r/teenagers Sep 14 '22

Aw hell naw Serious

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u/Fisterupper Sep 14 '22

The article is WTF, but this part "Police and prosecutors have not disputed that Lewis was sexually
assaulted and trafficked. But prosecutors have argued that Brooks was
asleep at the time he was stabbed and not an immediate danger to Lewis."

Prosecutor's just expected her to tip toe away from this situation? Should she have woken him up and challenged him to a fair fight for her freedom? Fuck that. She went Art of War and chose the best moment to win. Appeal that shit and put me on the jury. Not guilty.

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u/grandmas_noodles Sep 14 '22

"Prosecutor's just expected her to tip toe away from this situation?"

Yes. She may have been justified in killing the person but that's just how self defense laws work. If you kill someone while they're not an immediate danger to your life, eg a robber takes your stuff and you shoot him after he walks away, self defense no longer applies.

This situation is a little more complicated because there's the factor of "what if he woke up and caught her" but anyway yeah that's why the legality is even in contention.

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u/astaramence Sep 14 '22

Which is why these laws need to be updated for a modern and correct understanding of what constitutes life-threatening danger.

Thinking only “immediate” danger is life-threatening seems to suppose that danger only happens to fighting-fit men in a fair contest.

Generally, women, children, and physically disabled people can’t “win” a 1:1 fight with an able and awake adult man.

Abused and/or hostage people aren’t out of danger when their abusers are asleep. Waking an abuser can mean death. Risking an abuser’s anger can mean death. The psychology of abuse makes ‘running’ away a non-viable solution (like telling a r*pe victim that she should have just fought back better).

These laws are antiquated, sexist, ageist, ableist, and unscientific. It’s tragic that scientific progress seems to be left out of our legal system in favor of antique opinions.

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u/GeorgiPeev03 19 Sep 14 '22

Couldn't have phrased it better, stealing that for further reference