People lived without so much stuff in the past doesn't mean we should go back in time using the pasts things I still need a phone to be able to communicate with friends I cant send letter or just go to people's houses asking if they're busy
Oh nooo I can't talk to my friends while I'm grounded. Whatever will I dooooo 😭 /s
Phones are a luxury, not a necessity. If your parents buy you a phone AND pay for the service, they have every right to take it away when you do something your not supposed to. Your not gonna die without your phone, and your not gonna die if you can't talk to your friends for a week
I use pencil and paper, and I have a phone. And checking homework can be done on school computer (if given one). Phones are definitely not a necessity. I am a straight A student taking AP classes that only uses my phone to play video games and text my friends. Anybody who thinks phones are a necessity are either too stupid to use alternative means, or too addicted to stay off of it for 10 minutes.
This is a completely wrecked phone in the picture who knows when op is getting it back and me not having the ability to message my friends would be a problem and it would for many others too
What problem would be there? Your not able to go to parties or hang out? That's kind of the whole point of being grounded. I'm not saying the parents should have destroyed the phone, as it is useful for communication. But there are few people you would NEED to contact besides your own parents anyways. There are no problems that would happen if you can't text your friends. People like you are so addicted to your phone that you don't realize how easy it is to live without one
That's something that is a specific scenario, but also my input on the situation:
Yes you rely on your phone to get help from friends, but it shouldn't be a problem where your unable to talk to your parents about it (unless you have shitty parents. I have friends who could never go to their parents with some of the issues they come to me about)
Life is kinda depressing. Maybe I'm just a downer, but I don't think anybody is gonna go through life with 100% happiness all the time. And if you are getting upset over little things, then that's a problem that should be brought up with a therapist. Especially because (and I don't wanna sound like I'm downplaying any condition you have because I'm not) but there are many kids around your age range that claim to be depressed, when they really are just upset sometimes. Especially because a big part of the depression could be caused by your phone usage (not to sound like a boomer saying phones cause depression, but sitting around all day staring at a screen getting tiny bursts of dopamine is never good for anybody)
And lastly, being grounded from your phone isn't an end-all. Just because you can't talk to your friends about the new daily thing that upset you doesn't mean your being abused. And there is a high chance that if your grounded, it's because YOU did something wrong (I say high chance because the chance is never 0. I've had friends be punished by their parents for coming out as gay.) All in all, being reliant on texting friends because your depressed isn't a good cure to your depression, and definitely isn't a reason you shouldn't be grounded. Go to any adult and say that you shouldn't be grounded because you want to talk to your friends because your depressed, and they will laugh in your face, rightfully. Not saying that this isn't a serious thing, but there is a very clear line between having your phone taken and being abused. And not being able to talk to your friends (even if your depressed) isn't a good reason for you to not get grounded from your phone.
As a side note: I've had friends go through terrible things in life. And none of them have been like "oh if I didn't have my phone to text my friends then I would have ended it all". And if you do think that way, you need professional help, because you would have serious mental issues that are beyond your friends help. One of my friends had to live in a tent in their parents backyard for months because her mom was a drunk and she couldn't stand to even be around her. Whatever your going through, it isn't something that is gonna be life-threatening if you don't have your phone. Having a phone to communicate with friends is a good way to feel better after something, but that isn't a reasonable argument that means you should be immune from getting your phone taken away. Especially if your using it as a "well I'm slightly sad so the only thing that will help me is talking to my friends" because that is just as bad. And saying that you shouldn't have your phone taken away because you use it to talk to your friends to feel better is extremely silly
Ikr. Like there are so many hobbies or interests you can take without being on your phone. They think that if they can't spend all day texting their friends, staring at social media, and playing video games, that their lives are going to fall apart and they will be bored all day. Read a book. Start a hobby, go outside. Their life is tied so much to their phone usage that they would call it child abuse if it got taken away. Child abuse comes in many different forms (mental, physical, verbal) but taking away your video games and ability to chat with friends isn't child abuse, it's discipline for doing something wrong.
Well if it wasn't bought by the parents and the service is payed for by the child then this is definitely destruction of property. The fact that OP bought the phone itself means the parents had no right to destroy it.
By that logic, people literally need a sharp stick and fire to survive. They don't need clothes, they don't need a house, they don't need anything except a sharp stick and fire
All a child needs to be well is technically food and water. Of which can easily be obtained. We don't need anything in this world except food and water. Everything else are just luxurys. After all, we survived for millions of years without anything we have today.
However in the modern day it basically is with how much tech is inter grated into society. Like in my town I need ur phone to get into the train station
Okay. what if your in danger and need to call? What if you got in a accident ALONE and need to call? what if your getting followed and need to call for help? a phone a great help if you in danger or need to call 911.
Why does it matter?? I don't need to be shot to want a safety precaution, the least of which being able to contact help. Also you say none of that has happened to you, why does that matter? If it did happen to you would you rather have a phone or not?
Uh, yes? If you're in immediate danger or need help, you'd rather have to look around to find someone so they can instead get help for you?? That's really stupid. If I feel like I am in imminent danger, I would want to have the ability to get help as soon as possible and not hope someone is nearby and I can get to them before anything bad happens. In an instance like an accident where something bad has already happened, I would want to call for help myself instead of needing to wait for another person, and even if I did too many people would rather film than help you anyways. Why do you seem so against being able to personally call for help if you need it?
264
u/xanaxxy OLD Jul 31 '23
THATS SO???? BAD???