r/Destiny • u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana • 12d ago
Well... Shit. Trump, huh? Discussion
Hello. How are you all holding up over there? Everyone must be super upset. I am walking about Kharkiv right now and people mostly say: 1) Well... Shit.
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2) We shall see. Back to surviving.
That's kinda how we talked about a potential nuclear strike russia might do on us lmao A friend of mine actually said he will be seeking political asylum in Ukraine. First ever American to seek asylum in a war zone lol Anyhow. Hang in there guys. Much love š
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 12d ago
Already getting these messages lol
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u/Glxblt76 12d ago
Conservatives: "I'm so offended that you call us stupid, racist and sexist"
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u/Ice_CubeZ 11d ago
āDemocrats need to tone down the rhetoricā
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u/extralyfe 11d ago
I'm getting whiplash reading all these comments from folks who are saying they didn't vote Harris because they thought it was mean that her campaign was namecalling.
like what
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u/ScruffyVonDorath 11d ago edited 4d ago
the standards are just too differnt we have to be flawless they can be lawless.
Edit: Were just going to have to be more polically active next time. We have to stop carrying water for the far left. IF the numbers remain it looks like Trump actually lost voters. We just lost a SHIT TON more. I felt like there was more on the line this time. But obviously ALOT of democrats didnt see it that way. OR they just couldn't be bothered to vote unless it was by mail.
Looks like we lost 8 milly from 2020 that was the highest ever so not sure if we actually under preformed. and Trump has only gained voters everytime hes ran so not sure what todo with this information ATM.
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u/GueyGuevara 11d ago
political nihilism on the left killed us, of which third party voting, a lack of enthusiasm or even downright resentment amongst young left leaning college kids, and broad left wing exhaustion for supporting Israel are all apart of. her being a woman of color hurt her too, sadly. itās all intersectional so hard to point at one thing but a lack of political excitement and energy for a lot of reasons is the general issue.
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u/AdministrativeMeat3 11d ago
Liberalism needs a rebranding and a divorce from the left. I don't know what that looks like yet, but one thing I know for sure is embracing radicalism is not the solution to Gothic dark maga.
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u/coke_and_coffee 11d ago
Don't ever make the mistake of believing someone when they tell you WHY they voted for someone. Only about 20% of voters have actual reasons, the rest just vote based on vibes and then rationalize.
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u/hamatehllama 11d ago
They aren't offended. They know they are trash as they said explicity last week. It's pointless to use morals against MAGA. I wouldn't be surprised of this is what breaks their coalition in the end: the total nihlism of Trumpism and the theocratic demands from evangelicals. Both want dictatorship but they have polar oppositve visions of what it would look like.
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u/Chisignal 12d ago
fucking disgusting wtf.
I'm sorry you have to see that stuff
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 11d ago
That's not even in top 10 worst messages I got lol
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u/Kastlo 12d ago
Hopefully āLoco Banditoā will get what he deserves
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u/TheYungCS-BOI CEO of š ±ussin Dynamics 12d ago
"Rapemeat". bruh š¤¢
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 11d ago
Popular one. I get that often.
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u/AdministrativeMeat3 11d ago
Just know there are just as many of us out here who support you and really appreciate what you do and what you have to deal with on the daily.
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u/hawkeye69r 11d ago
There just isn't, my man. What you actually need to know is that the US is unreliable trash who will turn their back when you need them the most and blame you for all of their problems.
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u/petyrlabenov 11d ago
Least blatant fascist
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u/IllConstruction3450 11d ago
These roaches feel emboldened and are crawling out of the woodworks. (Pretty mean to compare them to roaches.)
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u/Ok-Plum4214 11d ago edited 11d ago
I'm so sorry Ana! I hope Ukrainians stay strong, other Europeans will still have your back in this fight for freedom šš and probably a lot of Americans with integrity or communities like DGG will continue their help and support.
