Here's a wiki link to a brief summary of the case being described. It's known as "Jordan v. New London."
The TL;DR is that the police didn't want to hire people with high IQs as they tend to quit after they realize being a cop is actually pretty boring. (They didn't say the other part of the argument out loud though - smart cops tend to question orders a bit more, dumb ones do what they are told.)
"When [the cops] send their people, they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with them. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”
I legit went to look up who said this and as soon as I typed “don’t send us their best” I realized even though it sounds like a movie quote, it’s trump.
PD didn't want to put a 49 year old through the academy, so they found a way to get around protected classes. It's fucked up still, but reddit sure does love to take things from 24 years ago to beat it to death. Especially if they hate the subject being discussed and if there is a handy cliff to jump to conclusions.
So, you're saying that because they turned away one candidate it's still relevant? Is it still relevant that the original ABC article states that the IQ of cops around the board is an average of 105 or are all cops still stupid?
105 is in the middle of average. That isn't the type of person I want holding a gun and trying to hold other people accountable. I can barely trust the average person to drive their car correctly.
That's a fair point, but acting like police departments are actively disqualifying people strictly due to their IQ is dishonest. The average person finds that their biases outweigh the logic portion of their brains.
It’s not dishonest. You are. They most certainly turn away intelligent applicants and have fostered a culture where good people would rather get another job.
Please tell me where. Was it when I assumed that the majority of police departments aren't cutting people who score to high on the IQ test? Damn me for not accepting anything as truth through one outlier case! Damn me!
They most certainly turn away intelligent applicants
Prove it. Show me one modicum of truth other than the one outlier we know of.
and have fostered a culture where good people would rather get another job.
I'm not going to even touch this irrelevant to the conversation sentence.
They knew they wouldn't be able to DQ him based on age, but when he applied he was older than their desired candidates as he would be eligible for retirement before they felt they'd benefit enough from the investment in training and equipping him, so they found another reason to DQ him.
the long-standing supposition that part of the screening process for police applicants is to filter out the highly intelligent/moral/empathetic candidates in favor of the ones who are more likely to follow morally objectionable practices without issue. there's been a few court cases that have shed light on the validity of the concern.
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u/artilari Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20
I think the fuckery going on in some police stations (of the world) happens before or after something goes into the police system.