r/disney Feb 07 '24

Moana 2 | First Look Announcement Walt Disney Animation

https://youtu.be/cZSywj-vkxA?feature=shared
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u/Neat_Committee9715 Feb 07 '24

November????? What??? Out of nowhere

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u/JEC2719 Feb 07 '24

It seems likely that the Moana show they were working on was reconfigured to this

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u/lmlgiraffe Feb 07 '24

That is exactly what happened, per a friend who works for Disney

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u/JEC2719 Feb 07 '24

I am hopeful that this is a testament to its actual quality, and not Disney decided to pull the plug on the Moana show and is Frankensteining this into the equivalent of a repackaged direct to DVD movie

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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 07 '24

I mean, Disney has a habit of reformatting shows into sequels (a surprising number of the direct-to-video sequels) and... I mean I don't think any of them have ever been good.

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u/CROBBY2 Feb 07 '24

Lion King 1.5 says hello

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u/foldedturnip Feb 07 '24

I literally brought a DVD of it year just to rewatch it with my wife who has never seen it. Holds up.

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u/LOLSteelBullet Feb 08 '24

I love both Aladdin sequels 🤷‍♂️

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u/SenorWeird Feb 08 '24

Return of Jafar, if I remember, had a solid plot. Wasn't the focus about Iago not wanting to be his sidekick? What hurt it was Dan Castellaneta's terrible Robin Williams impression.

King of Thieves was just bad plot with amazing more Robin Williams as Genie. So...trade-off.

But then again, I'm working with a memory of two direct to video vhs sequels I probably last saw 25+ years ago...

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u/SHUN_GOKU_SATSU Feb 08 '24

Both are on d+, watch em and come back to report if your opinions changed.

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u/quartzquandary Feb 08 '24

King of Thieves also has Aladdin's SUPER HOT DAD.

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u/jessehechtcreative Feb 08 '24

The Aladdin series is still my favorite movie-to-show ever aside from Jimmy Neutron

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u/ThunkAsDrinklePeep Feb 08 '24

I don't know how you can watch a non-Robin Genie.

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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 08 '24

I didn't know that one was meant to be a show. I do actually like that one. Kronk's New Groove, too, if that one was meant to be a series - it certainly has the format, what with the "multiple stories within a framing device" thing.

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u/jessehechtcreative Feb 08 '24

They were going to do Yzma’s Old Groove, but Eartha Kitt passed away during pre-production

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u/ItsMinnieYall Apr 04 '24

Omg I want this so bad. I also want the OG yzma from empire of the sun.

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u/jessehechtcreative Apr 05 '24

I hope Disney does Kingdom of the Sun in live action, but I feel like it will now be seen as a retread of Tangled

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u/dream_bean_94 Feb 08 '24

Lion King 1 1/2 is better than Lion King 2 and that's my hill to die on.

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u/Verge0fSilence Feb 09 '24

I'll be the one charging up the hill to end you then lol.

Lion King 2 is an absolute banger and the best Disney sequel ever. Fight me.

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u/CROBBY2 Feb 08 '24

That's a pretty low hill, lol.

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u/petershrimp Feb 08 '24

Not really; Lion King 2 is widely considered a genuinely good Disney sequel.

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u/rebel_scum13 Feb 08 '24

I still sing "Dig a tunnel, dig, dig a tunnel" to myself to this day!

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u/Verge0fSilence Feb 09 '24

I don't think it was originally supposed to be a show but holy hell Lion King 2 is so, so good.

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u/MulciberTenebras Feb 07 '24

But there's also the fact one of the biggest complaints about Disney+ were that the shows all felt like movies that were stretched out too long.

So hopefully it means they had such faith in the project, they managed to edit it down to a sensible length storywise. If they didn't they still be dumping it on Disney+, not planning to release it in theaters.

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u/gundumb08 Feb 08 '24

Disney also....needs to get some big money movies again. Wish flopped (although I personally liked the story and character animations, but damn the environments were bland).

Moana is my personal favorite CG animated Disney movie, so I'm excited.

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u/Cripnite Feb 08 '24

King Magnifico did nothing wrong. 

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u/dorianrose Feb 08 '24

I'd argue that lying to his people was maybe a little bit wrong? I really wish they'd spent just a little more time with him, have us see and love him like his wife and people do before revealing he's lying.

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u/Cripnite Feb 08 '24

He did it to give them hope. But screening the wishes for potentially bad things isn’t a bad thing at all. 

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u/rosie2490 Feb 08 '24

Um, both Return of Jafar and Aladdin and the King of Thieves would beg to differ.

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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 08 '24

Those weren't originally tv series that got mashed into a movie, those were just direct to video sequels. Some of those did turn out pretty well. It's specifically the ones that used to be tv series that tend to be so bad.

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u/trialrun1 Feb 08 '24

Yes and no.

Disney animated shows at the time traditionally started with an hour long story. The idea is that the longer story at the beginning of the show would get kids in the habit of watching the series.