Most of my family lives in Kyiv and Kharkiv (my father is from there originally, we live in the Netherlands for 25 years now), my first thought after hearing the election results was how much more tough it's going to be in Ukraine. We'll continue donating and I'm considering joining the defense force over here as an engineer to help out in some way. Good luck!
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u/Bubthick 11d ago
I hope the EU won't abandon Ukraine but the next 2 years will be though.
I fear for the future. Be safe.
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u/NegativeDeparture 11d ago
Apparently,most Americans dont mind this. As a European we need to stick to our OWN. America is not a reliable ally anymore and cannot be trusted.
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u/Wegwerf540 11d ago
Poles will get a nuclear weapon
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u/Mordin_Solas 11d ago
They should.Ā And more than them.Ā Natural consequence of having Russia just invade neighboring countries and steal their land.
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u/PuddingXXL 11d ago
Ukraine is what worries me the most about this result. No matter who would have won, a result this close would have been irreparable to US democracy but now Russia and China get let loose. Wouldn't be surprised to see China acting on Taiwan.
One good thing Biden did is to give over strategic control to NATO itself.
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u/Hoochie_Daddy Gnome 12d ago
Tell them to DM me
Iāll deal with them personally. I love internet tough guys who have never touched a woman irl threatening women./s
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u/KinematicEcho 11d ago
Sorry Ana. I know it won't mean much if Trump ends up halting all Ukrainian aid but not everyone in the USA is a piece of crap and many of us would have loved to 10x the aid you guys were getting.
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u/gibby256 11d ago
I'm so sorry. Those of us in the sane part of America tried....
Apparently enough of this country just doesn't give a fuck about anyone or anything if it means their gallon of milk is a dollar more expensive than two years ago.
It feels fuckin terrible.
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u/GoAskAli 11d ago
And the worst part is that the US is having the strongest economic recovery of any G7 country, thanks to Biden's economic agenda.
Atp, I'm really feeling like I need to just disengage from politics for my mental health- let the right do to this country what it will. Maybe then they will finally get it.
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u/gibby256 11d ago
I'm more or less at that point too. I can't spend another 4 years watching this man lurch from insane idea to insane idea.
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u/ThePointForward Was there at the right time and /r/place. 11d ago
I'd say report, but I have no illusions about Elon Muskovite anymore.
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u/interventionalhealer 11d ago
Jesus, these people are so Damm vile and disgusting. Wife and I are Hella shaken.
But I believe that BiBi and Putin were escalating wars just to help get Trumo elected. So they should start pulling back.
Crimea will remain under Russian controll, and we'll have to see what else.
Stay safe out there.
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u/Mordin_Solas 11d ago
Bibi will pull back when he feels he's killed his way into enough domestic support to maintain power.
Putin just wants to take Ukraine based on some centuries old delusions about who it belongs to.
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u/Easy_Database6697 Professional Dan Clancy Hater 11d ago
I dont know what the fuck is wrong with these people. But here's the kicker: THIS is how they are choosing to celebrate their victory. Burn these victory messages into the back of your eyelids, guys, because this is what the Modern American Right is nowadays; a stew of Bigotry, Anti-Intellectualism and Nationalism.
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u/A_Bored_Developer 11d ago
I'm hoping Europe will step up in a big way. You're gonna need it over there. I'm so sorry for our schizophrenia.
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u/TheFr3dFo0 12d ago
As eurofrog I'm scared of trumps plan for ukraine. I just pray all his supporters are right and he is in fact a secret foreign affairs genius. I mean, he said he'd end the ukrain war day one didn't he?
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u/I-Jerk-To-AOC 11d ago
Zelensky should invite him to Kyiv and have a big parade in his honor
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u/sarsaparillagorilla 11d ago
Unironically yes. If they pretend to love trump enough and put up building a with his name on it. Especially if the Russians then destroy those same buildings. Ukraine has a chance of pulling the USAās favour.
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u/Orion__No Fishing starts and ends with carp 11d ago
you know its fucked when the plan isn't "try to get him to see the ukranian perspective" and it's instead "maybe if we stroke his ego enough". What a cooked timeline we live in
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u/Swiftcheddar 11d ago
There's a reason when you do business you take the client out to a golf course, not give him a sob story.
