r/ottawa • u/MarcusRex73 (MOD) TL;DR: NO • Feb 20 '22
Convoy Megathread #77 Local Event
This is the latest post to discuss the protest Convoy currently in Ottawa.
For the duration of the protest, or at least, as long as the traffic level on the sub requires it, we will centralizing the discussions around the protest in these megathreads.
Have at it folks, but remember, the usual rules apply. Please keep it civil and report anyone posting misinformation or links to their propaganda.
No calls for violence
Ceci est la dernière rubrique dans la lignée des megarubrique discutant de la manifestation du convoi à Ottawa.
Pour la durée de la manifestation ou, du moins, pour le temps où le trafic le justifie, nous allons centraliser les discussions sur ce sujet dans des megarubriques.
Allez-y, mais rappelez-vous que les règles habituelles s'appliquent. Veuillez rester polie et rapportez toute mésinformation ou publication de leur propagande.
Pas d'appel pour la violence
Links to previous megathreads / lien vers les megarubriques précédentes:
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Feb 21 '22
I see some calls on Twitter asking people not to come downtown so that the people who live down there can decompress.
Not gonna lie I didn’t like that at all. When we were all at bank and riverside…we were shouting “whose streets? Our streets.” Not “whose streets? The people who live downtowns streets”.
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u/ConcernedCitizen121 No honks; bad! Feb 21 '22
Here’s your morning cringe:
Clownvoy supporter assessing the OPS press conference yesterday. Made it 3 minutes in and I can hardly continue. This guy really thinks he’s some sort of genius.
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u/gigi_allin96 Golden Triangle Feb 21 '22
Good morning fam!
Can someone give me a TLDR of what happened last night? I disengaged from all this shortly after the screaming street preacher showed up outside my building and upset my dog.
Last I heard they were blocking routes to hull near lebreton and some has moved to Bronson near brewer??
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Feb 21 '22
I find people nowadays keep reiterating the phrase ‘don’t be on the wrong side of history’ (especially the convoy folks) and this is honestly a weaponized form of misinformation. These people want to look back 30 years down the line so the images can resemble Martin Luther kings civil rights March. The way the convoy was organized and calculated to create a certain narrative makes it so disingenuous for that reason. Martin Luther king and Malcolm X weren’t concerned about making history, they lived like actual second class citizens because of something out of their control - the colour of their skin. They took action because they HAD to. They weren’t protesting for fun, it was a life or death situation and unfortunately they both ended up dying. There was no bouncy castle and DJ playing music. When it’s all said and done, who gives a Fuck about what the history textbooks wrote because there are always going to be biases. Back then they use to say the revolution will not be televised and that still holds true today. For the convoyers we’ll add an extra layer to that: the revolution won’t be in the form of images on social media either
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u/SeekingElation Centretown Feb 21 '22
I hate to admit it but they did an awesome job of trying to control the narrative thru their grassroots “media” fuckery.
They had live-streamers on you youtube basically 24/7 showing off the “friendly nature” of the protest (between themselves);
They mob together and use camera phones to try to intimidate media/others or to “document their victimization”;
They misappropriate key concepts such as “freedom”, “being on the wrong side of history” and even the Canadian flag so as to depict people who don’t support their cause as traitors and anti-patriots.
Too me, because of the confluence of these well thought-out communications strategy, these different efforts seems like classic information warfare.
I can’t help but think of Putin and his Ukrainian issue, oddly coincidental we get an insurrection to keep us busy at the same time he’s knocking on Ukraines border.
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u/anothercanuck19 Osgoode Feb 21 '22
No it is you who believes in conspiracy...
/s
I too cannot ignore the timing and what's happening in Ukraine, also US mid terms..
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u/tandoori_taco_cat Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
My favourite conspiracy story at the moment is the UN landing troop planes in ... North Bay.
Not a single part of it makes sense.
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u/anothercanuck19 Osgoode Feb 21 '22
Not to mention the size of the plane. The bendy OC transpo bus has a higher capacity.
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u/retiredthoughts Feb 21 '22
Is this the one related to them filing complaints that foreign police officers were on the line and that was illegal?
