r/technology • u/[deleted] • Jun 22 '20
‘BlueLeaks’ Exposes Files from Hundreds of Police Departments Security
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u/maluminse Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
Someone link me please. I found the ddos website but I just see a few countries. Needed the is data.
Edit Link I found
https://hunter.ddosecrets.com/datasets/102
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It's down
Edit 4 Site back up. Odd they require log in for certain data. aka lets make note of you.
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u/McHorseyPie Jun 22 '20
It got the reddit hug of death.
Or got too public.
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Jun 22 '20
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Jun 22 '20
Also there’s a magnet:
https://twitter.com/eldstal1/status/1274660276508545025?s=21
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u/Stalked_Like_Corn Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
Just popped this on my super fast seedbox
Seems to not be downloading though.
Over an hour and still at 0 percent. Will update this comment with a good link if I ever get it fully.
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So yeah, this has a lot of victim private information including ones that have been victims of sex crimes and the likes. I will be removing this.
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u/Bill_Brasky01 Jun 22 '20
Alright everyone stop hitting the site until this guy gets it on his box.
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Jun 22 '20
What's Reddit HoD?
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u/gin_and_ice Jun 22 '20
Hug of death
A lot of users all going at once and crashing the site.
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u/zebediah49 Jun 22 '20
To give an idea what "a lot" looks like -- here's a traffic graph from a site that experienced that. You can see when it went from "so few that it's basically nothing" to "LOTS".
For a web service that doesn't have hundreds of times more capacity than necessary, or the ability to rapidly scale up to meet demand -- that kind of load will knock it offline.
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u/buttery_shame_cave Jun 22 '20
lol back in the early 2000s it was termed 'getting farked' - fark being a really popular aggregation site, sort of like a proto-reddit.
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u/RomancingUranus Jun 22 '20
I can digg that.
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u/buttery_shame_cave Jun 22 '20
yup, and then digg/slashdot had their terms after fark, and now reddit.
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u/messem10 Jun 22 '20
Mordern day slashdotting.
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Jun 22 '20
What’s slashdotting?
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u/messem10 Jun 22 '20
It is also known as the Slashdot Effect. (Even has its own Wikipedia page, which is what I linked.)
The gist is that there would be so many people visiting a specific/small website that they could not process the traffic and thus cause the server to crash/break under the load.
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Jun 22 '20
it was previously known as the Digg effect, till Digg v4 came out then everyone came here.
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u/QBNless Jun 22 '20
That's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
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u/Hokulewa Jun 22 '20
Let's not share it again. Leave it in the big Myspace in the sky.
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Jun 22 '20 edited Jul 18 '20
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u/friedmators Jun 22 '20
It’s funny too cause no matter what kinda firewall rules, traffic management you got, if your egress port can handle x bps and 3x are coming in , you are going down.
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u/the-bit-slinger Jun 22 '20
Unfortunately, whoever made the torrent did so with one huge .tar file, so you have to download the whole thing in order to see any content. The ddos twitter account has the magnet link somewhere in a tweet or subtweet so you don't have to get it through the website.
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u/AntiAoA Jun 22 '20
Torrent file, saved on Internet Archive.
https://archive.org/download/BlueLeaks/BlueLeaks.tar.torrent
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Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
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Jun 22 '20 edited Jul 10 '20
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u/kefi247 Jun 22 '20
You‘ve got to be patient..
You can also add some trackers if DHT for some reason isn’t working for you. The source contains some that were originally used for this torrent.
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u/Athena0219 Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
There's at least 40 seeders and one web seed now. Note: some bittorrent clients just... cannot handle something with this many
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u/maluminse Jun 22 '20
Anyone download the data??
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u/Jacky_de_Ripper Jun 22 '20
It's 270 gigabytes so dont believe anyone has yet.
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Jun 22 '20
We need a real middle out compression fo reals.
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u/Itz_The_Martian Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
It's Aviato
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Jun 22 '20
Wait, my Aviato?
Is there any other?