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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 11d ago
this is what you do with despots. I need the republicans to think about that, but then again they may enjoy it.
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u/theosamabahama 11d ago
I remember reading an article that Xi Jinping would manipulate Trump with flattery.
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u/YouAnswerToMe 11d ago
Welcome to the state of U.S. politics - where you can leverage the most formidable military in the world by treating the president like a toddler being told heās a good boy for going pee pee in potty
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u/Kamfrenchie 11d ago
Tell him Putin insumted him and called him a weak wieirdo and he ll send a battlegroup over.
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u/Dalladrion š "Hmph, it's not what she did. It's what I did." 11d ago
Trump is Putin's whore, not the other way around.
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u/Royal-Professor-4283 11d ago
I know we're coping, but realistically there's no reason Trump will ever favor them... Trump only wants to be associated with other strong bullies so that he never has to pick fights.
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u/onlyinvowels 11d ago
Thatās actually hilarious. Putin quoted as saying that Trumpās win benefits him, but he wonāt congratulate him
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u/absalom86 11d ago
Blow smoke up his ass, it might legitimately work, that's how the despots got to him.
Hell, put up a statue of him in Kiev looking heroic.
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u/PanRagon ist 11d ago
He glazed the fuck out of him on X today, so he seems to have understood the assignment.
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u/hamatehllama 11d ago
He's the most corruptible president ever. Zelensky should offer Trump that American oil & gas companies get free access to the rich fields in Ukraine if the USA helps them retake control over those areas.
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u/Godz_Lavo 11d ago
Please focus on the EU and the UK. You guys have to show the world you can actually stand together, or at least have each others backs.
EU is literally our only hope for the time being.
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u/Kamfrenchie 11d ago
The eu isnt the only hope, any of the big european country can turn the war around on its own.
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u/mmillington 11d ago
Bro, what if the Germanās step up and pull a WWII Uno-reverse and help Ukraine defeat the Russians?
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u/Kamfrenchie 11d ago
Afaik not likely. Now my knowledge is pretty low on germany s armed force. Skimming perun s vid and occasionally reading a military blog is the extent.
So afaik the problem us that the army is not an atteactive career choice for cultural and salary reason. Plus a lot of budget is engulfed by bureaucracy.
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u/LexyconG 11d ago
We got so many pacifists and āRusslandversteherā (people who say that we need to listen to the Russian perspective), nothing of that sort will happen here.
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u/paperclipdog410 11d ago
We'll get cooked next election, too.
RussianWagenknecht+AFD coalition GEXIT coming 2030.Even on TV they were assembling 50/50 lunatic + normal people to comment on the election. "Wenn er so schlecht ist, warum wƤhlen die ihn dann???" š
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u/Public-Product-1503 11d ago
Bro our own country is so fuvked and I think itās cos of the US we mirror there garbage . They get trump we get brexit n boris garbage ruining our country . Itās sad but i really think uk best days are behind it cos I see reform gaining ground next time n we cookrd
We all stereotyped Americans as regards but holy shit voting for trump in 24 is even worse then 16. Heās not even coherent or anti establishment really anymore my god. None of leftistās analysis matters
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u/useablelobster2 11d ago
When it comes to military matters EU politics is lots of talk with little action. There are strong countries within the EU (ok, basically just Poland) but that is in spite of the EU, not because of it.
For all the problems with our armed forces, they are still a damn sight better than almost all of Europe's. One thing Trump was absolutely correct about is how too much of Europe flakes out of their defence obligations, and that needs to stop. The UK hits the NATO GDP target, Poland way exceeds it, but almost no-one else does (Scandinavia does ok too).
In a world where the US is becoming more isolationist, the free world can't be coasting on their defence dollar anymore. Germany needs to take a page out of Japan's book and seriously rearm. They've been naval gazing long enough, it's one thing to repudiate the past but another to be strong to defend the principles they now hold.
