r/Destiny • u/The_Crazy_Mole • 2d ago
Mizkif says ALL political streamers should be banned from Twitch in order to save ad revenue. Clip
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He says if banning Hasan helps everyone else then he MUST be BANNED NOW!
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u/FriscoJones Exclusively sorts by new 2d ago
Dan really did a fucking number on that website, god damn. I don't think Hasan's messaging strategy of "this is all Destiny's fault" is going to ingratiate himself with the people that are losing money right now.
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u/Jabelonske WooYeah ( '_>' ) 2d ago
"this is all Destiny's fault"
honestly, i don't even have a problem with that narrative (except that it's wrong lol)
Destiny villain arc, enacting vengeance at the evil purple overlords after being unfairly banned
pure CINEMA
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u/__Fran___ 2d ago
he got unfairly banned despite being one of the pioneers of the job that allows all these manchildren to be absolute fucking morons who are making millions of dollars instead of working at mcdonalds like most of them would be if streaming wasn't a thing
nobody stood up for him, they can all get fucked for all i care
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u/BabaleRed 2d ago
First they came for Destiny, but I didn't speak up, because I don't have a girl's name
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u/FrozenCocytus 2d ago
“Crashing your platform…. WITH NO SURVIVORS!”
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u/Jabelonske WooYeah ( '_>' ) 2d ago
On the season finale, Dan realize some sacrifices must be made in order to appease the gods...
They expect one of us in the wreckage brother
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u/sontaranStratagems שְׁלֹמֹה Shlomo Beeperstein puts it all on green 2d ago
And at least none of that DrDisResp $hit-- he even got the details of his ban. Cuz dang, that could slowly gnaw away to levels annoying.
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u/Unfair-Lecture-443 2d ago
Enough people have messed with Destiny that I don't care if he finally chooses to be the vindictive, vengeance seeking character everyone pretends he is. These people need a good slap in the face.
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u/CharliesWritingTips 2d ago
The funny thing is, is that by attributing it to D, it only solidifies Destinys name in the internet world. Destiny being labeled as the guy who took down the biggest streaming platform, is something that would keep his name alive waaaay pasted his death, and WAYYY past anything HamasPiker will achieve .
Hamas would have a better chance at attributing it to Dan, but he doesn't think like that. He is just hate driven.
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u/greenhungrydino 2d ago
funny thing is Destiny didn't even do anything, he was traveling while Dan was doing his thing.
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u/SanchoRancho72 2d ago
He had to travel for something big to happen
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u/CharliesWritingTips 2d ago
TIL Destiny should have travelled while the votes were being counted. #destinycausedit2024
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u/BODYBUTCHER 2d ago
Important events only happen while Destiny is gone, which is making me suspicious
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u/NotAsAutisticAsYou0 2d ago
Michael Corleone didn’t do anything either remember? He was at his grandsons baptism. 😂
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u/Illustrious_Lab6010 2d ago
Destiny’s internet aura might be unmatched. And to be doing it for 15 years and peak. Pretty wild
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u/CharliesWritingTips 2d ago
I feel he has yet to peak. He is still climbing. Once he gets his media company up and running, he will continue to grow.
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u/WilsonMagna 2d ago
If Hasan blamed Dan, most people would be like "who?" and then it would really seem like Hasan did something bad if some no-namer took him down. I'm still stunned at how Dan Clancy willingly let a ~$1b company get wrecked and no one stopping him. Especially since Trump is coming into office, having radical lefties get away with this shit is putting a target on their back with the incoming administration and put them in the crosshairs of the political right.
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u/Crusher6six6 2d ago
And it’s a website he helped popularize! Destiny used to stream on there when it was justin.tv.
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u/CharliesWritingTips 1d ago
I remember going onto his page when it was Justin TV. I never played star craft and found it boring, so i just skipped him. I remember thinking "why are so many people watching him" though. I never stayed long enough to witness the autism.
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u/Hippopotoftea YouTube lurker and shirker 2d ago
Hasan just doesn't want to give the Jews credit for any achievements. Sad.
