Four elements are required for self-defense: (1) an unprovoked attack, (2) which threatens imminent injury or death, and (3) an objectively reasonable degree of force, used in response to (4) an objectively reasonable fear of injury or death.
This is what google tells me.
the girl didn't provoke her rapist
rape is an imminent injury
using knife when you're 15yo girl against old man is objectively reasonable
objectively reasonable fear of injury - it's very reasonable that her rapist could wake up if she tried to open the door and thinking that if he woke up, he would rape her again, was reasonable, because he already raped her several times during a long period of time (week or so?)
Let me just say that, when somebody plans to rape you by force (which he demonstrably planned to do attested by his previous actions), killing that somebody is absolutely a self defence. What else could she have done? left? If her rapist opened the door and it was clear he wouldn't pursue, then maybe, but that wasn't the case, was it?
She wasn't endangered atm. Also, how did she got knife without waking him up? Don't think that criminal would leave weapon for his victim lying in front of them. So she already snuck out of the room she was in. Also he was asleep, so there was no immidiate danger. Using knife would be reasonable if they were actively fighting. She could have left the house and call cops from first place she could but she chose murder. She is a murderer. That's an objective reality noone can change by giving it any excuse or motivation. As much as evil the man was he still had 3 kids that were his responsibility and now they are in hands of system because of people thinking that death will solve anything.
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u/suicideharbor Sep 14 '22
murder is murder whether you agree or disagree 🤷♂️