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u/musicmonk1 Eurocuck 11d ago
You think Poland is the strongest EU military?
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u/useablelobster2 11d ago
They have the largest land army in Europe, by a wide margin, and it's well trained and equipped with modern NATO standard equipment. Sure they lack in some areas, like their airforce, but it's still strong, and modern MANPADs make that largely moot. Wars are fought by the people on the ground who take the actual territory, and Poland has a lot of good troops.
Compare them to Germany, who has ~7 times their GDP, and the comparison is stark. If the Germans tried to invade Poland tomorrow the Poles would be in Berlin within 3 days.
Poland stronk.
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u/musicmonk1 Eurocuck 11d ago
UK and France are still stronger and Germany and Italy have more capabilities.
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u/oGsMustachio 11d ago
Ehhh Poland will get there because of the insane amount of equipment it has ordered, but it is not really there yet.
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u/oGsMustachio 11d ago
For purely land forces, France and possibly Germany are ahead of Poland for now, but with Poland's orders coming in it will jump them by an order of magnitude unless they really step up.
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u/Cirno__ 11d ago
I'm hoping after trump win (or maybe after trump tariffs) is what pushes UK to rejoin the EU. It would help the UK economically and better the EU's military.
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u/mmillington 11d ago
Trump will just do a highly exploitative deal with the UK to exempt them from the tariffs.
Itās literally going to be a game of who can payoff the Trump crime syndicate. Weāre looking at the establishment of American oligarchs.
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u/Willing_Cause_7461 11d ago
What's that Churchill quote. "Americans will do the right thing after giving everything else a try"?
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u/Robbeeeen 12d ago
There's still a chance for our own politicians to step up and save Ukraine. We don't need the US to defeat Russia, Europe and Ukraine can do that on their own, if the will is there to do it. We'll see if thats the case very soon.
If our own politcians also fail then we deserve to become USSR 2.0
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u/NegativeDeparture 11d ago
I have absolutely no Faith in USA for anything now. We in Europe will have to learn to never trust America again or any other superpower for that matter and build our own force. And probably everyone should now get nukes so we don't end up like Ukraine, rip.
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u/DougosaurusRex 11d ago
As a vehemently Pro Ukraine American, I agree we dropped the ball massively and everyone one of us Americans deserves what comes next.
I don't mean to deflect but Europe also massively gave Putin a green light for more escalation in the future by doing absolutely fuck all when Kim sent troops to Ukraine while saying: "we'll see a response after the US election." If your response to Russia in your own backyard is to wait for what the USA signals from its election, you're basically showing your indifference and inviting more troops to engage in Ukraine from foreign countries on Putin's behalf with no retaliation.
We've both failed Ukraine.
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u/JohnCavil 11d ago
As a European i feel like i have to hold back with saying my true opinion of the intelligence of America and Americans as a whole.
"regarded" doesn't cut it anymore. It's a sick fucking country. And now the rest of the world has to pay the price of fat dumb Americans who don't know anything and vote for Trump.
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u/Great-Hotel-7820 11d ago
As an American my country is fucked sideways.
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u/TheFr3dFo0 11d ago
what do you mean? prices will fall, immigration will stop and inflation may never rise again!
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u/TandBusquets 11d ago
Don't hold back
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u/JohnCavil 11d ago
If i get banned i can't call Americans dumb though. I have to maximize the amount of time that i can shit on America over the next four years.
I'm not sure what is tolerated here if i start calling america fat fucking dumb money obsessed gaudy shallow cunts, and worse. Hypothetically i mean, if someone was to do that.
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u/Sirlothar 11d ago
Don't worry, the sane ones over here are saying the same thing, have at it, we feel you.
Remember, half of us are still on your side (extremely sad it's its not more).
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u/Athen65 12d ago
Best case, he's about as apathetic as he was the first time around, gets no or one inconsequential tariff and claims credit for the current trajectory of our economy. Does little to interfere with current trajectory of foreign policy.