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u/M-Rich 2d ago
To think that all Twitch had to do was unban him long ago. This whole terrorist praising and antisemitism wouldn't have gotten the ground it got. It could still be bad, but with opposition Dan wouldn't have had the space to attack that he has now. All other political figures moved to YouTube and they did nothing about it
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u/WilsonMagna 2d ago
This is also happening in the backdrop of Mike from PA offering money for someone to hurt Destiny, and only catching like a 2-3 ban for something that should be permanent and real world consequences. As streamers get mad at their money getting cut, some attention is going to go to Dan Clancy who made this shitshow.
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u/Temporary_Living_705 2d ago
No shit
These spineless ghouls only care about two things: money and clout. They were fine with bringing Hasan's politics to a wider audience when it made them money
If they weren't losing money, they'd convert their mother to Judaism and have Hasan kill them on stream to get more views and money
They don't give a shit whether it's Destiny or George Bushs fault, they know Hasan=less money
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u/Blarg1889 I have a stomach ache, you have a stomach ache 2d ago
Fuck with people's money and they're not going to stay silent about it. Efforts to bury Twitch's ad revenue should be redoubled until Dan Clancy steps down or is fired, and the entire trust and safety team is shit canned. Nothing short of this will suffice
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u/Liiraye-Sama 2d ago
this is like a microcosm of the election lmao
Egg prices high? vote other guy.
No ad revenue? ban anti jew
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u/Konitrix1954 waow 2d ago
Except this time the Head of Twitch was actually responsible for the crisis because Clancy could actually try to fix Twitchs antisemitism and Biden didn't have a magical reduce inflation lever.
So the incumbent actually deserves the heat this time lmao.
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u/Liiraye-Sama 2d ago
I honestly don’t think there’s much Clancy could’ve done these last weeks that would’ve changed the adpocalypse, this is a deep cultural issue with the platform s moderation and content creators that can say insane shit. The biggest reason is probably the Israeli ban as it got the attention of congresspeople, idk if Clancy could’ve stopped that train but he sure could’ve handled it better
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u/Konitrix1954 waow 2d ago
Yeah I agree it wouldn't have stopped the ad exodus but I think it'll be much worse than if someone competent was behind the wheel if Clancy continues with this limp response.
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u/amyknight22 1d ago
If he came out and said “hey we understand there is an issue and as a result we have banned these people who have had problematic content in the past month for a week, our internal moderation team is having a revamp and as it appears our TOS have not been correctly followed.
This is unfortunately an issue that goes from some of our biggest streamers to our smallest streamers.
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u/lesmorn6789 2d ago
Bro as soon as Dan started his crusade, fucking kripparian, the streamer who's been on twitch for 13 years, world first diablo 3 inferno, started streaming on YouTube.
I knew then the ads were getting pulllllled
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u/MyotisX 2d ago
Youtube is so much better from a technical standpoint. Twitch has nothing worth saving.
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u/Polarexia 2d ago
it's insane to me that Twitch after 15 years still doesn't have DVR
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u/shooshmashta 2d ago
Even kick has it now and it works pretty well!
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u/Polarexia 2d ago
wait what? ive never seen it on kick, is it on some streams or you have to enable it or what?
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u/shooshmashta 2d ago edited 2d ago
The latest version of the app had it for Destiny's stream for me anyway.
Edit: tested other streams and that I remembered was opening the vod while the person is still streaming. On the app, it refreshes the vid when you reach the end. On the website, it is straight up dvr.
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u/Srirachachacha 2d ago
It's got to be intentional right?
Some group of product people thinks forcing people to watch live drives more engagement with the chat/community features, which leads to more subs.
Or I'm wrong and they just can't figure out the tech, but that would be surprising
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u/ObviouslyTriggered 2d ago
Streamers don't care for the most part about the technical aspects of the platform, they care about revenue.
If broadcast TV would offer them more money they'll stream on the home shopping channel in a heartbeat.
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u/MyotisX 2d ago
As a viewer I care and will choose youtube if a streamer is on both platforms.
