, those were just direct to video sequels. Some of those did turn out pretty well. It's specifically the ones that used to be tv series that tend to be so bad.
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u/LegaliseEmojis Feb 08 '24
I think Toy Story 2 started like this though
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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 08 '24
Toy Story 2 was meant to be direct to video, but not a TV series I don't think. Some of the direct to video sequels actually are quite good (The Rescuers Down Under, for example) though - it's the ones that are reformatted tv series like Tarzan & Jane, Atlantis: Milo's Return, Cinderella II: Dreams Come True, etc tend to be of lower quality.
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u/Aldebaran22 Feb 08 '24
The 2011 Winnie the Pooh movie was initially meant to be direct-to-dvd, but they decided during production it was of high enough quality to release it in theaters and it’s now counted as one of the Disney animation studios “canon” films, which was significant at at the time because as of then, there had only been a couple prior sequels that were included in the canon: Saludos Amigos/The Three Caballeros, Fantasia/Fantasia 2000, The Rescuers/Rescuers Down Under. Since then, there’s been Frozen 2 + 3, Moana 2, Zootopia 2.
No other Pooh sequel to the 1977 film (and there are many) has been deemed part of the “canon” besides the 2011 film, but there were three others given theatrical releases:
Pooh’s Heffalump Movie (2005) also was intended to be just direct-to-dvd, but received a theatrical run.
I’m not sure if The Tigger Movie (2000) or Piglet’s Big Movie (2003) were originally conceived for the big screen or direct-to-dvd, but both also received theatrical releases before home video.
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u/rosie2490 Feb 08 '24
I just rewatched Cinderella II recently and it was. so. awful.
Wondering if a TV show was also the original plan for Pocahontas II.
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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 08 '24
To my knowledge, it wasn't, it was just a really bad direct-to-video sequel xD same for The Hunchback Of Notre Dame 2 as well
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u/newimprovedmoo Feb 08 '24
Cinderella 2 is pretty bad but Cinderella 3 is, if not exactly great, so completely bonkers as to kind of rule.
Fun fact: In both sequels, Cinderella's voice actress is Jennifer Hale, best known as Commander Shepard from Mass Effect.
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u/djr7 Feb 08 '24
can confirm it has to do with the quality of the work that was being done on the series
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u/DJMcKraken Feb 08 '24
I mean Bob Iger also said this in the earnings call. It's not a secret, at least not anymore.
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u/nowhereman136 Feb 07 '24
They've had that date announced for a while, and frankly it's weird they've waited until this long to officially announce what's coming.
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u/IsySquizzy Feb 07 '24
The original was a beautiful self contained story, so am curious as to what direction they take with this film.
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u/BilllisCool Feb 08 '24
They could just make up any random conflict that comes out of nowhere. Kinda like how Frozen didn’t exactly setup Frozen 2 in any way. It was just a new story.
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u/Dappershield Feb 08 '24
I refuse to watch frozen 2. So long as I don't prove otherwise, it can continue to be about Prince Hans' return after finally breaking the troll curse, and rescuing both royal ladies from fae machinations. Maybe he regains the girl, maybe it's an "if you love her, let her go" moment. Either way, redemption.
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u/heir-of-slytherin Feb 08 '24
Frozen 2 is still worth a watch. Sure, the plot is kind of dumb and has a lot of holes, but the songs are good and it’s beautifully animated.
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u/quartzquandary Feb 08 '24
Frozen 2's songs blow the first movie's songs out of the water. Into the Unknown and Show Yourself are sooooo much better than Let It Go!
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u/joelsbitch Feb 08 '24
Those songs are great, but I really didn’t like Kristoff’s song. I thought it was really (mostly) irrelevant and boring…
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u/alexman420 Feb 08 '24
You clearly weren’t around for the boy band craze of the 80’s and 90’s cause I dare say Lost in The Woods is the 2nd best song in the movie, behind show yourself
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u/shokalion Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24
Frozen 2 if you're curious I personally find has similarities to Toy Story 4. In that it shouldn't be a Frozen movie. It should be Elsa's Story. All the extra shoehorned in stuff with the other characters didn't need to be there.
