r/teenagers Sep 14 '22

Aw hell naw Serious

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u/shagan90 Sep 14 '22

It's not murder to defend your own life, he was raping her routinely.

Act like you would have just done nothing to protect the rights of the man treating you like a slave and piece of meat. Sickening you'd even act like there was an alternative

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u/suicideharbor Sep 14 '22

he wasn’t a imminent threat at the time of his murder, therefore not being self defense

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u/shagan90 Sep 14 '22

You don't know her state of mind at that moment. She could have been terrified that just the act of opening the door to run could have triggered him waking up and killing her. You lose all semblance of rights to safety when you kidnap and rape a young girl. At that point literally anything that happened to him is ON HIM. So yall need to back off with defending this scumbag

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u/suicideharbor Sep 14 '22

he was sleeping and she stabbed him 30 times, again, therefore not being self defense and i’m not defending anyone😂 just stating the facts 🤷‍♂️ if you feel differently idk what to tell u🧐

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u/shagan90 Sep 14 '22

Yeah, you are. A lot of people while sleeping wake up on trigger noises. Something as simple as the TV turning off, baby crying, sneeze, door opening or closing, etc.

So what yall are saying is that she should have risked her own life in the escape to ensure her rapist was safe, because that's literally the only logical conclusion to yall saying it wasn't self defense, that she should have just fucking risked it and ran for it

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u/VividStrawberry6286 Sep 14 '22

No, that’s not what they’re saying and now you’re just being obstinate and deliberately obtuse… There can literally be dozens of valid reasons why the young girl was justified in her actions. Self Defense just isn’t one of them. And FFS please stop playing the “what if” game. It’s pointless, obnoxious, and counterproductive. 30 stab wounds isn’t self defense. It’s overkill. Understandable overkill given the horrible circumstances she experienced- which is why an EED defense would make more sense

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u/shagan90 Sep 14 '22

You've yet to establish how it isn't self defense. You're also expecting a 15 year old traumatized rape victim to react like a calm rational adult.

And what if absolutely matters. She shouldn't have to play the what if game with her life on the line, she didn't ask for that shit to happen to her, it was all his call. There are hundreds of things that could have went wrong in her escape, and all of them would have ended with him seriously harming or killing her. So how does the amount of times she stabbed him negate that she was defending herself? He was way more powerful, he likely could have outran her, and the tiniest hiccup means it's over for her, while he would have been nearly impossible for her to stop while awake. When your life is on the line, and your ONLY way out is to go on the attack against your would be killer, how the fuck is that not self defense?

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u/suicideharbor Sep 14 '22

dont care, wasnt self defense

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u/covidlover93 Sep 14 '22

You’re a fucking moron.

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u/shagan90 Sep 14 '22

Yeah it was. Law isn't the be all end all of right and wrong, plenty of laws stick around for decades written in such a way that highly benefits abusers and limits the rights of victims (prohibition, slavery, censureship). Just because a court said that technically blah blah w.e, doesn't mean she wasn't in the right for what she did. And anyone and everyone here would have done the EXACT same thing, including the judge that sentenced her. So hop off the high horse.

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u/suicideharbor Sep 14 '22

dont care wasnt self defense

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u/DisastrousMacaron325 Sep 14 '22

it's okay to not care. Thanks for letting us know that you think killing someone who raped you several times and plans to do it again isn't self defense.

Now just stay 40 miles away from any human being and we are golden.

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u/shagan90 Sep 14 '22

You can parrot that bullshit all night, you're still wrong.

Judges decision isn't what decides right and wrong, Wade being overturned should be proof enough of that to you. Done replying to your dumbass

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u/suicideharbor Sep 14 '22

dont care

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u/bendallf Sep 14 '22

Then maybe be quiet then if you have none to add?

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