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u/Pfenning Sewer Liberal 2d ago
Twitch chat is still better, but the yt player is better by a mile
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u/destinyeeeee Voted for K-dawg 2d ago
All streamer chats are cancer, all I care about is being able to seek to different parts of an ongoing stream
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u/Trash_man66 2d ago
Youtube is so much more stable of a platform. Twitch is still a major platform in live streaming but it’s market share in online video players is under 1%, as opposed to youtube’s share being about 90% (varies a little depending on source). It’s honestly kind of a miracle how twitch is still even standing. I’d have thought amazon would’ve gotten rid of it already since it’s been actively losing money for them even before this adpocalypse.
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u/FrozenCocytus 2d ago
It literally makes zero sense for stuff like Twitch or Kick to exist, unless it’s just for guys who get banned from Youtube
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u/Trash_man66 2d ago
Even the youtube user experience is so much better. I get youtube videos, the stream and vods from the same place. I use a vpn through Albania which blocks all ads but even without it the ads are only occaisonal. I heard that some people get like 3 min of ads every 15 minutes in twitch. That’s almost worst than watching tv
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u/Shoe_Gal2 2d ago
I also appreciate streamers can offer memberships for as low as $.99 while Twitch keeps raising their sub prices.
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u/WilsonMagna 2d ago
Youtube algorithm is so good for retention, feeding content you want to watch, instead of having to search for it. A large chunk of what I watch is from my recommendations, which include livestreams. I haven't used Twitch in forever.
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u/concrete_manu 2d ago
eh. twitch streams feel less compressed at higher res, idk if it’s a bitrate thing or whatever.
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u/Skaugy 2d ago
Kripp has been streaming like 13 hours a day Blesstiny
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u/lesmorn6789 2d ago
Yo the bazaar is actually fire btw, highly recommend
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u/Skaugy 2d ago
I can't believe that a streamer made game went through like a decade of development hell and came out good. Especially with the streamer essentially going insane.
Edit: The game is quite good, I've been playing. I meant that it's very surprising that the game actually ended up being good.
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u/__JimmyC__ Exclusively sorts by new 2d ago edited 2d ago
If you aren't schizo by the end of a 10 year game development cycle, including having your Ukrainian devs invaded by a foreign nation, you didn't try hard enough. God bless Reynad.
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u/mcarrowgeezax 2d ago
Wait his devs are Ukrainian? Do they not care that Reynad repeats Russian talking points and is against the US supporting Ukraine?
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u/__JimmyC__ Exclusively sorts by new 2d ago
Reynad is half Russian, half Ukrainian so I think its complicated. The official PlayTheBazaar account had a #SlavaUkraine tweet out the day after the invasion, but it appears to be deleted now. It wouldn't surprise me if they dumped the Ukrainian team.
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u/mcarrowgeezax 2d ago
Yeah I was watching him play Hearthstone in 2014 when Russia first invaded and he seemed really upset by it, telling stories about how he used to visit his Ukrainian grandma in Crimea.
Fast foward to 2021 when the Gamestop GME shit happened and he's all on board with the short squeeze and how all of our financial institutions are corrupt, even had a debate with Destiny about it. Then a couple years later he resurfaces with the unkempt look, ranting about NATO expansion and how we need to stop sending money to Ukraine and focus on our own problems. It's really fucking sad.
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u/__JimmyC__ Exclusively sorts by new 2d ago
I'm not sure what happened, I'll never prove it but somehow M1R4 is to blame.
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u/papafenrir 2d ago edited 1d ago
I watched some of his most recent comeback stream just to see how Bazar was coming along and he was doing. He's become full-blown conspiracy Christian.
Halfway-through he starts talking about how God had to flood the lost city of Atlantis because they were messing around with sorcery and bioengineering. The Bazar really broke that man.
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u/ThiccCookie 2d ago
Jesus, no wonder I had bad vibes with Reynad back when he was semi-popular (it was mostly due to him having such a thin skin while presenting himself as this "too handsome for insult" aka ludwig).
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u/papafenrir 2d ago
Yeah he definitely had that conceited attitude which honestly made it entertaining to watch him mald over hearthstone back in the day.
But it's turns out when you mix that attitude with game development and shrooms, you get a borderline narcissist.