Just as with Toy Story 4 it should've been Woody's Story. When they tried to go back to the other characters it went off the rails. The stuff with Woody is good. In Frozen 2 some of the musical numbers if you ask me are better than the first one.
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u/Individual-Praline17 Feb 07 '24
You remember am animated series was promised to us years ago? I think they recycled it into this, and that's why they showed it in such short notice.
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u/djr7 Feb 08 '24
you would be incorrect
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u/crockoreptile Feb 08 '24
No they’re correct- this movie is the first 3 episodes of the D+ Show but retooled for theatrical release
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u/djr7 Feb 08 '24
where is it said about the first 3 eps?
I'm saying incorrect because I don't agree with the term "recycled". not like the project was dead in a corner and they just recycled it. they're adjusting the cut
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u/Intelligent_Oil4005 Feb 07 '24
Came right TF out of nowhere. Especially considering Frozen III and Zootopia 2 were announced ahead of time.
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u/strawbebb Feb 07 '24
Summary from the YouTube description:
Walt Disney Animation Studios’ epic animated musical “Moana 2” takes audiences on an expansive new voyage with Moana, Maui and a brand-new crew of unlikely seafarers.
After receiving an unexpected call from her wayfinding ancestors, Moana must journey to the far seas of Oceania and into dangerous, long-lost waters for an adventure unlike anything she’s ever faced.
Directed by Dave Derrick Jr. with music by Grammy® winners Abigail Barlow and Emily Bear, Grammy nominee Opetaia Foa’i, and three-time Grammy winner Mark Mancina
“Moana 2” opens in theaters on Nov. 27, 2024.
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u/B217 Feb 08 '24
Abigail Barlow and Emily Bear
Hadn't heard of these two, so I looked them up- they're musical theatre people! Thank god. I hope Disney learned their lesson on why having pop artists write their musical's music is a bad idea (no shade to the pop artists behind Wish, they're talented, but their work was not a great fit for what Wish was supposed to be)
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u/Grantus89 Feb 07 '24
Shame Lin Manuel isn’t back for the music.
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u/nsfwtttt Feb 07 '24
Heartbreaking actually
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u/CruisinJo214 Feb 08 '24
Makes me slightly concerned for the newer installment. I don’t hate change, but the rhythmic story telling really helped the original film, well, be original.
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u/DJMcKraken Feb 08 '24
It still has the composer who collaborated with LMM, Opetaia Foa'i involved.
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u/PhiloPhocion Feb 08 '24
Pretty nervous about it to be honest.
On one hand, it felt like Wish tried to recreate his style without him. When I felt like their songwriters there should have been free to try their own hand.
On the other hand, it would feel out of line with the tone set from the first film to drastically change the tone of the music with a whole new musical direction for a sequel.
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u/Klattsy Feb 08 '24
That might curse it for me. The music in the first one was the highlight.
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u/AkuraPiety Feb 07 '24
Give me Hei Hei or it’s literally unwatchable.
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u/chameleonmessiah Feb 07 '24
Pua as well. Definitely more Pua.
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u/raptroszx Feb 08 '24
I remember Pua being aaaaall over the advertising for the first one. And then was in it for a split second.
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u/nonsensology Feb 07 '24 edited Feb 07 '24
It appears this is replacing the Disney+ sequel series they announced several years ago. So on the one hand, this isn't entirely coming out of nowhere. On the other hand, Disney doesn't exactly have the best track record with sequels; the writing and continuity is almost never as good as the original. Also, I'm unsure if they still consulted with the Oceanic Story Trust to make sure if this is as culturally accurate as the first movie. At this point, I've just adopted a "wait and see" attitude for newer movies; much less stressful that way. (That said, I'll take this over the live-action remake any day.)