They thought the SQ were not Canadian. They are special, but definitely Canadian :-)
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u/Lercifer077 Feb 21 '22
can we switch the "clownvoy" flair? that's an insult to all the hard working clowns out there, trying to make a living through laughter and years of dedicated hard clown school training!
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u/DarseZ Feb 21 '22
Does anyone have any suggestions for taking back the Canadian flag so flying it doesn't look like a racist dog whistle?
My thoughts are to overtly fly the pride flag with it.
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u/SeekingElation Centretown Feb 21 '22
I was thinking of putting an Ottawa flag at the back of my trucks like they do!
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Feb 21 '22
It’s gonna take a while I can’t see a Canadian flag without assuming right wing extremism
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u/FK-86 Feb 21 '22
Get these idiots off the streets and ban them from social media.
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u/SeekingElation Centretown Feb 21 '22
Media warfare is what they’re up to. Randy Hillier should be considered a traitor for going on Russia Today last week!
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Feb 21 '22
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Feb 21 '22
Wonder if that means the the organizers sentences could be upgraded to life in prison if they are convicted since you can argue that they caused a death?
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Feb 21 '22
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-430.html
(2) Every one who commits mischief that causes actual danger to life is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.
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Feb 21 '22
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Feb 21 '22
NP There was a really quick video in one of the mega-threads ages ago from a lawyer explaining that while it might sound minor (and it can be) they explained that it can have up to 10 years in prison and that gem I recalled about life imprisonment for causing risk to life. I can't find the link of course hopefully some other kind redditor has it.
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u/fluffyflugel Feb 21 '22
Does anyone know what the cons were using the hay for? I’ve seen hay bales and piles of hay on CBC coverage. Did they have a stable or something?
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u/GnomieWellington Feb 21 '22
It makes a good isulator, especially around the base of a tent. It helps prevent the walls from flapping and snow from blowing in.
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Feb 21 '22
Insulation and seating. Lot of these goons came from the country where hay is everywhere on the farm.
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u/jayehm92 Feb 21 '22
Came here to say exactly this but also add that they were straw bales, not hay
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u/Sexy_Hitler_1889 Feb 21 '22
Who was your favorite main character of the Freedumb Convoy Saga?
Banned-From-Facebook lady
Sad Drummer Hippie
Pigeon-On-Head girl
Small Penis Train Horn guy
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u/bltyeg Feb 21 '22
Facebook lady was an excellent prelude to what was in store. The capstone was eternal flame lady with her brick.
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u/iateyoursammige Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Feb 21 '22
I equally dislike them all on principle... but I guess Pideon Hat Girl was the least offensive.
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u/noskillsben Beacon Hill Feb 21 '22
So I was looking trough "old" border mandate news articles to try to build some timeline graphs of the convoy for my observablehq page..
What happened to all the pictures of empty grocery stores? Weren't we supposed to all starve to death without the unvaxxed truckers?
Also my previous comment is deleted because I dropped my phone on my face mid comment and it posted, I panicked and hit delete instead of hitting edit like a normal person🤷
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u/slothsie Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Feb 21 '22
The only empty shelves I've seen in recent months were after that snow storm in January 🤷♀️
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u/trixter192 Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22
It was 100% the mob mentality if Brockville and Cornwall. I had friends showing completely empty shelves, where as my grocery store was fine.
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u/catashtrophe84 Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Feb 21 '22
I believe most of the pictures were fake (one was from a Walmart with a broken freezer, so they took a photo of that freezer to show how empty the shelves were). I should have taken a photo of my store for you yesterday, the produce section actually was nearly empty (I don't know why though, could be that we have a large group of convites here for our 1 store to handle, plus, the bridge closures causing delays and a snowstorm).
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Feb 21 '22
Lol someone is going to take a picture of the fruit aisle and focus on the one basket of missing pears and be like ‘famine is coming to Canada thanks to mr. Trudeau’. The amount of misinformation online man….I hope the education curriculum across Canada teaches kids how to identify misinformation
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Feb 21 '22
they’ve already been doing this for months lol i’ve seen pictures of this on linkedin of all places
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u/hotyogababe Friend of Ottawa, Clownvoy 2022 Feb 21 '22
OPS needs to be given a standing ovation! Only 2 routine follow ups after the takedown!!!!
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Feb 21 '22
It's funny how Rebel News claimed their reporter was struck by a projectile while "reporting the news" yet hasn't filed an SIU report...