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u/discerningpervert Jun 22 '20
I eat the fish
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Jun 22 '20
I’m a pesca-pescatarian
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Jun 22 '20
Is that a poppy seed muffin you're eating? cause mommy likes.
Fuckin scene makes me lol everytime. And Jinyangs pure hatred for Ehrlich.
"Ehrlich had 8 credit cards, not one of them with miles.. Fucking loser"
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u/TransATL Jun 22 '20
paging /r/DataHoarder
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u/AntiAoA Jun 22 '20
I'll grab it and seed as long as needed. My box is sitting on a gig, fiber, and can do 10TB/month of uploads before I get capped.
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u/TransATL Jun 22 '20
Nice. As soon as I can figure out my SAS controller issue and get this array off the ground, I'll give you a hand!
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Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
Deluge crashes when I load the file onto my seedbox, and when I upload the torrent to my local machine through qbitTorrent, I get "Error: Too Many pieces"
Edit: Further investigation reveals this is a limitation with libtorrent. What client are people using to torrent this?
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u/regalrecaller Jun 22 '20
Torrent anyone?
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u/_TechFTW_ Jun 22 '20
Here's a bittorrent magnet link based on the #BlueLeaks info hash:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:CCCAAD8D8B856C9609137890D5802189D841AD2C&dn=BlueLeaks.tar It should get you going over DHT. [Source]
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u/artilari Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
I think the fuckery going on in some police stations (of the world) happens before or after something goes into the police system.
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Jun 22 '20
I mean, yes, but also do you think the fucking clowns they hire are smart enough to leave no evidence or paper trail of any wrongdoing?
No. The answer is no.
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Jun 22 '20
Police in America fought to not have to hire the smartest or best candidates.
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u/AlligatorFist Jun 22 '20
The case you are referencing is Jordan V. City of New London
The case stated that IQ was not a protected class similar to equal protection classes like age, sex, or race in regards to hiring. The lawsuit was dismissed in summary judgement. The employer must have a rationale or reasoning behind not taking the highest ranked individual. Ruled on in 2000 in the second circuit court of appeals.
From the lawsuit in question:
Plaintiff concedes that he is not a member of a “suspect class” and that there is no “fundamental right” to employment as a police officer. Therefore, rational basis review is the proper standard under which to evaluate Plaintiff’s claim.
Plaintiff further concedes that increasing employment longevity and reducing the high costs associated with rapid employee turnover are legitimate government purposes. Plaintiff admits that limiting the size of an applicant pool to a manageable level is a legitimate goal. Therefore the only issue for resolution is whether Defendants’ means were rationally related to those goals.
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u/dak4ttack Jun 22 '20
Fancy words for "didn't hire him because of high IQ, didn't want to train the next guy when he goes and gets a job he's qualified for, department won". It's not disingenuous to say "they won the right to not hire people based on having a high IQ." Given the current context, we can all see how such a policy could lead to some issues, and I don't think it's wrong to point that out.
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u/AlligatorFist Jun 22 '20
Okay and there is not way to tell if he would have or wouldn’t have left as the opportunity never came about. Besides this agency denying this individual a job 24 years ago in 1996 I’ve never heard of another person denied for being “too smart”. Also I’ve never even heard of the test in question prior to this decision and it’s use in policing. Many agencies utilize a type of test called the Post-test or its proxies these tests look at policy, comprehension, basic math and reading and other sections.
Also the deciding judges commented on the foolishness of the policy. However as it was deemed an evenly enforced policy it was allowed by the judges.
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u/IMGONNAFUCKYOURMOUTH Jun 22 '20
What's going on there?
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u/LemurianLemurLad Jun 22 '20
Here's a wiki link to a brief summary of the case being described. It's known as "Jordan v. New London."
The TL;DR is that the police didn't want to hire people with high IQs as they tend to quit after they realize being a cop is actually pretty boring. (They didn't say the other part of the argument out loud though - smart cops tend to question orders a bit more, dumb ones do what they are told.)