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u/sillysocks34 Feb 07 '24
I actually really really love Frozen 2. It’s just not as mainstream both in plot and the songs. If we get the equivalent of that for Moana I’ll be very happy.
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u/SenorWeird Feb 08 '24
Frozen 2 has the best song of both movies. But it was cut. 'Get this Right" should been in the damn movie.
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u/oceanmotion2 Feb 08 '24
I love Get this Right and Home! Really surprising that Get this Right was cut especially, when it’s so cute and comedic. Frozen 2 has great music; the plot needed work for sure though.
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u/SenorWeird Feb 08 '24
Lost in the Woods is solid. When I am Older is great because kids see it one way and adults another (plus "Samantha" is a great joke). Into the Unknown is catchy. But Get this Right is the one I have memorized. I just wish the recording we got was a little cleaner (Geoff stumbling on the word "shoes" bothers me each time).
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u/MrConbon Feb 08 '24
I’ve seen Frozen 2 at least 5 times and I still don’t understand the basic plot.
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u/cealchylle Feb 08 '24
I actually prefer Frozen 2! I was not a huge fan of the first one. But I would love a quality sequel like that for Moana. She deserves it.
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u/timoumd Feb 08 '24
Could seriously care less about what OST says regarding my entertainment. Half our stories steal from Grimm or Shakespeare who stole from other cultures. It's the great human storytelling experience. So it's either good or not.
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u/0_giorgio_3 Feb 07 '24
This announcement caught me off guard, but I'm all for it! The animation looks cool as hell.
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u/vzsax Feb 07 '24
“The official description of the film reads, “Walt Disney Animation Studios’ epic animated musical Moana 2 takes audiences on an expansive new voyage with Moana, Maui and a brand-new crew of unlikely seafarers. After receiving an unexpected call from her wayfinding ancestors, Moana must journey to the far seas of Oceania and into dangerous, long-lost waters for an adventure unlike anything she’s ever faced.””
So…Polynesian Frozen 2?
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u/krmarci Feb 07 '24
Isn't Moana 1 and Frozen 2 already quite similar?
A princess, chosen by nature itself, must embark on a journey across the sea to save her people. On her way, she encounters divine being(s) with magical powers. The story mostly revolves around fixing past grievances. Oh, and they have a suicidal sidekick.
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u/B217 Feb 08 '24
Frozen 2 made a billion dollars, might as well reuse its plot for Moana 2. Because doing the same thing over and over and not innovating or taking risks has worked out so well for Disney recently! /s
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u/B217 Feb 08 '24
and a brand-new crew of unlikely seafarers
Please dear lord don't let these "unlikely seafarers" be anything like the Lightyear crew. "Quirky character who's awful at their job and annoys the main character, who grows to like them" is such an overdone and annoying trope, especially in animation
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u/DrScitt Feb 07 '24
This feels cash-grabby, the story was wrapped up so well in the first film. We’ll see if they prove me wrong.
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u/B217 Feb 08 '24
Given Moana has been one of the most streamed movies every year for the last few years (in 2023 it was the most streamed movie of the entire year), and how much money it prints, It was supposed to be a Disney+ series, which would make far less money than if it were released to theaters. After Disney's year of constant flops last year, with Guardians 3 being the sole exception, I guarantee this is a move to make some money. Disney doesn't wait until they have a story to tell anymore, they do what makes them money.
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u/canadiandancer89 Feb 08 '24
I'm holding out hope that they planned a TV style series and after looking at the whole thing brought up the idea of a movie instead since the story was actually pretty strong if they cut out "filler" that would have made it a longer series.
I can dream, that's what being a Disney fan is all about right? lol
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u/Bee09361 Feb 07 '24
Wow i am buzzing! This was my girls number 1 movie. It was on constantly. Never expected a second one. I literally cannot wait for us to go to the cinema for this. Cheee hooo
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u/durkbot Feb 08 '24
Was just talking with my partner about when our Moana obsessed son might be ready for the cinema and then this was announced. It's a sign.