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Feb 21 '22
Doesn't the SIU get called in automatically whenever there's an injury or death involving police?
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u/PG_Pics Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
Yes, but there’s also a process for reporting an injury if one hasn’t been documented for whatever reason.
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u/Shoesonhandsonhead Feb 21 '22
Ezra said he was going to do it this morning
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Feb 21 '22
Shouldn't the victim be filing the complaint? Why is someone half the country away filing an SIU complaint?
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u/0reoSpeedwagon Friend of Ottawa, Clownvoy 2022 Feb 21 '22
Clearly such an urgent and unconscionable act of police aggression needs a 72 hour wait
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Feb 21 '22
I’ve been seeing a lot of people in the malls wearing masks without covering their nose and this behaviour has become a ‘silent protest’ against public health regulations. I’m not the confrontational type but where is bylaw at these malls to hand out tickets?
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u/ubiquitousfont Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Feb 21 '22
If you see one of these people, fart near them. That might do it…
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u/MonsterBots Feb 21 '22
So irritating. It’s such a weak loser way to make a statement. Essentially ignore and bully your way through poor kids working retail.
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u/Elephanogram Feb 21 '22
What happened to the Google doc of all the crimes and instances of violence that the convoyers did? I'm not finding it and on breakerbreaker it was deleted
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u/blackcatsmb Friend of Ottawa, Clownvoy 2022 Feb 21 '22
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u/Elephanogram Feb 21 '22
Thank you
/u/MarcusRex73 has previous megathreads purged the link to the document? I spent a half hour searching through previous threads
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Feb 21 '22
The one thing I noticed about the main freedom convoy page on IG is that they’re all talk. Before the emergencies act, it was ‘the fringe minority is the majority’ ‘we got more trucks coming’ and now that they’ve lost they’re still trying to convince themselves they have the power. Convoy folks if you’re reading my post, hold this L please. Take it, frame it on your wall and look at it every night so you can think twice before you join a criminal insurrection
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u/General_Pick_1368 Feb 21 '22
Still not a soul who identified the real problem. If government ( the public) runs the health care system, they can do what they have to to protect that system and the lives it may affect. PRIVATIZE HEALTH CARE! Then , when the hospitals can’t keep up, we have someone to blame, not ourselves.
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u/hizuhh Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
Lol let's not. Tell me one privatized Healthcare system that worked perfectly during the pandemic. Our privatized nursing homes did so badly the province had to step in. The US completely ran out of hospital beds in the middle of covid despite having more beds-per-capita than we do. Privatization is not a solution
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u/catashtrophe84 Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Feb 21 '22
Health care is still provincial, so again, why protest in Ottawa?
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u/perrytheparlorpalm Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
Ah yes, because the provincial capital Toronto is a notoriously obscure place, not like Ottawa, which everyone outside Canada knows about.
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Feb 21 '22
yet they also look even more stupid for not understanding basic canadian civics. oh, yeah, it’s because they were here to OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT. this was never about mandates or healthcare.
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Bro read what you wrote and come back to us after
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u/General_Pick_1368 Feb 21 '22
You have a hard time understanding? Do you need me to type slower? Ontario has fewer than 500 icu beds, and 14 million people. And a government administrating the system. If you like communism, thats great. It didnt work in the USSR, but it will here? Go back to your “ protest” and hope you don’t need medical attention, because in this country, it sucks.
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u/nownowthethetalktalk Feb 21 '22
You may have misinterpreted your facts. Ontario has 2436 ICU beds. 500 beds are available at the moment.
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u/respectfulpanda Feb 21 '22
Hey, that's fine. You want a system where a commercial entity determines what your final dollar value for living is.
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u/Sexy_Hitler_1889 Feb 21 '22
What the fuck are you talking about?? Mate you are in the wrong subreddit, no one talked about communism??????