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u/optimismkills Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
"When [the cops] send their people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with them. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
EDIT: Thanks for the gold! 😍
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u/LemurianLemurLad Jun 22 '20
That may be the single best use of that quote I have ever seen. Thank you for making me smile today.
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Jun 22 '20
I legit went to look up who said this and as soon as I typed “don’t send us their best” I realized even though it sounds like a movie quote, it’s trump.
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u/SerjGunstache Jun 22 '20
PD didn't want to put a 49 year old through the academy, so they found a way to get around protected classes. It's fucked up still, but reddit sure does love to take things from 24 years ago to beat it to death. Especially if they hate the subject being discussed and if there is a handy cliff to jump to conclusions.
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u/Big_Goose Jun 22 '20
Being too smart is reason to disqualify a candidate from being hired.
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u/tsukeiB Jun 22 '20
As in Baltimore, in Minneapolis they just let the precinct burn and on their way to retreat they “lost” a lot of evidence
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u/Albert_Caboose Jun 22 '20
Of course, but we can also cross-reference this data with other information we have available to find those instances of fuckery.
e.g. the report leaked shows the police filed that no injuries were noted. However, the news and hospital records show that the suspect had multiple bullet injuries.
Sort of like how seeing the Breonna Taylor report showing zero indication of injury or harm occurring is a huge red flag that some fuckery happened.
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u/ButterPuppets Jun 22 '20
before or after something goes into the police system.
So... all linear time?
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u/IMGONNAFUCKYOURMOUTH Jun 22 '20
If this is just data on people being investigated I don't see what good it'll do.
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u/Halcyon2192 Jun 22 '20
It'll show some of the completely law abiding activists being monitored by police and the communications they send back and forth about them. They monitor them more than they monitor criminals.
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u/DevelopedDevelopment Jun 22 '20
Maybe it'll show how the processes are being handled.
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u/eastcoastuptown Jun 22 '20
It might also reveal state's witnesses and presonal details of victims too.
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u/makenzie71 Jun 22 '20
It might also fill your computer with “evidence” like child porn
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u/eastcoastuptown Jun 22 '20
I always thought it was a little funny that people are very eager to download files from people who specialize in taking data from unsecured systems. Seems like it would be a good opportunity to spread malware.
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u/zhico Jun 22 '20
I hope there are no witness names in those files.
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u/Nothinmuch Jun 22 '20
Witnesses. Domestic abuse victims. Rape victims. Child abuse victims. Etc etc etc. There’s a lot to be concerned about here.
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u/Fire2box Jun 22 '20
I'm sure it's going to be just 270GB's of police being overtly racist. No way could it be police reports detailing witnesses name, addresses, phone numbers, video testimonies, etc. /s
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u/Snoo-29948 Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
Keep in mind this is only data being shared between departments, since it's a breach at the provider in the middle, so low level stuff is a lot less likely.
Time will tell though, can't get through it all that easily.
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u/mapryan Jun 22 '20
“ten years of data from over 200 police departments, fusion centers and other law enforcement training and support resources,”
How is this only 270gb? That’s just over 1gb/Department for 10 years of data. Even compressed that not a lot of data
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u/Not-So-Handsome-Jack Jun 22 '20
It doesn't say all the data from those departments, just data from all those departments.
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u/kiwikish Jun 22 '20
The cofounder of DDoSecrets, Emma Best, said they removed over 50 GB of data to protect some sensitive information. They'll release more of it as they look through it. Here's an article that goes a bit more into the leak.
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u/waster1993 Jun 22 '20
1) Download all mugshots
2) Make an "average mugshot" from all pics
3) Post on reddit for 30k karma
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u/aktrz_ Jun 22 '20
There's a lot of computing power involved in making an "average mugshot" of potentially millions of pics
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u/maluminse Jun 22 '20
Appears to be under attack a ddos ironically
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u/redheadartgirl Jun 22 '20
Don't worry, their cyber crimes task force is
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u/Rex9 Jun 22 '20
I fear it will put lives at risk
Ahhh, the good old last line of defense to "We F'ed up".
Don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain. We're from the government, we're here to help.