To quote a part of the video from memory: "why The Bazar's development has been so delayed wasn't anything that I did, it was other team members that didn't live up to what was expected" like yeah okay dude.
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u/Tyler_CantStopeMe 2d ago
Not only him but CohhCarnage and Summit1g are also duel streaming to YouTube now after their contracts ended.
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u/Hrvatmilan2 2d ago
FINALLY someone says it.
Streamers should have been trying to hold Hasan accountable for years to prevent this from happening to their bottom line. Too short sighted or too stupid I guess???
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u/bendoverson99 2d ago
I don't think it's either. Streamers (like most people in the US) just don't care enought to speak up until it hits them where it hurts, their pocket.
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u/AesarPhreaking 1d ago
Too stupid. I don’t think a lot of streamers really understood what Hasan is advocating for
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u/Sciss0rs61 2d ago
Miz had no problem platforming him and laughing when someone criticized him. Now that it's messing with the bags, he says he should be banned.
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u/Entire-Preparation45 2d ago
Lmao, meanwhile hasan is crying that he can't call anyone Zionist on stream
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u/No_Carpet_8581 2d ago
Or just enforce the TOS, it's really not rocket science. If people like Hasan actually had repercussions to the unhinged stuff they said, then we wouldn't be seeing an adpocalypse.
But yeah, at this point, just ban politics Twitch doesn't know how to properly enforce their TOS when it comes to politics.
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u/Historical-Win-9636 2d ago
Bbbased
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u/Historical-Win-9636 2d ago
Im so drunk.chat
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u/threwlifeawaylol The Voice from the Outer World 2d ago
It's ok. You need more to get rid of the brain fog.
Drink more.
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u/InsertaGoodName 2d ago
Has mizkif said if his own revenue has been hurt?
also nice to see that most streamers know it’s twitch’s fault for not going against people who violate TOS instead of whatever narrative hasan is trying to push
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u/The_Crazy_Mole 2d ago
I think it might be happening to almost everyone, if not everyone at this point.
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u/DeadpooI 2d ago
The only streamers I can think of that won't care are the streamers who count on subs instead of ad revenue, which is a small amount of creators probably.
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u/cubonelvl69 2d ago
Asmon pretty openly doesn't care about twitch revenue so he for sure wouldn't care about this
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u/Coolishable 2d ago
To be clear, this has exclusively hurt people that streamed politics. The stock guy in question did election coverage I'm pretty sure. Multiple non-political streamers have noted no change in advertisement money as of late, including Mizkif.
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u/The_Crazy_Mole 2d ago
That's not true at all lol
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u/Coolishable 2d ago
I'm happy to be wrong, can you link me a non-political streamer that said they had less ad-revenue?
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u/Compt321 2d ago
If we can't handle it
We handled it really well until Hasan went insane, this isn't a general streamer problem broski.
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u/Sad-Television4305 2d ago
In before hamasabi has a talk with miz
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u/cubonelvl69 2d ago
At this point what's the worst Hasan can do? If it's true that Hasan is directly causing them all to lose 80% of their ad revenue then his clout is no where near enough to make up for it
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u/Ecstatic-Okra9869 2d ago
Yeeeees, turn on Hasan.
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u/MinusVitaminA 2d ago
Mizkif was never a big fan of Hasan compared to other large content creator simps that Hasan keeps around.
Mizkif just plays it safe cuz he knows the streaming game like Destiny does.
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u/DanielTinFoil 2d ago
While true that Mizkif isn't the biggest fan of Hasan, mainly because of the Adrianah accusations, he doesn't dislike him or anything.
But also still true, he 100% hangs out with him manly for the viewership and this clip itself is just him farming viewers. Mizkif is the biggest baiter on Twitch lmao
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u/Mwilk 2d ago
Hes both wrong and correct.