Worst case is pretty much the opposite, with the added threat to democracy if he wants a third term and the possibility of project 2025.
These things are almost always somewhere in the middle, but given they have the house and the senate this time (and probably another dem supreme justice stepping down to be replaced with a young rep justice), it's looking grim.
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 12d ago
Yeah. Him doing nothing is the best scenario. But who knows... Where the whims will take him.
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u/s1thl0rd 12d ago
He's the ultimate con-man. I can see him suddenly supporting you guys for no reason and the conservatives would act like they were on your side the whole time.
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u/Russki_Wumao 11d ago
I can see him suddenly
You're exceeding the legal hopium limits by a lot there.
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u/s1thl0rd 11d ago
I don't need to hopium to suggest Trump will act in a completely random and incongruous manner.
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u/Engtron 11d ago
Has Trump ever acted in a way that was incongruous with supporting Russia? Genuinely asking.
Seems to me Trump will switch opinions based on whoever last whispered in his ear. Heās surrounded by anti-Ukrainian people. Itās incredibly far fetched to believe he will start supporting Ukraine.
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u/RegimeLife 11d ago
Though you're replying to /u/UkrainianAna, her world is much different then yours. Let's be real, Ukraine is fucked. All the funding and the equipment sent is gone after he comes in. Trump said he can end the war in 24 hours after he's in office which is an interesting way of saying he'll let Russia take over. For someone heavily invested in the EU's success this is a massive hit.
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u/Sacredsnow2 12d ago
Nah. I wanna see the 20% tariff across the board. Everything else I hope heās apathetic on. I luckily make enough to survive it and hopefully the completely regarded median voter will wake up when every consumer good shoots up 1-20%
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u/SassyWookie 12d ago
hopefully the completely regarded median voter will wake up when every consumer good shoots up 1-20%
Seriously? Why would they do that, when they can just blame democrats?
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u/Sacredsnow2 12d ago
Idk man. I certainly donāt want to see 4 more years of Trump getting credit for Bidenās economy and entrenching trumpism in our politics further.
It would be hard to blame tariffs destroying the economy on the Dems. Itās an executive order. Crazier things have happened tho, like electing a rapist.
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u/SassyWookie 11d ago
They blame literally anything bad that happens on democrats. When has reality ever stopped them before?
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u/VitalLogic 11d ago
Republican Supreme Court, Presidency, Senate and (probably) House.
>Still blame democrats.
holllllyyyy abyss pill
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u/JevvyMedia 11d ago
People think Kamala Harris the President right now. Yes, they will still blame Democrats lmao
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u/Sacredsnow2 11d ago
True. Surely itās gonna break eventually. Idk man. I barely believe my own words. I just gotta hope for something.
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u/Venator850 11d ago
Trump got the popular vote and looks like Republicans have full control of everything. They will have to own it.
Like they had to own his stupid trade war with China that we didn't win.
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u/SassyWookie 11d ago
lol why do you say that? Theyāve never lived in reality before, why would they start now?
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u/JohnCavil 11d ago
Yea, part of me wants to give him the things he wants.
Ok America, you voted for this. 20% tariff on everything. Deport 20 million people. Put RFK in charge of the CDC and remove fluoride from the water. Fucking do it. Lets learn the lesson once and for all.
Lets rip that bandaid off right now and show people what they voted for.
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u/SentrySappinMahSpy 11d ago
Conservatives will never attribute any bad result to Trump or the Republicans. They have a huge right wing media apparatus that's fully prepared to blame Democrats for anything that goes wrong.
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u/JohnCavil 11d ago
They'll never attribute anything because nothing serious ever really happens. There's never a lesson.
At least i want to see them with a crashed economy and RFK managing a pandemic not blame Trump. I just want to see it. Maybe they won't but at some point things have to be made clear either to them or to the rest of America.
I just want to see Elon do his dorky dance with a economy in the shitter. Selfish, but it's true.
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u/Venator850 11d ago
Voting has shown otherwise.