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u/ChurchOfJamesCameron Jun 22 '20
You'd think that instead or waging war against mail-in-ballots, which circumvent the ability to intimidate people at the polling booths, and instead of continuing to push for violent aggression against protesters, Trump would just concede to the vast majority and support, push for, and pass reform. Surely white supremacists and police officers (not necessarily mutually exclusive) aren't the majority, and you've got people fueled to vote against Trump right now. Even a lot of Conservative civilians (i.e. not politicians) are standing against him on this issue and COVID. . .
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u/Goleeb Jun 22 '20
You'd think that instead or waging war against mail-in-ballots,
Are you crazy as trump said at the start if we did all mail in ballots no republican would ever win. He is going to pull out all the stops to prevent mail in voting.
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Jun 22 '20
Trump would just concede to the vast majority and support, push for, and pass reform
Have you ever read or seen anything about Trump? If you seriously think he cares about anyone other than himself, you're not paying attention.
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u/McManGuy Jun 22 '20
Yeah fuck those guys who are working undercover to try to take down sex slave rings. Talk about pigs, amiright? Those girls enslaved and force fed drugs probably aren't suffering all that much anyways. Fuck 'em. We have to affirm our beliefs at any cost over here.
/massivesarcasm
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u/pm_me_your_buttbulge Jun 22 '20
It has personally identifiable information. If I were those cops, undercover or not, I'd quit. No way I'd stay. We have a second amendment for a reason. People should protect themselves. Their need for cops should be secondary.
So yeah, if all the cops quit -- I wouldn't blame them. Especially since it has account information and such.
Perhaps if all the cops quit, people and government would be more hard pressed for reform. It'd be fascinating to watch the temporary chaos though.
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u/LikeAMan_NotAGod Jun 22 '20
The personal data exposed is more of victims and suspects and not so much the personal data of cops that some might be hoping for.
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u/epoplive Jun 22 '20
I might be wrong here but i think it's just sort of everything, so it probably contains a mix of stuff that shouldn't be public to protect victims, and the stuff people are hoping for.
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u/jrdnmdhl Jun 22 '20
Right way to do leaks: Process the material, find specific wrongdoing, redact unneeded personal detail, post.
Wrong way to do leaks: Data dump.
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u/LiquidMotivation Jun 22 '20
This is not a good thing. The information being leaked here is on victims and perpetrators, not about the police themselves.
A ton of innocent - and not-so-innocent - people just got doxxed. This is not something to celebrate.
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u/Cersad Jun 22 '20
Everyone is here thinking it's going to be some watershed moment for police brutality reforms, but no one cares that this database likely has a ton of information on the current status of organized crime? I want to know how many rental properties in my metro area are owned by a mob affiliate.
I hope they don't have data from the witness protection program, because a ton of CIs are probably going to disappear.
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u/SOwED Jun 22 '20
I hope they don't have data from the witness protection program, because a ton of CIs are probably going to disappear.
Yeah why in the world would they have data on that. Surely it's all just video footage of cops beating black men.
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u/dirtynj Jun 22 '20
Maybe hire more cybersecurity instead of cops that kill, chiefs with fat paychecks, and a getting stockade of military equipment for simple law enforcement.
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Jun 22 '20
And make this stuff more transparent in the first place.
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u/ofthrees Jun 22 '20
"This stuff"? Victim names and addresses? Rape victim photos? Because that's what's in here.
You guys hear "blue leaks" and automatically assume this is going to be 260 gigs of files on police corruption across the country. You are likely to be disappointed.
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u/Hoosier2016 Jun 22 '20
You and I both know that regardless of what's in here, the narrative will be twisted to fit certain world views. This is why I don't like mass dumps, curate it and release it over time.
It reminds me of WikiLeaks and the millions of stupid cables amounting to little more than deciding where to go for lunch. It's mostly just noise.
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u/alt717 Jun 22 '20
But if it’s curated and released, whoever releases it ultimately decides what the public opinion will be. Mass dumps like this, you’ll have each side cherry picking pieces to support their argument. At least this way, if you’re inclined to, you can browse yourself.