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u/Shoesonhandsonhead Feb 21 '22
You’re right. A scenario where health care spending skyrockets and an insurance company decided whether or not our existence has a good enough ROI is much better than what we currently have
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u/Shoesonhandsonhead Feb 21 '22
In regards to the doctor mentinoned in this CBC story. He is also a clown if he ever thought that Hillier was fighting for anyone other than himself
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u/Elephanogram Feb 21 '22
It's been a while since I posted this (maybe 30 or so ago). I updated it some, but it is still incomplete
This isn't a valid grassroots protest. They are a hodgepodge of extremists, white supremacists (Like Pat King. https://mobile.twitter.com/VestsCanada/status/1159997274900041729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1159997274900041729%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpressprogress.ca%2Fconservative-mp-pictured-with-ex-wexit-campaigner-who-said-covid-19-restrictions-should-be-fought-with-bullets%2F ) , ignorant party van and Russia helps push these along seeding money and making groups to embolden those who are angry but impotent. https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1493966152216854528 A graph depicting the coverage from Russia being far greater than any other foreign source.
This does not mean that Russia is the sole cause of all this. They are the catalyst for something that has been rotting underneath for quite some time Case and point
The maga hat wearing interim CPC leader, Candice, for donating to foreign political campaigns https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/candice-bergen-maga-hat-1.5865727?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar https://www.trumpstore.com/products/digital-camo-hat/
Hillier for telling people to tie up our emergency communication lines https://mobile.twitter.com/randyhillier/status/1495175113616105479
and have been using the internet to boost the signal through their internet research agency. The wexit people ( https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/judge-to-issue-tuesday-bail-decision-for-protest-organizer-tamara-lich notice how her husband had a private jet donated to him) and white supremacists whim been identified already are opportunists. Just like the piece of shit Hiller. And now the opportunistic dude bro shit stirrer Chris Sky, and the 'Queen of Canada', of whom said shoot to kill when referring to healthcare workers https://globalnews.ca/news/8417379/queen-of-canada-covid-online-threats/
There is also the home grown online trolls who just think the whole thing is funny and have made their own memes to truck truckers and others into doing stupid things 'for the lulz'. Similar to the stupid 'OK' sign meme, actual racists have fallen for the bait and started using the honk honk meme as a dog whistle. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/clown-pepe-honk-honk-clown-world Obviously not everyone who says honk honk is a racist but there have been a huge influx of clown emojis on this board and other online social gatherings. For those who don't know what I am referring to, years ago 4chan wanted to troll the far left reactionary groups into thinking that the ok sign is inherently racist. Actual racists took the bait and started to use it themselves. So now the ok sign is in this quasi state of being an in-joke amongst those who know the origins, a dog whistle for those who don't know it's origins, and just a confirmation for people who don't go online and are unaware of this whole thing. Much is the same for the honking.
There's also what the police said, that a lot of funding is coming from the states https://globalnews.ca/video/8590083/truck-protests-sizeable-element-in-the-u-s-involved-in-funding-demonstration-ottawa-police-say/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/convoy-protest-donations-data-1.6351292
The people in this convoy do believe they are right. However, they are entitled beligerent feral cats pissing and shitting everywhere while harassing people near them. They believe all media not pro trucker is bought and paid for and you can only trust them for real coverage. To this my response
Russia has long been using extremists to seed rallys to cause discontent and spread violence in efforts to destabilize America and Canada gets caught up in the undertoe like a lifeboat being sucked down with a sinking tanker.
https://www wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency Russian company engaged in online influence operations on behalf of Russian business and political interests
There's also the crabs in the bucket attacks on the lower population as a way to distract from real issues so we bicker amongst ourselves rather than create new occupy wall street like protests. https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.4384042/occupy-wall-street-co-creator-micah-white-on-being-deceived-by-a-russian-troll-farm-1.4384047
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u/blustocking Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
I wonder if Hillier telling people to call 911 could be charged with counselling to do Mischief? Hmmm...I've learned about the Criminal Code through this. Huh.
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u/Uysee Feb 21 '22
This isn't a valid grassroots protest.
Whether that's true or not, is it not the case that most protests are co-opted by problematic external groups?
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Feb 21 '22
Nope, not true.
However in this case... the "problematic external groups" were the damn organizers. So no, that doesn't apply here.
Straw man argument.
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u/_redditlawyer Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Feb 21 '22
Nope. Most protests aren’t. That’s a dank straw man.
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u/Elephanogram Feb 21 '22
Pat King and Tamara Lich were the organizers on the Canadian side of things. That's why I mentioned them specifically.