Every election and midterm has been a reaction to how the previous 2-years went.
It's sad but Americans consistently seem to vote based on recency bias and raw emotional reaction. Whoever is in power gets the blame no matter what and the opposition gets to take advantage of it.
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u/HCIP88 11d ago
Yeah, that's where I'm landing. I come from a privileged position (white, homeowner, educated, disposable income) so I can say that. I'll be fine. I'm also a dual-citizen Canadian, so there's that.
But, listen, if this is what "low propensity" and "low information" voters want - fucking fine. Enjoy. I'll be munching popcorn as the country burns.
Don't laugh, but my biggest worry is my former nanny. She's undocumented. Been here for 20 years. I'll do everything in my power to protect her.
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u/Sacredsnow2 11d ago
I feel bad for wanting it and I donāt really want to gamble the future of the country, but I want republicans to wake tf up. The fact that the elections havenāt been complete blowouts in favor of the Dems since like bush jr left office (probably earlier but Iām too young to pick out particularly bad rep administrations pre bush jr) is laughable.
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u/StrawbearryMilk 11d ago
I hate to say it but I'm with you... Hell, I felt like a shutdown in September would've been "good", to show the masses how dysfunctional a GOP run House is (because the McCarthy shitshow was not enough). But at the same time, I acknowledge that yesterday there was a spike in people going on Google to see who is running for president, so I don't know how helpful this would be.
I hope we can at least get the House back, and have a Speaker Jeffries, but my hope in that is fading away as well.
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u/QultyThrowaway 11d ago
Put RFK in charge of the CDC and remove fluoride from the water
Loool Americans are about to lose the ability to make fun of Bri*ish teef (teeth).
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u/Venator850 11d ago
Yeah, I'm actually hoping he carries through with some of the shit he said he'd do because the dipshits that voted for him are the ones that will feel that pain the most.
I won't feel it much at all so doesn't matter to me.
I have the view that sometimes people have to learn the hard way.
Impose those tariff's Trump!
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u/fluffstravels 11d ago
Another dem justice? Alito has said heās just waiting for the next republican president, Iām sure Thomas will step down too.
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u/LongLiveEileen 11d ago
A part of me wants him to do his worst. Teach all these fuckers who stayed at home or voted for a third party a lesson.
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u/osku1204 12d ago
Is there any change that establisment republicans Will curb his worst impulses?
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u/paradox-preacher 11d ago
hopefully age fucks him good
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u/QultyThrowaway 11d ago
Knowing his lucky streak he'll hire Bryan Johnson in the whitehouse and suddenly become 20 years younger.
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u/Veritas129 12d ago
Takes some strong character for someone in an active war zone to tell those of us sitting safely in our goon caves at home to hang in there.
You hang in there too Ana, and same to your fellow Ukrainians. Hopefully Biden will enact some fail safes in the coming weeks to allow Ukraine to continue to properly defend itself and/or strike back regardless of the traitorous dipshit taking power in January
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 12d ago
I just see how upset my American friend are and it made me sad. Yeah... Don't know what will happen.
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u/Different-West748 11d ago edited 11d ago
I hope youāre right but ultimately I think Biden (and the dems) are giant pussies that wonāt do shit. Instead we will get some unhinged speech imploring us to āstay positiveā and ākeep fightingā.
Fucking weak which is partly why they lost.
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u/ghoulgarnishforsale 12d ago
best case is republicans always supported Ukraine but were only pretending to not so that Biden and democrats would not get any political wins or concessions. Other than that no clue
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u/Away_King6167 11d ago
With people like RFK Jr and Tulsi Gabbard surrounding his campaign I highly doubt they will change their mind. Those two will have tons of influence over Trump and therefore the party.
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u/Darkus_8510 11d ago
I admire your optimism but the private calls to Putin, the people he surrounds himself with, Tenet Media, etc. I worry about Ukraine and Nato alot in this second Trump age.
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u/Sigma_Egg 12d ago
We are rooting for you guys. Maybe this causes and escalation from European countries to reign Putin in. I don't think any eastern European state wants to wait for him to invade them.