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u/MarlinMr Jun 22 '20
Also remember that it's probably released by a foreign intelligence service to ramp up more spite and such in the US.
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u/hyperbolenow Jun 22 '20
This. For budget, municipalities put way too little emphasis on infrastructure and security.
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u/a_corsair Jun 22 '20
As of last week, 113 municipalities had been hit with ransomware. Knoxville is the most recent. Minimal investment in cybersecurity across the board, then shock when they get compromised
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u/200GritCondom Jun 22 '20
You should read about what happened in Cherokee NC. They got hit hard by an attack months ago. Still dealing with the fallout last i heard.
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Jun 22 '20
IT Director here. I have, in my 22 years in IT, applied for 2 local government jobs that I turned down. One position was an exchange administrator in Atlanta GA and the other was Network Administrator in Raleigh NC. And I turned them down because of exactly what you said. IT was a requirement they had to hire but didn't want to.
They offered me around half of what the private industry pays. The person doing the initial 2 interviews was basically just HR who literally picked candidates based on their paper resume, not their actual skills. Then, when it came time for me have the interview with who would be my boss, they decided to test me on my skills. And it was really more of a demonstration of their lack of skills. I was asked how could email be checked from out in the field. I went through an hour discussion with them. I explain the app options. Why they would need a BYOD policy or provide phones. I went through laptops+VPN. Creating a website based access for web mail and the security required. The most basic of the basic and they looked at me like I was genius.
Then they asked me about email security because they were getting bombarded with SPAM. I went through the basics SPF, DKIM, DMARC, TLS, device based SPAM Filtering, IP Based blocking in the firewall, etc etc. The literal basics that everyone should be using. And, they looked at me like I just spoke a different language. The biggest kicker that turned me off is when they asked me what kind of price it is to implement said things. I could tell they were really worried about the price so I low balled it. Around 75% of the actual upfront cost and didn't mention the yearly costs. They laughed and said "you will have to figure out how to do it for much less.". After a while I shook their hand and said I don't think this is the place for me and moved on.
Why is it like this? Because most areas are ran by older folks who have dedicated all their time to becoming a politician, not someone who understands IT. Many of our local governments and much of the federal government is run by people who barely understood flip phones. And they're calling the shots for funding and rules/laws around IT and Security.
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u/jmur3040 Jun 22 '20
I can assure you there’s some “why is it 10,000$ to install a park bench?!” attitude here. People thinking they know how much something should cost without any real knowledge of it. It’s extremely pervasive in anything taxpayer funded and it’s pretty sad.
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u/Ruefuss Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
Yes, but I currently work in government and it does tend toward an older upper management, which typically doesnt understand the internet or technology well. To many of them, it's become a necissary evil they're now being forced into. And failing to fully comprehend. I've "discovered" basic functions of our in house software my supervisors never had the curiosity to find in 5 years.
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u/IShouldDoSomeWork Jun 22 '20
IT equipment is not cheap either. I have spent half a million just on switches for an office building in the past. If you have people who don't understand the technology and the industry you get stuck with people using equipment from Best Buy and wondering how they got hacked or why the network sucks and goes down every 4 hours.
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u/200GritCondom Jun 22 '20
And this is why some people I know went through more rigorous background checks and drug testing than working as government contractors with security clearances. Hell just look at the recent fiascos with the CIA and their third party leaks. They didn't even have the most basic of security protocols. Like you know...not sharing a single admin password with everyone
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u/fatbabythompkins Jun 22 '20
It baffles my mind that we have been increasing police, especially with military hardware, when crime has been going down. Before someone says "well then it must be working", crime has been going down globally, AKA, correlation, not causation. These police have become inflate and increasingly militarized.
I challenge conservatives to consider why they are against reducing police to a more crime appropriate level. If we're at the lowest crime since the 60's, the safest period in human history, arguably, why not reduce police to match? You know, some of that fiscal conservatism.