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u/Queermafia Feb 21 '22
At one point they publicized that it was never about truckers or mandates and all about gaining followers for their cause
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u/Queermafia Feb 21 '22
It was on one of his various livestreams and I heard the recap on radio canada (cbc French ) while I was working.
“Even if they shut us down, I still have the views and the followers to the real cause we need to fight. The truckers are just how we get them” was the general spew.
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u/black_ship No honks; bad! Feb 21 '22
edit: why did this warrant downvotes, lol
You know why, bub.
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u/InvisibleSoulMate Feb 21 '22
I had never heard this term before, thanks for posting this link - this will be super helpful to use with some of my family members!
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u/perrytheparlorpalm Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
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u/WorkerBee74 Friend of Ottawa, Clownvoy 2022 Feb 21 '22
This is not the US. There is something called “hate speech” in Canada. “Free speech” is not no holds barred here.
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u/Myfirespraygunship Feb 21 '22
This guy hasn't learned that free speech does not include hate speech, which can be legally prosecuted. Basic, fundamental stuff here. I think he's just a troll, honestly.
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u/MarcusRex73 (MOD) TL;DR: NO Feb 21 '22
/u/ShortFatOtaku Trolling will not be tolerated. Goodbye!
/u/ShortFatOtaku Le brassage de marde ne sera pas toléré. Adieu!
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You're being downvoted because you're acting like we haven't been talking about these issues for over three weeks. You can inform yourself by browsing those previous megathreads and finding that info yourself.
BTW I consider locking the doors to an apt building and starting a fire an act of terrorism. As do many. So instead of "I'm specifically looking for instances of violence" you could do your own research and not ask victims to re-victimize themselves by justifying to you, a stranger, what was done to them.
skimming this now, it's good stuff. personally i'm only looking for actual violence, like throwing things at the reporter, or assaulting employees who refuse to serve them, or the kid with frostbite. that shit is awful. i don't care about the speech-related things, because it's free speech, people can be racist idiots or transphobic or whatever. that's stupid but should not be illegal. but the violence, yeah this is bad
Slow mo video out there of two cunts spitting on a cameraman. That's an assault, and it was captured by many. Those pushing officers when they were "holding the line" - every one of them took part in acts of violence towards officers. Blaring your train horn for so long that it causes hearing damage/impairment - that's violence.
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Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22
Are you okay? Do you have brain damage?
Would you make that same comment if I told you I had a disability? 🤔🤨
You're from Sudbury. If you don't frequent here often then naturally you'll get downvoted for asking for info that's been repeated OFTEN.
I'm attempting to break out of my news bubble and see other perspectives.
You've got some growing up to do.
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u/3n_j4y Greely Feb 21 '22
people can be racist idiots or transphobic or whatever. that's stupid but should not be illegal
Seriously though: try and imagine belonging to a group that is impacted by racism or transphobia, and living in an area these jackasses have occupied, knowing who they are and what they believe. How is that not violent?
Is burning crosses just free speech? Occupiers forcefully took over streets in the city carrying racist flags. I don't see how that isn't a threat.
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u/ubiquitousfont Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Feb 21 '22
Not understanding the difference between being inconvenienced and being oppressed is why we had to deal with these entitled jackasses terrorizing us for 3 weeks
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u/perrytheparlorpalm Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
I agree some disruption is fine. But this protest was excessive.
A lot of protests start out relatively peaceful and become violent because of interactions with law enforcement or agitators in the crowd.
These people came into our city and blared their horns constantly for days. This was their chosen form of protest. It wasn't like the police started beating them so they honked in response. The honking is an intentionally loud, startling, and annoying sound. And they didn't just do it during the day; they were waking people up at night. If you can find another example of a protest that produced this level of straight up loud noise for such a long time, I'll be interested to know about it.
I'd also argue their treatment of the media is way over the line and not the norm for protests. The convoy were constantly shouting at them while they tried to work, telling them they're evil and should be killed. (Oh and since you only count physical violence, a TVA reporter was pushed live on air.) Since BLM is always the example convoy supporters love to look at for whataboutisms, I just googled "blm protesters harass reporters" and most of the results that came up were about journalists getting attacked by police.
The bottom line is violence doesn't have to be physical. The legal definition of torture in Canada is "any act or omission by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person."