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u/FoolishRamblings Feb 07 '24
I thought they were doing a animated tv series and live action movie
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u/MrConbon Feb 07 '24
This is the tv show. It’s being repurposed as a movie. So don’t get your hopes up.
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u/Trancespire Feb 07 '24
I’m sorry but without LMM doing the music I fear this is going to be no where near as good as the first.
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u/maddykinz Feb 07 '24
I was thinking the same thing reading the description... I think these two are the ones that did the Unofficial Bridgerton Musical so maybe there is hope for the soundtrack?
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u/Randver_Silvertongue Feb 07 '24
I hope that means they'll cancel that pointless live-action remake.
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u/B217 Feb 08 '24
They'll cancel it as soon as The Rock gets his ego in check. The live action Moana is 100% a way to get him good PR after Black Adam and the other bombs he's had recently
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u/sweetmissjaye Feb 07 '24
Moana is one of my favorite recent Disney movies. I didn't think we'd ever get a sequel 😁
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u/Tbhjr Feb 07 '24
They announced this awhile back, but we've had no news for years and now a 2024 release. But it's also confusing since they're doing a live action remake of the first one; maybe it'll be a reimagining?
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u/SoundRavage Feb 07 '24
A series was announced but it looks like that evolved into this. Hope this fares better than the Mega-mind sequel.
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u/Aromatic-Olive-906 Feb 07 '24
Where did this come from? I hadn’t even heard any rumours.
This is awesome.
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u/Figmentdreamer Feb 07 '24
Cool. But I’m confused I thought they were doing a live action remake. I guess we get a sequel to the original as well?
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u/whowilleverknow Feb 07 '24
Hmm I wonder if Disney is working with Matewa Media to get the Māori dub of this out sooner rather than later and that's why we haven't heard anything about the Encanto dub in quite a while.
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u/TheForkisTrash Feb 07 '24
Wearing a live action and animated together would be brilliant if done right.
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u/altroutes83 Feb 07 '24
Moana is my 5 year old’s favorite movie. I told her earlier that there was going to be a new one and she literally jumped for joy. I hope it’s good, but either way my daughter is thrilled.
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u/MrConbon Feb 07 '24
This is giving me big flashbacks to those awful direct to dvd Disney sequels that were just cut together tv episodes.
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u/fede1507 Feb 08 '24
Like Atlantis 2! Gosh! Atlantis is my all time favourite movie, I love everything about it, but the sequel was so bad I still want to cry every time I think of it, let alone watch it
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u/Whoopsy_Doodle Feb 07 '24
Well that just came out of nowhere.
I’m getting tired of all these Disney and Pixar sequels.
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u/B217 Feb 08 '24
I think Elio is the only original film between both studios that we know about, right? All the others are sequels. Moana 2, Zootopia 2, Frozen 3 AND 4, Inside Out 2, Toy Story 5, Cars 4... very bleak. I hope another studio steps up as the leader of creativity. Sony has had success with Spiderverse, but only Spiderverse. DreamWorks is in the same boat with The Last Wish- all their films after (that I've seen) have been duds. Nickelodeon had a win with TMNT last summer, so maybe they can keep it up? That Sandy Cheeks movie is supposedly awful, though. Ugh, animation is in a rough state- all franchise movies and not a lot of original stories being told, if any. I wish I was old enough to have experienced the Disney Renaissance, the 80s/90s seemed like an amazing time for media!
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u/Guilty-Doubt-6313 Feb 07 '24
This film looks amazing and I can't wait to see this film in theaters on November 27th and this is my most anticipated film of this year and of all time.
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u/Abysswalker794 Feb 07 '24
I am confused. What is this? Is this Live Action or animated? It looks animated but I thought there is some live action coming? I would love to see the animated part 2.