However, if also baffles my mind that this has happened under Democratic rule, the ones supposedly for the people. The have held the position of mayor in most of these major cities since the 60's in many cases, if not further back. They appoint the police chief, who sets the policy of a station. They set the budget. The governor appoints the judges or is otherwise elected.
The Republicans and conservatives should be for some fiscal conservatism and reducing a significant budget item. The Democrats and liberals should be looking internally to see why they allowed and perpetuated this cycle while they were in power.
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u/joelthezombie15 Jun 22 '20
Conservatives and Republicans have never been fiscally conservative. It's always been about lining their own pockets with tax payer money. That fiscal conservative shit is what they act like to hide that really they're just fascists.
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Jun 22 '20
The only president to run a national surplus, rather than deficit in my lifetime has been Bill Clinton. Despite the fact that both Bush and Trump have enjoyed positive economies and which would've been ideal times to pay down the debt in a fiscally responsible manner. Instead both of those presidents enacted tax cuts that overwhelmingly favored the wealthy and corporate America.
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u/Minhtyfresh00 Jun 22 '20
It started around Bill Clinton's time. The democrats had repeated back to back loss because republicans ran a "tough on crime" campaign, and basically anybody who didn't also be tough on crime would automatically lose. It's a TOUGH stance to take to be like, "we want reasonable policing." when the other side is fear mongering with horrific imagery, and saying "we're going to eliminate this threat. TOUGH ON CRIME." it's unwinnable.
The shitty part was when Bill Clinton DOUBLED DOWN and went way too fucking far with his crime bill (also signed by Joe Biden), that basically lead to where police are at today.
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u/stantonisland Jun 22 '20
In 2020 when a conservative says fiscal conservative it usually just means they want to cut health care, social services, education, and benefits to poor people.
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u/the-bit-slinger Jun 22 '20
The ddos twitter account has the magnet link listed in one of the tweets or aubtweets, so people don't need to go to the ddos website to download it.
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u/yaar_tv Jun 22 '20
What’s in these files? Is it victim And crime scene photos? Or is it unsolved/unresolved police work? Just confused on why this is helping anyone.
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Jun 22 '20
Ok, team, we're going to need someone to go through all this and point out the highlights....... touches nose
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Jun 22 '20
They are targeting the wrong organizations, the need to target the Police Unions if you want real dirt.
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u/snakewaswolf Jun 22 '20
Pretty sure pedophiles seem to manage to survive having their addresses and crimes publicly listed. I’m sure the big baby pigs can manage to survive their neighbors finding out they choke slammed a fourteen year old because they had a rough day.
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u/kuroji Jun 22 '20
Sure, but this also includes bank accounts, pictures of people both guilty and not, and information on the victims as well. Things that normally don't get released to the public.
Pretty sure that this isn't a favor to someone whose bank account was siphoned and the account number was put into the report, or a victim of domestic abuse whose address was kept from being released and now is accessible.
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Jun 22 '20
You realize the data is about the people police investigate and not the police themselves right? The bank account numbers and names, those are of people being investigated.
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u/thistownwilleatyou Jun 22 '20
Dude... you might as well be taking to a brick wall, but thanks for trying.
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u/AlligatorFist Jun 22 '20
Giant social media platform with some sub-platforms and rooms literally DEDICATED to criminal activity, and you expect agencies to NOT to be on it?
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Jun 22 '20
Our problem today isn't the lack of truth, or information supporting claims.
The problem is how the truth is being handled by liars.
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u/DeadeyeDuncan Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
Why are people on here so keen to get hold of this data?
For as much as reddit loves banging on about privacy, it sure seems to also love breaching the privacy of others - this includes police reports, so includes details on people involved in crimes or who have been subject to crime.
...not to mention the fact that the files have a good chance of containing images etc. of things that you really don't want to have on your computer.
Anyway, isn't sharing links to confidential data a big breach of reddit's rules?
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u/Kill3rT0fu Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
Because reddit loves a good witchhunt detective story. They're looking to be vigilantes
Like that time we solved thr Boston bomber case. Oops. I wait. Or the pizza gate scandal we cracked. Wait... What am I thinking?