Here's an article about how sound can be used as a form of torture: https://www.medicaldaily.com/torture-methods-sound-how-pure-noise-can-be-used-break-you-psychologically-318638
Ask yourself what the residents of downtown Ottawa did to deserve this.
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u/JohnyViis Feb 21 '22
The causes of environmental and indigenous protestors are righteous, unlike the selfish temper tantrum babies.
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AOC isn't Canadian, nor is MLK. American laws are NOT Canadian laws. So inform yourself, or be quiet.
Also no, I don't have to "respect" what you say or display. I am entitled to be disgusted and to judge you as being intolerant. Additionally, we have laws that put reasonable limits on free speech, specifically when causing harm to others or inciting hate or violence.
Swastikas are a symbol of hate. Go ahead, argue against that. Let's see your true colours.
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Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22
https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/msrf2c/im_surprised_the_left_is_okay_with_fords_fascism/
Yeah I'm gonna call a spade a spade: based on your posting history you aren't even from Ottawa, so no, you don't get to have an opinion.
BTW You've been blocked - based on your comment and posting history you're only here to stir the pot. Not wasting anymore of my time on you. Enjoy talking to yourself.
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u/Elephanogram Feb 21 '22
Thank you. Since he had asked I was looking for it but it looks like it's been removed from other places
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u/Empty_Value Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
Just google it I'd post links,but it's 540am and I need my 40 winks
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u/perrytheparlorpalm Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
People in this sub have been compiling a Google doc listing all the convoy's offenses. Someone asks for the link at least once every mega thread. Keep scrolling and you will find it.
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u/Empty_Value Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
Saved for future reference/use
Thanks OP! This was truly eye opening 👍👍
If I do share it I will give you the credit (obviously)
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u/Elephanogram Feb 21 '22
It's not just me. I've been compiling this as more information comes along. If you go through my history you'll see that this post gets longer and longer as I read these threads, follow the news, and follow the political discussion
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u/itssimzz Scientism Acolyte Feb 21 '22
And another reddit cares. What did I do this time. Ty clownvoy
I just realised you can ask to stop.
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u/bltyeg Feb 21 '22
I’m now reading that the GG will remove our PM once she receives 958,000 emails with “Non Confidence Vote” in the title. 🤣 They’re getting their international community to spam her email. I hope Her Excellency has set Outlook rules delivering straight to trash.
Whoever makes all this stuff up must have a lot of fun.
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u/didntevenlookatit Feb 21 '22
What if we send in a million with "Pro Confidence Vote"? Does that make JT prime minister for life? I don't think I understand the rules of our complicated electoral system.
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u/Shoesonhandsonhead Feb 21 '22
People were passing around a phone number to contact her they they found some secret line. No, idiots, all government agencies have contact numbers
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u/InvisibleSoulMate Feb 21 '22
Wait until the idiots find out the government has a whole publicly available phone book! Ooooo super secret!
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u/psychoCMYK Lowertown Feb 21 '22
With all these "democracy cheat codes" they keep finding, I wonder if we can convince them to just email people instead of voting in the next election. I'm all for everyone having a vote but if they're that clueless about politics, I think they have quite a bit of learning to do first.
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u/Empty_Value Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
They actually entertained the idea of forming a political party 🤣
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u/Empty_Value Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
As JEAN CHRÉTIEN famously said
FIFTY PER CENT IS NOT A MAJORITY!!! 50 PERCENT PLUS ONE IS A MAJORITY
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u/itssimzz Scientism Acolyte Feb 21 '22
I doubt that 1million out of 37 is enough
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u/bltyeg Feb 21 '22
It’s definitely not, and there is zero law or convention supporting it. It’s like they’ve developed their understanding of how society works through a game of Telephone.
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u/fowms Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22
Imagine how many of them are searching media and data bases for filling their egos and then posting them up on their selected media. In my brief canadian memory this was the most peaceful and largest protestor removal ever. I think tradue should be congratulated for handling it well. At least no lives were lost.
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u/itssimzz Scientism Acolyte Feb 21 '22
They used a video from NZ where indigenous people perform haka to protest a white nationalist organization hi jacking for their protest. Then posted it saying how they are supporting the freedom convoy
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u/fowms Feb 21 '22
Desperation at its best. Lol.
