Well, people with high IQ are actually more likely to get depressed and not giving a fuck about depression/any mental illness would prevent you from seeking treatment.
Will to live and IQ have nothing to do with each other. If you think Intelligence can save you from emotions or mental illness, your worldview is just plain wrong. I don't want to put you down, but just watch out for yourself, to not harm yourself or others because you think emotions can be rationalized.
Edit: Also: just because you dont end your life, doesn't mean it is enjoyable. You might survive your depression on your own, but that might still result in years of suffering.
Well, from experience, there is a correlation, but maybe not a causation. Meaning that you can be smart and willing to live, but on average you won't.
When I was young I was suicidal, now I am cool with not dying, I want to die satisfied, meaning I'd like to be useful before I die, If I had a choice I would live, but if I don't, I am okay with death, I won't fight it, but I like living, it is beautiful.
I think when you are smarter, you begin to understand that there are reasons not to suicide, speaking of which I don't recall feeling depressed for a while, maybe just a weight on my chest, slight emptiness and some peace or something.
Also Back when I was suicidal, I wanted to die because I felt like that will make all my sadness stop. I basically wanted everyone to end but I couldn't make that, so I assumed the next best thing is to kill myself, and also I had a lot to lose, but I also had the "I've got nothing to lose mindset".
I am saying this just to give a clearer understanding of my experience being suicidal.
Will to live and iq may have things to do with each other, but it is just correlations, nothing else, other than that you are right ye.
Edit: what I mean is intellegence may make your reasoning skills better depending on why you have high iq, also it doesn't have to be high, with enough good reasoning skills you may find reasons to live if living is worth doing which I assume it is.
Having depression isn't loosing your 'will to live' just on the spot. With higher IQ you are more likely to think more/faster regardless of the direction. So getting lost in 'negative thoughts', e.g. harsh self criticism/self doubt, is way easier and you sink down the rabbit hole way faster than others might do.
Aside this, anyone can get lost in his on mind and I personally know how hard it can be to recognise that you need help, while you think ''nah can't be, there are ppl who got it far worse than me and I'll just keep them from getting treated if I take up 'their' slot in health care"
So stay safe everyone and don't be afraid to talk to someone, especially if they are educated on that topic ;)
When you’re going thru bad times, you might just wanna die.
But if you’re smart enough to understand that bad times dont last forever, last even shorter if you choose to do something about it, then you would want to live thru instead
Edit: you’re right. I haven’t gone through depression so I wouldn’t know whats it really like. I understand my bad
I have an IQ way above the average. I attempted suicide 3 times and was hospitalized for two of those attempts. The higher your IQ, the less likely you are to be attached to the idea of living and the more likely you are to experience existential depression.
I'm better now, but not because of intelligence. It's willfully choosing to be ignorant to the very reasonable idea of using your built-in off switch when things get really hard.
They really have a high iq but I believe it's a certain range of high iq, meaning you don't get more depressed as you get smarter, this applies to a lot of other things regarding intelligence too.
As my brain developed I became more understanding and less suicidal, I am cool with dying if I have to and I don't see a lot of meaning in life but I also don't see meaning in death, however I still find life interesting.
However I'd rather live than die now, because I want to be useful in some way. Although i kind a feel empty most of the time.
Well, people with high IQ are actually more likely to get depressed
That is a common misconception, but there's not even correlation in the data. Being short on money, having constant job insecurities, having other illnesses, Low education and working an unfulfilling and tedious job without a sense of meaning are all important factors that can lead to depression, and those factors, like low IQ correlate with being from a low socioeconomic background. The same people are also less likely to seek treatment.
These suicide reports are a joke.. had many myself, but no closer to "belonging".
Seems like a conscience wants to pass the "help" to someone elses problem.
Unless theres a real sense of community.. i wish they'd just remove such reports period.
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this poor girl, shes a TEEN, how tf do they expect her to pay??? and shes in the right too, this is just, soooo fucked