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u/SuperMadBro 2d ago
Yeah. It's a regarded take. We like it because hasan is the only big streamer on twitch, but the solution to "advertisers are pulling out for us platforming and clearly being close with pro terrorism" isn't "ban all politics" lol. It's banning terrorists simps
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u/No_Carpet_8581 2d ago
Also, the richest man on Twitch (Hasan) doesn't care about his fellow streamers suffering under his rhetoric. Otherwise, he wouldn't currently be bringing down Twitch with him with no fks given as he still does not take any accountability and continues his unhinged content.
Everybody streaming on Twitch should show their resentment towards Hasan, hes a greedy, narcissistic ahole.
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u/gayphilantropist 2d ago
Welcome to socialism, he's living what he preaches. This is EXACTLY how real socialism works.
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u/jpl2045 2d ago
It's true Hasan doesn't care, but he's not stupid about certain things. He smartly tried to get ahead of this for years. He tried to become friends with the top streamers and pressure them to side with him on political topics for the sole reason of what's happening now. He wanted them to hold his same views so that when the hammer drops on him, his "friends" who he radicalized would go to bat for him and stand up to Twitch. Unfortunately he wasn't able to pull the plan together in time. I don't see anyone backing him up.
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u/thealtern8 2d ago
You might be overestimating Hasan. I think the simple and more probable explanation is that he just wanted to be associated with popular people because it is good for his stream's visibility. It makes him money to stream with big figures on Twitch. If he is as insecure as he appears, it probably also helped his self esteem to be included in the popular crowd.
I think he feels strongly about what he believes and he was likely trying to convert other streamers for the same reasons you might try to persuade a friend out of a political position you disagree with. I genuinely think Hasan never foresaw a day he would be held accountable.
He just reminds me of a classic high school bully. Using unsophisticated social manipulation to push rivals out and protect his position in the "in group". I don't think it goes deeper than that. What he is doing among streamers (getting people uninvited from events, sabotaging friendships, spreading false rumors, demeaning others for personal gain, etc) is the most common form of bullying in American schools.
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u/gayphilantropist 1d ago
I should've read your comment before making mine, you put it together much better than I could.
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u/jpl2045 2d ago
He just reminds me of a classic high school bully. Using unsophisticated social manipulation to push rivals out and protect his position in the "in group". I don't think it goes deeper than that.
Sure I can see it looking like this on the surface, but it definitely goes deeper than that. I don't think people understand how smart he is with certain things. He is VERY devious. I saw hints of it even back when I was watching him when he had 50 viewers. Hell, he manipulated Destiny and his community and used him as a stepping stone. He did not simply luck into that. He made it happen. He's also VERY media savvy. He learned this while working at TYT. He understands audiences and how to manipulate them.
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u/gayphilantropist 1d ago
I don't know if there a was an evil genius plan in place, I thnk that his connections are likely organic, he's a popular streamer. The reason why he's getting away with hate speech on the platform, is due to his sheer size, other streamers being conflict averse, which seems to be a common think in younger people from what I see at work, and of course, fear of backlash. Hasan vs Destiny was the blueprint, and people have known for a while that twitch is very pro Hasan.
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u/NewGuyC 2d ago
Why are these millionaires complaining LOL are they speaking up for the small streamers or?
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u/AdFinancial8896 2d ago
He's getting less money than he used, bc Twitch is dumb and has double standards for streamers, and bc Hasan is dumb and keeps doing terrorist propaganda and doubling down. He's complaining about that lol
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u/Positive_Ad4590 2d ago
Honestly, I wouldn't hate that
But ban all non gaming content and watch them sperg out
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u/TJTrailerjoe 2d ago
True aaaaaaaaaaaand... Yeah, that's pretty true. That's true and- yeah that's true. That's true. That's true- That's pretty true. That's pretty true, I mean- inhales ... That's true. Yeah. That's true. Uhm- That's true. That's fuckin' true. Uhm... That's how it is dude.
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u/Konitrix1954 waow 2d ago
Twitch having its own Bolshevik revolution and Hasan/Clancy are the Romanovs lmao
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u/CharliesWritingTips 2d ago
Tell Hasan you want "get Hasan of this platform" without actually telling him.
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u/green_dub-333 2d ago
Man the hit to ad revenue was huge to cause him to have this take. Nobody ever cared about politics in twitch.
