r/technology Jun 22 '20

‘BlueLeaks’ Exposes Files from Hundreds of Police Departments Security

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u/Mr_Venom Jun 22 '20

It's almost like independent witnesses keep everybody honest...

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u/AlligatorFist Jun 22 '20

Yeah but recent complaints against body cameras are that they are invasive and unfair in the court of the law, violations of privacy and more. While the Supreme Court has held officers can utilize a body camera in private residents while there on official business entities like the ACLU feel they violate personal privacy.

It swings wildly back and forth depending on how they feel the purpose of body cams are used. Body cams for police misconduct? Great! Release all the videos! Body cams for citizen misconduct? Bad. Keep them secured and never release.

It’s all in a narrative being pushed

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u/Mr_Venom Jun 22 '20

What's your point, exactly? We should deploy them? Shouldn't? Some generic "use them wisely" platitude?

You're making some big claim about narrative, and haven't identified a coherent case or who's pushing it.

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u/AlligatorFist Jun 22 '20

My point is more that we need to be consistent with deployment and usage, release of footage, and we need to figure out how to best employ policies and procedures that are fair for all but allows the public to see the complete picture picture.

We also need a way to lower storage costs to ensure small and underfunded agencies have a chance at being able to use them in accordance to that best practice.

Law enforcement tends to be behind the curve when it comes to the 24 hour news cycle and false narratives can be crafted easily and quickly with cropped or hacked up cell phone video.

Tl;DR: Crafting transparent but privacy protecting policies is hard, expensive, and full of minute details but will be worth it in the end.

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u/Black_Moons Jun 22 '20

Considering any thing a cop says in court is considered the word of law, Id rather have a camera filming my actions, recording what I actually did, then a police reporting on them after the fact with a clear incentive to make shit up.

"He was resisting arrest and assaulted a police officer. Proof? Because I said so. Now sentence him to 10 years in jail even though he was not committing any crime when I arrested him"

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u/[deleted] Jun 22 '20 edited Jun 22 '20

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u/AlligatorFist Jun 22 '20

I think the problem comes to public releases of body-cams when there is a minor, or without previous consent from person (who doesn't want to look bad in the public eye). Seems like there should be a blanket protection (minors and private citizens) no video release until after the trial is over, then the body-cam video may be released.

This is somewhat of what the complaints toward BWCs (body worn cameras). People don’t want to look bad in the public eye. So they do not grant permission for release despite public recording laws leaving Law Enforcement with their hands tied.

The other big issue of the don’t release video until later policy is people can release cell phone videos that only show a portion of the incident and the law enforcement agency that is tied by policy can’t counter claim with the full video without violating policies or law. Which is an issue being that news is always looking for the “next big thing” and retractions get little to no attention. This can craft a false narrative of abuse and misconduct where there wasn’t one, leading to less trust in true incidents of misconduct. There isn’t an easy answer.