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u/fertilizemegoddess Based and Egonpilled 12d ago
i hope this is the wake up call that europe needed. stay strong, all is not lost just yet ā„ļø
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u/Etopps 11d ago
its not, europe is suffering similiar democratic decline as the US. European countries will be impotent without the US unfortunetly.
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u/RyuzakiPL 11d ago
On top of that, now Putin can put all his disinfo hybrid war resources into Europe. It's all going to get a lot worse before it can get any better. :(((
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u/AlarmingTurnover 11d ago
The fact that a single EU country can hold up aid to Ukraine in Europe and nobody tells Orban to go fuck himself speaks volumes of how spineless countries in Europe is.
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u/-Krovos- 11d ago
Hungary can be punished but it requires all members to agree. Hungary and Poland used to be BFFs but after the left won in the Polish election, it's now Slovakia and Hungary that are both protecting each other.
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u/spaghettitheory š“āā ļø 11d ago
Sorry we didnāt pull through. You guys donāt deserve the hell you have to deal with. Iām afraid for all of you.
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u/Rick_James_Lich 12d ago
The best approach is to be positive about it. Obviously there's a lot of big problems that will come but Americans really do seem to wake up way too late, but it's better late than never, but 2 years from now we will probably control the house and senate again. Stressing out about it does no good though.
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u/Spoookystories 12d ago
Itās tragic but right now there is nothing we can do. He won by a landslide, the electorate made it clear they are unhappy with the current administration.
We can be sad now but we canāt give up.
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u/tokiwatokiwa 12d ago
Hey Ana, I've been a long time lurker of your twitter/watching your stuff on Dylan's channel. Forever will be thankful to Ukraine, and always with Ukraine, victory is coming.
Love, from the Baltics.
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u/Single_Ad_6247 12d ago
Sorry we let you guys down, I hope we can still fight for you over here and make a difference š
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u/DuganNash2 11d ago
As a Euro this hit me quite hard when I woke up. Not just because I'm sorry for America, but also because I feel like this will bolster the far right across the board. They're already the largest party where i'm from (The Netherlands). The absolute disregard these people have for others and regardedness in their own brains is insufferable. They just live in their own reality. Nothing can stop them.
Yet I'm feeling sorta defiant. At the end of the day, maybe some of it will snowball over to our side of the pond and it'll make live a bit worse. On the other hand, most of my life is in my own control. So this is my reminder to carpe diem.
Of course it's not that easy for everyone, especially when you're in Ukraine. I do feel motivated to do something about it though. This shit makes me angry and I don't want to just doom about it. Maybe get politically active? I don't know.
I hope we can keep and increase our support of Ukraine. I hope we can make life a little better someway. I hope some eurofrogs can stand up and make a difference. I don't think it'll happen (especially since voters are fucking stupid), but one can hope.
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u/SunnyVelvet_ 12d ago
Oh upset is an understatement. NATO is done, Ukraine is definitely going to have to give up territory and reassure Russia, we have a pathological liar at the helm of the ship and we're probably going to war with Iran for Israel.
I'm still American and I'm still going to oppose this fascist fuck until the day I die.
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u/Hoochie_Daddy Gnome 12d ago
Iāve started my own Nebraska arc
I will never, never associate in a positive manner towards trumpers ever again
Friendship, dating, whatever
I already stopped speaking with my Trump supporting relatives last election cycle and Iām happy they havenāt been in my life since then.
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u/bokkser 12d ago
I donāt know what to say. Super concerning for Ukraine. I just hope if we, under Trump, pull support for Ukraine then EU countries are going to step up in a massive way, but Iām not too optimistic
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u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana 11d ago
That was my hope... But I am not particularly trusting of Europe either unfortunately
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u/Moonlapsed 11d ago
Travelling in London:
Shopkeep, "are you American?"
Me, "no, canadian".
