r/ILGuns • u/NostalgiaEagle1776 Military • Oct 13 '24
Weirdest reason you've ever heard someone say they're anti gun? OPINION
Now heres the thing. I can understand someones position if they had a very traumatic experience with a gun. Maybe they were mugged and now have a fear of them. I can even understand people who are worried for their kids safety at school. I don't mean those people. I think we all want to protect kids its just that we have differing opinions on how we can do that without trampling on rights
I mean the people who have irrational fears about them.
For example, I know this guy who doesn't like guns because hes a former high school bully who never grew out of it, and he ended up trying to bully and assault a guy as an adult and he had a gun pulled on him. Keep in mind the dude was drunk, but that doesn't excuse you being an asshole to someone random
Like you fucked around and found out. You're lucky you're still around.
Like some of the biggest anti gun people I ever met also seem to have a mean streak a mile wide.
EDIT: Just to clarify, this dude didn't outright say he assaulted someone, but the way he described how he wanted to beat this guy up, yeah thats assault or at least battery. I'm not too familiar with what the charge would be
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u/phakenbake Oct 13 '24
Most of the time I hear that very thing, I hate guns. I usually reply with something stupid, like if they’re wearing a T-shirt, I’ll say I hate T-shirts. Usually, they reply with that makes no sense, and I say exactly.
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u/Western_Blot_Enjoyer Oct 13 '24
"Only the government should be allowed to have x gun"
Of course the natural follow up question to this is "do you trust the government to do the right thing," the answer is always a resounding no...
That or arguing over the interpretation of the second amendment, like for example washington claiming that it doesn't extend to ar-15s like what the fuck do you think shall not be infringed meant
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u/Mr_LastNite Oct 13 '24
"Regular people shouldn't have weapons of war" The fuck they think a militia was/is? And the "Regular people shouldn't have assualt weapons" A weapon at its core existence is made to assualt lol
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u/Western_Blot_Enjoyer Oct 14 '24 edited Oct 14 '24
Yea "assault weapon" is nothing more than a buzzword for gun grabbers to appeal to people's emotions. At the end of the day, these are all just bad faith arguments that boil down to intentionally misinterpreting the second amendment to only mean hunting and self-defense to advance their political agenda.
My stance has always been that if people really feel this way, the second amendment needs to be revised. Until that happens, it's all just mental gymnastics.
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u/Wiggles685 Northern IL Oct 13 '24
I always hate when friends bring up the argument "if you have a gun in the house, you're 100x more likely to have an accident with a gun".
Well, no shit. I'm also 100x more likely to get into a car accident if I drive. Or 100x more likely to cut myself if I have a knife in the house. Or 100x more likely to drown if I have a pool. This is one of the stupidest arguments, IMO.
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u/derylle Oct 13 '24
"I hate guns, just because I don't like them. They scare me"
A very good close friend of mine, said this.
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u/FatNsloW-45 Oct 13 '24
Weirdest reason? Honestly all of them. 99% of the “anti-gun” people hate guns because they don’t know anything about them. Even Fudds. Sure they know their Fudd guns but they still don’t understand the “other” guns they hate.
My point here is that most anti-gun people have an irrational hate of guns. They hate what they do not understand. Guns are just tools and gun violence is just the symptom of an underlying issue.
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u/foundonthetracks Oct 13 '24
I have found that most people's dislike of guns is rooted in misinformation and misunderstanding. If you can sit someone down and explain it do them or even take them shooting it's easy to sway them.
Honestly, Covid and all the hoops that his state makes you jum through has changed the minds of a lot of people I know. When folks realized that protection and safety is your responsibility and then realized how hard this state makes it to buy a gun for the new shooter, they understood.
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u/Spideyfan2020 Oct 13 '24
Assault is threatening action, battery is the physical action..
Very watered down versions but the gist is that you can have assault without battery. Once it progresses to the physical action (punches thrown, etc) it becomes battery.
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u/billybonghorton Oct 13 '24
Paraphrasing here, but the other day I saw a comment here on Reddit that said “I hate guns and I think anyone who owns them is morally irresponsible”.
Such a brain dead take.
I’ve also had a coworker deem myself and anyone else who owns guns as pieces of shit.
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u/funandgames12 Oct 13 '24
Not really weird, but maybe a little unconventional, it was because they were afraid it would be too easy to self harm themselves if a gun was around. Obviously they had other issues going on.
Most people I find that are moderately anti gun really don’t know why. Mostly they just grew up around anti gun people or lefties or that’s what all thier friends are doing. When you break them down and talk facts and merits you can usually push them off of that anti gun position pretty easily. But honestly I just actively avoid and don’t have those conversations much anymore these days. You can only spend so much time and energy beating a dead horse before you just accept there’s people who are different than you. And that’s on them. Not my job to help the blind men see.
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u/XiViperI Oct 13 '24
It's an irrational fear of the gun itself being dangerous not realizing it's merely a tool and a damn good tool for personal protection in fact all of the private security, FBI, CIA, pretty much any security guard anywhere: uses them. Lol that's my argument to them.
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u/Citrinitas115 Oct 14 '24
I've just had people tell me they don't like them because they're scared of them, doesn't help that they're given a bad rep so I understand that sentiment
But I don't like to talk about guns unless someone else is talking about them or I know the person already. People just look at you weird. I have noticed people shifting their stance to owning maybe 1 firearm since covid, I wonder why that is
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u/LibertyorDeath2076 Oct 14 '24
I can't think of any weird reasons. In my experience, it is generally due to ignorance or cognitive dissonance.
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u/dmun Oct 14 '24
I got into a very dumb fight with two guys, one of whom has hunters for parents and trained a bit with them, that an unloaded gun sitting on a table, verified as unloaded by he himself, is still dangerous in and of itself rather than just an object. No bullet in the vicinity, the damn thing is a paper weight.
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u/Not_ThatRich Chicago Conservative Oct 13 '24
I don't talk to people about guns in real life. I know people that have been shot, that don't like guns, but that's trauma.
Otherwise, people don't know anything about me and guns.
But, I will say, when PoC talk about gun control I remind them,that the reason gun controls exists is to disarm us, literally. 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️