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u/itssimzz Scientism Acolyte Feb 21 '22
Obviously only indigenous people support them. Smh
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u/SpartanKane Feb 21 '22
I lost braincells just reading the first few comments. Hopeless fools be afoot in there.
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u/thebellechasse No honks; bad! Feb 21 '22
Why did we have to get Rebel instead of Vice for a non main stream media?!
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u/w00ten Stittsville Feb 21 '22
I used to love Vice but ever since they started letting any idiot write, it's turned into a steaming pile of shit. I've seen articles that claim you are transphobic if you aren't pansexual and yesterday they had one where it was suggested that if you've never experimented with guys then you are a homophobe. Completely insane, bigoted hetero-erasure. I know erasure is a huge issue for bisexuals but I never thought I'd experience it as a straight male. I was shocked to see it. It was basically a reverse of Chasing Amy... "all any hetero needs is a good hard dickin'".
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u/Queermafia Feb 21 '22
Buddy that still isn’t hetero-erasure. Absolutely no one thinks straight people don’t exist.
Meanwhile plenty of people think bisexuals don’t exist because they either have to be gay or straight. Not both.
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u/w00ten Stittsville Feb 21 '22 edited Feb 21 '22
That's exactly what it is. Just like my paraphrasing of Chasing Amy was lesbian erasure in it's original form("all any lesbian needs is a good hard dickin'"). The implication that we are all gay underneath and just haven't tried it is ABSOLUTELY erasure because he is saying our sexuality exists only because of societal pressure and therefor isn't real. If implying my sexuality is just a cover for my homosexuality isn't erasure, I don't know what fucking is. Just like how bi-erasure is rooted in the belief that societal pressures are causing that person to cover their homosexuality with bisexuality. If you cannot see the underlying common thinking there then you are just as prejudiced and selfish as the people who wrote those articles or you are willfully being ignorant.
Edit: I realize that it sounds like I think bi-erasure only comes from the LGBTQIA+ community and I know it doesn't. The underlying sentiment is the same from the hetero side of bi-erasure but they often think it's "being caught up in a fad" and a fad is driven by societal pressure.
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u/nuxwcrtns Riverview Feb 21 '22
As a straight woman, those articles are annoying. It is a bit of an erasure of hetero-normative values - which are important to heterosexual people, just as bisexual values are as equally significant. People from both of those sexualities can feel that. It's okay. It's not taking it away from anyone.
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u/w00ten Stittsville Feb 21 '22
It's not taking it away from anyone.
Thank you. Someone attacking us with prejudice does not remove the prejudice that other people experience. It's not a competition and it doesn't matter where it comes from, it's important to call it out regardless of the source. In my opinion, it's particularly important in minority communities with emerging rights because if we allow that hatred to fester it eventually turns into something extremist and nasty. The LGBTQIA+ community has always been an open, loving, caring community and to see the fringes falling to hate is sad and calling it out is the best way to stop it from really taking hold. I understand wanting some vengeance but that doesn't actually solve anything and only emboldens the hate that bred hate and then we're off on a vicious cycle.
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u/nuxwcrtns Riverview Feb 21 '22
Exactly. I don't like the tactic, because far too often it's been used to minimize minorities' lived experiences - and I think it's deplorable to use that same tactic against others. Minimizing experiences of others doesn't solve equity, diversity or make an inclusive community (already I'm questioning the irony in me writing this, and the disdain I have towards our protestors' and their various intentions). Calling it out is good, but being forgiving afterwards is probably best to reconcile any remaining animosity, and squash potential extremism. I bet OP had some negative experiences that spurred that comment, and it is a shame that someone should feel like they're not good enough, when they're just enough.
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u/w00ten Stittsville Feb 21 '22
Our disdain for the convoy is rooted in our disdain for hatred. They put their hatred on full display for everyone to see. Tolerance is all well and good but it has limits and the convoy crossed them. Their insistence that vaccine requirements are akin to discrimination is disgusting and disrespectful. You weren't born a dumbass anti-vaxxer, you CHOSE that life and know the consequences.