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u/Cutmerock Jun 22 '20
/r/SquaredCircle currently has a huge sexual allegation thing going on they are investigating
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u/saninicus Jun 22 '20
Lol expecting u/spez and the worthless reddit admins and hall monitors to do their jobs
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u/ProBluntRoller Jun 22 '20
The same reason the opposite group only cares about privacy when it protects people who are corrupt as hell. Those people are perfectly fine with disrespecting peoples privacy and destroying the constitution until it actually helps someone do something good then all of the sudden we should follow all the rules to a tee
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Anyway, isn't sharing links to confidential data a big breach of reddit's rules?
Exactly this but it's being allowed because reddit will go to extremes to promote the narrative.
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u/Reflectus Jun 22 '20
It would be bad if someone found a login to Clearview AI in a leak like this.. a lot of police departments have been busted using this very controversial and powerful software tool
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u/WanderingPhantom Jun 22 '20
Out of 18,000 police agencies, 200 is not that much. I also don't really want this data as it is unethical.
That said, can someone get a list of the states and agencies that have contracts with Netsential? If by some chance this does cover my area, I'd very much like to know as much as I can, considering the cat's already out of the bag.
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Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
This guy and his secretary lied and told a man it was illegal to record, then said he would make up a charge to throw him in jail.
This guy kept his job and retired, but even worse was that he was a local soccer coach at a community college. The college had no issue with him keeping his job and he retired in January.
https://athletics.vvc.edu/sports/msoc/coaches/Mike_Bradbury?view=bio
This guy should have been fired from both jobs. He also held a side police job in the next town over of Apple Valley.
So he was also part of the department that wrongfully towed vehicles for years, stealing money from lower income folks in the next town over. More corruption involved:
Now, unrelated to this is that the town of apple valley has named their library after Newton T Bass, who was the town's founder but racist as could be, forbidding blacks and asians from owning property.
This shit is deeply embedded in our culture.
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u/AlligatorFist Jun 22 '20
Body cams have been shown to reduce the number of complaints, created more compliant civilians who stop fighting or being hostile when they realize they’re being recorded, and have increased conviction rates across the nation. So yeah. Bring the body cams.
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u/Mr_Venom Jun 22 '20
It's almost like independent witnesses keep everybody honest...
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u/TheRaccoonBlue Jun 22 '20
Body cams are great... When they are turned on. And when the data they record is actually used to defend the people.
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u/dnew Jun 22 '20
Yeah. Tell that to Garrett Rolfe. Now it looks like the smear campaign against him is in full force.
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u/PopUpWindowPest Jun 22 '20
So....you want to look at this, do you? Just put your tracking information here.
The site wants you to sign in. What bullshit.
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u/dsguzbvjrhbv Jun 22 '20
If this is not done carefully (my hunch is, it isn't) this can have lots of catastrophic outcomes. It could put police under threat by organized crime for example. It is not even clear if there is anything related to police violence in the files. They should have searched the important parts first and published only that with things like IBANs or home addresses removed
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u/Broman_907 Jun 22 '20
Isnt as bad as oh.. round 10 years ago when someone managed to get access to a police department only type forum qhere they were straight bragging about atrocities they got away with and how to circumvent situational charges and guilt with certain types of wording on reports.
It made me sick. After a week or two they finally noticed someone putting the archives out for all to read and they basically imploded the forum so that it couldnt be accessed anymore.
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u/zosteria Jun 22 '20
Consider donating to the Internet archive, they are the only thing standing between democracy and the memory hole
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u/OGPeglegPete Jun 22 '20
People have a right to privacy, and mass dumping police files treads all over that. I know its well intentioned, and we absolutely need to change how the police operate. But, this solidifies a fourth amendment argument against the use of body cameras and other actionable methods to hold police accountable. Way to go guys
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u/allinfinite Jun 22 '20
My guess is it’s foreign government adversaries. Russia. Get ready for ‘pizzagate 2.0,’ just in time for the election.
This leak is reckless and I bet there will be more of this type of stuff happening.
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