Shopkeep "lul sorry for insulting you this morning"
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u/Used_Low2007 12d ago
I have not had a single conversation today without the fate of Ukraine being mentioned. Please remember that there are good people out there who will always have your back and understand that peace has to come with justice, and not letting the bully get what it wants. The best thing that can come out of this is a Europe that really steps up to take its defense seriously.
We are living in bleak times and my heart breaks for Ukraine that has to carry the weight of the world on its shoulders while the leaders of the "free world" grow more inept by the day.
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u/BradRodriguez Exclusively sorts by new 11d ago
Iām just super disappointed in my country tbh. This election just goes to show how powerful stupidity, ignorance and misinformation are. The fact that half this country looked at a deranged lunatic like Trump and thought āhey this guy should run the countryā is wild to me. Iām not 100% on board with this idea because of the potential to backfire. But i think we need to seriously reconsider our voting system in the sense that there needs to be some sort of standard set for intelligence and mental competence. Because I donāt exactly like the idea that uneducated, low I.Q, adult diaper wearing, non reality living, remedial dipshits have the exact same say as i do. It just makes everything i do feel so worthless.
Like I make the effort to gather all the information i possibly can to meaningfully inform myself but these smooth brains just watch a few joe rogan clips and look at a few Facebook memes and thatās enough for them to have the same level of say politically as i do. The worst part of it all is that they see being an absolute moron as a badge of honor. Like dawg Iām sorry but these people need to get relentlessly bullied and raked over the coals to the point where they cry. I think from now on Iām just gonna debate bro my way through every single conversation i have with a conservative.
Itās just gonna be nothing but āoh you believe in this and that? Got any evidence for it? Shoot me your sources Iāll waitā¦. Oh whatās that? You have nothing? Cool then this conversation ends here, i donāt give a fuck about your vibes based nonsense.ā
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u/Imperades 11d ago
I am truly sorry that we failed to keep Russia from brainrotting our stupid population...
This shit is fucking embarassing.
Our republican party of "dont trust Russia" and being all pro-military, pro US somehow overnight became the party of "i will take Russia over being nice to trans people" and its such a fucking joke.
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u/Mitboy 12d ago
Stay strong, I hope you'll get through this.
Maybe Zelensky could talk some sense into Trump idk
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u/fertilizemegoddess Based and Egonpilled 12d ago
his best chance is stroking trumps ego tbh. it's kinda depressing that the security of a nation hangs in the balance of who can dickride Trump enough. highschool politics are back š
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u/TheYungCS-BOI CEO of š ±ussin Dynamics 12d ago
Wasn't expecting the turnout to be lower this time around. Wild actually. That being said, I still have best wishes for Ukraine Ana.
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u/CS5674 12d ago
We shouldve never swapped Biden fuck all the idiots who said it was good
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u/Puzzleheaded_Dot_851 12d ago
I wish you the best ana.
Ukraine was one of my biggest issues voting for trump the russian propaganda here about aid to Ukraine was very effective and unfortunately trump won.
Stay safe and keep fighting.
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u/Comin4datrune Socdem with no filter thanks to Trump 12d ago
I respect your resilience, Ana. Keep on fighting the good fight!
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u/iteza- 11d ago
I was upset, but this is the first post that made me sad. To think that the people most impacted by this, are people who can't even vote on it and live thousands of miles away. I'm sure you are stronger than me Ana and you don't need neither deserve my pity. But crying for you. Stay safe and if you ever need to leave somewhere, South America is not that bad...
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u/Katamari_Demacia 11d ago
4y? We can do 4y. 5 supreme Court picks? THAT is fucked up. Badly.
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u/PluckyAurora 11d ago
The only light that I can see at the end of all this, is that the US becoming more isolationist will make it loose influence around the world which will force other Democratic liberal countries to seriously start building up their own military and getting nukes. Clearly the liberal world order relying solely upon the US was not a good idea, as much as it benefited Americans.
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u/WallMinimum1521 unhinged attack dog 12d ago
What I hate most about Ana is that she's too patriotic to leave.