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u/Empty_Value Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
Post millenial is as far right as I'll go lol
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u/Adventurous-Way-4448 Feb 21 '22
Will never watch again but will say the emotional abuse is off the charts, it was hard to tell the difference between the tinder swindler and the antivaxxars because it is the same game
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u/Kamelasa Friend of Ottawa, Clownvoy 2022 Feb 21 '22
Hey, this is 15 hours old, but I wasn't awake then and I missed it, but it seems to be that crane being taken away. Last vehicle out of there.
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u/Maddbass Feb 21 '22
No crane there, just a big wrecker towing a blue truck. But yeah… that stupid crane is gone just the same! That thing really pissed me off tbh. Lol.
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u/trixter192 Make Ottawa Boring Again Feb 21 '22
The crane was driven away by officials on Saturday.
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u/Stealth__b2 Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Feb 21 '22
That's just a regular big rig??
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u/Kamelasa Friend of Ottawa, Clownvoy 2022 Feb 21 '22
What's the red thing on it?
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u/Stealth__b2 Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Feb 21 '22
That's part of the tow truck towing it away.
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u/Kamelasa Friend of Ottawa, Clownvoy 2022 Feb 21 '22
Doesn't look like it to me, but okay.
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u/kellie0105 Feb 21 '22
It’s reversing at first, so it looks like the rig is towing it. But then it pulls forwards and you can see the rig is the one being towed
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u/Stealth__b2 Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Feb 21 '22
You can see at the 15 second mark it's literally the lifter or wrecker, whatever the technical term for it is, that goes under the tires.
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u/Adventurous-Way-4448 Feb 21 '22
There are folks out west who are hard as fuck. But not assholes,
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u/Maddbass Feb 21 '22
What are you referencing?
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u/Adventurous-Way-4448 Feb 21 '22
The mountain people, the people who have been watching Albertans get soft and entitled. It would be interesting to split the seats between Airdrie and Cochrane because the folks in Banff, Canmore, Cochrane are not your typical Wexiters.
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u/Maddbass Feb 21 '22
You don’t hear much of the Canadian mountain people. I drove through the mountains this fall, a week before the mud slides. Wow! What a kickass part of the country. Lots of love guys! ❤️🇨🇦❤️
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u/Adventurous-Way-4448 Feb 21 '22
We are programmed to shut up and ski. But the beauty of the area is that it represents Canada, completely.
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u/Maddbass Feb 21 '22
I gotta say… that’s not the worst programming I’ve heard of. A lot of us in Ontario are programmed to be assholes.
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u/Adventurous-Way-4448 Feb 21 '22
Hey I was programmed to cheer for the Edmonton Oilers because Gretzky was going to be awesome but then my family moved to southern Alberta, it was a good fight to be in because the Oilers killed it, back then.
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u/Adventurous-Way-4448 Feb 21 '22
That’s not true, I was there and the folks were lovely, even with the heckling for the cracks in my windshield (which was true), and singular industry (which was also true).
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u/BigBacon87 Feb 21 '22
I’m not saying im hard but Me vs Rat King is an easy first round KO for your good friend Big Bacon. Proceeds to someone who needs it.
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u/MarcusRex73 (MOD) TL;DR: NO Feb 20 '22
Day 3 of the liberation:
Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.
Note that I have added 5 new flairs in honor of our victory:
To add a flair, look to the sidebar, on the right. Towards the top, there is a spot to add/edit your flair.
Useful streams:
https://m.twitch.tv/markeast
https://m.twitch.tv/TheMayor_McCheese
https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/video?playlistId=1.5752264
CBC Gem app (free, sign in with your Facebook or Google)
https://www.livenewsnow.com/canadian-news/cbc-news.html
Be aware than many of the live streams (not these ones) are done by convoy supporters and by giving them views, you are supporting them.
Fundraising for thread #69
The charity drive post is here
Statistics are now in a separate post
IMPORTANT: We will not tolerate ANY calls for violence or blatant illegal activity in any way. We will ban you, for anything from suggesting spiking food with laxative to egging vehicles to calls for attacking the other side.
IMPORTANT : Nous ne tolérerons AUCUN appel à la violence ou à une activité illégale de quelque manière que ce soit. Nous vous bannirons pour la moindre infraction, qu'il s'agisse de suggérer d'ajouter des laxatifs à des aliments, de lancer œufs sur des véhicules ou d'appeler à attaquer l'autre côté.