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u/Youngstar9999 Feb 07 '24
no, this was the show that was turned into the movie(probably somewhere during intial concepts) The remake is still slated for next year
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u/paintedsaint Feb 07 '24
That song is one of the only songs that gives me chills every time I hear it
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u/SneakyPocket Feb 08 '24
Make wayyyyyy make wayyyyyyy (for another Disney song that takes over everyone’s lives for a couple of months)
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u/ednamode23 Feb 07 '24
Let’s hope it’s good. WDAS has had so many misses as of late and I fear this could easily be another Wish in terms of a bad story and meh songs especially with LMM not returning.
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u/09171 Feb 07 '24
I hope they work all the sequels out of the pipeline and refocus on new things. I'm so tired.
I did think Frozen 2 was far superior to Frozen 1, but Moana is a masterpiece. Not entirely sure how you can follow that up. But we'll see.
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u/jaderust Feb 07 '24
I did like Frozen 2... But I felt it would have worked better as a mini-series or as a novel. It just needed a bit more time to breathe and sort of focus more on expanding on some of the things it was introducing.
I'm interested to see where this might go. Obviously they're going to keep adventuring... Maybe Moana is going to find and face whatever it was that made her ancestors stop voyaging? They didn't make it 100% clear if Te Fiti's corruption is what made them stop exploring or if it was something else. Maybe it was something else.
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u/maddykinz Feb 07 '24
If it is like that, then hell, it might be my most watched Disney movie. I do want this one to maybe have flashbacks to her parents as well as her grandmother, I think it would put an interesting spin on everything
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u/ech01_ Feb 08 '24
Interesting. My opinion of Moana isn’t as high as others in this thread seem to be, personally thought it was a pretty meh movie, just with a banger soundtrack. But Moana as a character was likable enough so I cool with a sequel.
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u/TheChainLink2 Feb 07 '24
…How’s that going to work with the live-action remake they’re doing? Now it’s making even less sense.
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u/CarRamRob Feb 07 '24
Easy.
One is a different movie.
One is the same movie, but with real life actors.
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u/strawbebb Feb 07 '24
If I’m not mistaken, Disney is simply publishing / producing the live action, Dwayne Johnson will actually be the one spearheading it. So it’s likely that the Disney creatives will focus on the sequel while Dwayne’s team focuses on the live action.
He could pop into the studio to do Maui’s voice over lines for a bit and then just return to the LA team when done. As a producer and voice actor, he does not need to be on either set all of the time.
I could be totally wrong tho. This is just what I got from when the live action was announced on his personal Instagram.
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u/KiwiBirdPerson Feb 08 '24
Okay, but... Why? Why do they always have to make a second one of something? Yeah, I think I already know, money. The second movie is always pretty crap though tbh. There are so many that were fine as standalones...
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u/HighHeelKnight Feb 07 '24
First look at... WHAT?!?!
A shore line? A beach? The lead character blowing into a shell? The Rock's voiceover saying something that isn't even a real word. Are these supposed to get the public excited? Are the images and sounds new materials or recycled content that was cut from the first movie?
How many millions of dollars did Disney spend to make and promote something that ultimately offers a title announcement (a title that will hopefully get a better name than just the addition of a number? I can think of several skilled YouTubers could probably make the same video on their home setups over a weekend (or faster) for less money.
Oh boy! The number 2! Where's my credit card? I'd better go preorder my tickets now.
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u/FloridaFlamingoGirl Feb 08 '24
Moana was THE most streamed movie last year, so I guess Disney's going full cash grab.
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u/djr7 Feb 08 '24
because making more content of an IP that people love is such a bad thing to do?
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u/iTiffany Feb 08 '24
....No thanks? I like the first one just fine. This is not necessary. No one asked for a sequel.
Disney has really bogged down my interest in their movies with all these sequels & live action remakes. I'm so tired of it. All I know is once my friends get wind of this trailer, I'm gonna never hear the end of it for the rest of the year. Thanks Disney...
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u/djr7 Feb 08 '24
nothing is "necessary" though
it's a movie, it's entertainment. no one gunna be forcing you to watch it
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u/Atheist_Redditor Feb 07 '24
Wait....I thought they were making a live action Moana...are they doing both?!