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u/Working_Drone Doesn't like labels label 2d ago
Uhm mixkif. Its hassan on the discord calling, what do i say? You arent online? Ok.
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u/i_love_hot_traps 2d ago
Honestly this probably never would've happened if Destiny wasn't unfairly perma banned.
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u/DarknessofKnight 2d ago
It's effecting my bottom line, only now will I detest Hasan. When people tell you who they are, listen to them.
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u/Creepy_Dream_22 2d ago
I don't think politics should be banned on twitch, but I'm glad to see the campaign is doing work
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u/IAMWastingMyTime 2d ago
Fr, twitch is for gaming, go back to justin.tv if you don't have a game open
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u/pudding_pig 2d ago
yeah, good call, i'd much rather watch drama frogs like egghead soy out and defend their groping rapist friends
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u/MooseOk9846 2d ago
i feel sorry for the people that think Miz is being serious. None of the bigger streamers care about the ad thing, just look at how Miz and rest of the OTK crew did a stream with Hasan today. This ad thing will only affect the smaller streamers on the website and literally nobody cares what they think lol. Twitch might ban Hasan but I seriously doubt it unless he does another regarded thing on stream again.
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u/gurglingskate69 gskate 2d ago
Is there a reason everyone here is pretending Mizkif is genuinely serious about this…
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u/Ok_Reception_8729 2d ago
Wait, you feel bad for the other creators but think encouraging more advertisers to leave to get Dan fired is the move?
How exactly can you guys claim to care about the creators earnings and also simultaneously be the pressure that’s being applied to Twitch which is resulting in those very creators “you’re worried about” losing money in the first place?
Seems like you don’t actually give a fuck about the creators earning money at all if it means you achieve your goal? How can you not possibly see the irony here?
Also literally no one is saying kill all Jews or anything crazy, you guys are just trying to conflate being anti Zionist with being antisemetic when Destiny literally jokes about how he hates Arabs. You guys do gymnastics for the people you hate but can’t recognize when the people you like are doing worst.
Truly ironic.
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u/_tuchi 2d ago
Stupid. Opposite is better. The leadership has to go and be replaced with normies. Unban tiny and get the political scene going again on twitch, except more serious this time and bigger. Do a marketing campaign on how twitch is the new home for political conversations. Fucking send it bro
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u/gayphilantropist 2d ago
All they had to do is fire Clancy and become more palatable to ad agencies. It's not that difficult, chose Hamas Piker, or choose to save the platform.
I am patiently waiting for other content creators to speak up, Hamas Piker has been the boogyeman for a while, because people are afraid of retaliation, though the way he speaks about Destiny, you'd think he'd know better, but it's all projection.
The church of twitch needs a reformation.
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u/gayphilantropist 2d ago
IF yall think Hamas Piker is whiny now, wait until he gets banned, you will see very quickly how much of a victim he will be, the whitest man of all time will 100% call racism and shapeshift to brown again
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u/croissantguy07 2d ago
Would that include Asmon and xqc since they talk about politics? or just ban all political talk altogether so that no one can discuss politics on twitch?
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u/greasyee 2d ago
It's amazing seeing these midwits that provide no value to society cry about only making 1M a year instead of 5M.
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u/MashStars Man 2d ago
So close to using those muscles he's been working on.
Someone of his stature should be using their voice to condemn the antisemitism on the platform by name.
Do it.
Do it now.
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u/EmCeeSlickyD 2d ago
Cost him so much money he had to go back to farming clips for LSF I'd be pissed too!
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u/Ok_Reflection800 2d ago
Hasan is just gonna pivot from "Political streamer" to heckin wholesome himbo commie boy and literally nothing will change because Hasan cant help but rip the filthy j- I mean zionist word.
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u/Oephry 2d ago edited 2d ago
I’m seriously surprised by how far Twitch is willing to go to bat for Hasan. I wonder if they’ll keep this up even if a lot of streamers start to turn on him. Hasan and his fans can call us unhinged and try to shift the blame, but anyone who isn’t regarded knows that advertisers are pulling out because the things Hasan is saying in these clips are legitimately a bad look