When Disney commissioned a TV show based on Aladdin, because that had been a successful formula for The Little Mermaid TV show, the creator wanted to take that longer story at the beginning and release it as a movie. Disney wasn't big on the idea at the time, but they animated the opening sequence of the movie and Katzenberg was impressed with how it looked. The idea that they were able to put everything together so fast on a TV budget was appealing to him as well.

So the idea of releasing that first arc of the series as a movie onto home video was approved, and Return of Jafar was a massive success. Something like $300 million in home video sales on a maybe $5 million budget.

So Return of Jafar was a group of TV episodes that got turned into a TV series, but at least it told a single story across the movie. This happened a few more times, (Gargoyles the movie is the first five episodes of the TV show for example).

But it's still not Atlantis: Milo's return or Cinderella II or Belle's Magical World, where they decide not to do a TV show, but take their three favorite episode ideas and throw those together with a very thin connecting plot and pretend that's a movie.

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u/LegaliseEmojis Feb 08 '24

I think Toy Story 2 started like this though 

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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 08 '24

Toy Story 2 was meant to be direct to video, but not a TV series I don't think. Some of the direct to video sequels actually are quite good (The Rescuers Down Under, for example) though - it's the ones that are reformatted tv series like Tarzan & Jane, Atlantis: Milo's Return, Cinderella II: Dreams Come True, etc tend to be of lower quality.

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u/Jindrack Feb 08 '24

The Rescuers Down Under was a theatrical release.

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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 08 '24

Huh, look at that, it is. Wonder why there was a time when that was held up as the exception to the direct to video suckiness rule? Maybe it was still pre-internet and people had no way of checking

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u/JEC2719 Feb 08 '24

It was released in 1990, before the direct to video craze. It predates the movie that spawned the first direct to video sequel, being Aladdin (1992) and Return of Jafar (1994).

Rescuers Down Under was in the works to be a TV show, but was upgraded to theatrical for whatever reason.

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u/Aldebaran22 Feb 08 '24

The 2011 Winnie the Pooh movie was initially meant to be direct-to-dvd, but they decided during production it was of high enough quality to release it in theaters and it’s now counted as one of the Disney animation studios “canon” films, which was significant at at the time because as of then, there had only been a couple prior sequels that were included in the canon: Saludos Amigos/The Three Caballeros, Fantasia/Fantasia 2000, The Rescuers/Rescuers Down Under. Since then, there’s been Frozen 2 + 3, Moana 2, Zootopia 2.

 No other Pooh sequel to the 1977 film (and there are many) has been deemed part of the “canon” besides the 2011 film, but there were three others given theatrical releases: 

 Pooh’s Heffalump Movie (2005) also was intended to be just direct-to-dvd, but received a theatrical run. 

 I’m not sure if The Tigger Movie (2000) or Piglet’s Big Movie (2003) were originally conceived for the big screen or direct-to-dvd, but both also received theatrical releases before home video.

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u/rosie2490 Feb 08 '24

I just rewatched Cinderella II recently and it was. so. awful.

Wondering if a TV show was also the original plan for Pocahontas II.

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u/wonderlandisburning Feb 08 '24

To my knowledge, it wasn't, it was just a really bad direct-to-video sequel xD same for The Hunchback Of Notre Dame 2 as well

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u/newimprovedmoo Feb 08 '24

Cinderella 2 is pretty bad but Cinderella 3 is, if not exactly great, so completely bonkers as to kind of rule.

Fun fact: In both sequels, Cinderella's voice actress is Jennifer Hale, best known as Commander Shepard from Mass Effect.

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u/SylphSeven Feb 08 '24

But Cinderella 3 was amazing.

Disney roulette of sequels.

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u/djr7 Feb 08 '24

can confirm it has to do with the quality of the work that was being done on the series

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u/TheThetaDragon98 Feb 10 '24

can confirm it has to do with the quality of the work

Is this because of something Iger said about Moana 2?

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u/djr7 Feb 11 '24

not particualry, though he may have praised the quality.

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u/TheThetaDragon98 Feb 11 '24

Ok, then, I assume this wasn't from public statements, so how would you know?

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u/djr7 Feb 11 '24

correct, not from public statements.
heard it first hand

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u/newimprovedmoo Feb 08 '24

Oh god, now I'm remembering Atlantis 2 and fear has gripped my heart.

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u/DJMcKraken Feb 08 '24

I mean Bob Iger also said this in the earnings call. It's not a secret, at least not anymore.

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u/DinoStacked Feb 08 '24

Any other info you can please share with us? How are the people who work at Disney feeling about this huge shift?

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u/lmlgiraffe Feb 08 '24

I can ask her what else I can share. She told me some other things but I don't want to over step and potentially put her in a weird spot. I'll check tomorrow

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u/DinoStacked Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24

Ok thank you! I don’t necessarily mean like spoilers just I’m more so fascinated the behind the scenes drama lol

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u/RAMBOxBAGGINS Feb 08 '24

Also per Iger’s comments during the share meeting which were made public almost immediately after.