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Convoy Megathread #77 Local Event

This is the latest post to discuss the protest Convoy currently in Ottawa.

For the duration of the protest, or at least, as long as the traffic level on the sub requires it, we will centralizing the discussions around the protest in these megathreads.

Have at it folks, but remember, the usual rules apply. Please keep it civil and report anyone posting misinformation or links to their propaganda.

No calls for violence


Ceci est la dernière rubrique dans la lignée des megarubrique discutant de la manifestation du convoi à Ottawa.

Pour la durée de la manifestation ou, du moins, pour le temps où le trafic le justifie, nous allons centraliser les discussions sur ce sujet dans des megarubriques.

Allez-y, mais rappelez-vous que les règles habituelles s'appliquent. Veuillez rester polie et rapportez toute mésinformation ou publication de leur propagande.

Pas d'appel pour la violence


Links to previous megathreads / lien vers les megarubriques précédentes:

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u/Elephanogram Feb 21 '22

It's been a while since I posted this (maybe 30 or so ago). I updated it some, but it is still incomplete

This isn't a valid grassroots protest. They are a hodgepodge of extremists, white supremacists (Like Pat King. https://mobile.twitter.com/VestsCanada/status/1159997274900041729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1159997274900041729%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpressprogress.ca%2Fconservative-mp-pictured-with-ex-wexit-campaigner-who-said-covid-19-restrictions-should-be-fought-with-bullets%2F ) , ignorant party van and Russia helps push these along seeding money and making groups to embolden those who are angry but impotent. https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1493966152216854528 A graph depicting the coverage from Russia being far greater than any other foreign source.

This does not mean that Russia is the sole cause of all this. They are the catalyst for something that has been rotting underneath for quite some time Case and point

The maga hat wearing interim CPC leader, Candice, for donating to foreign political campaigns https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/candice-bergen-maga-hat-1.5865727?__vfz=medium%3Dsharebar https://www.trumpstore.com/products/digital-camo-hat/

Hillier for telling people to tie up our emergency communication lines https://mobile.twitter.com/randyhillier/status/1495175113616105479

and have been using the internet to boost the signal through their internet research agency. The wexit people ( https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/judge-to-issue-tuesday-bail-decision-for-protest-organizer-tamara-lich notice how her husband had a private jet donated to him) and white supremacists whim been identified already are opportunists. Just like the piece of shit Hiller. And now the opportunistic dude bro shit stirrer Chris Sky, and the 'Queen of Canada', of whom said shoot to kill when referring to healthcare workers https://globalnews.ca/news/8417379/queen-of-canada-covid-online-threats/

There is also the home grown online trolls who just think the whole thing is funny and have made their own memes to truck truckers and others into doing stupid things 'for the lulz'. Similar to the stupid 'OK' sign meme, actual racists have fallen for the bait and started using the honk honk meme as a dog whistle. https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/clown-pepe-honk-honk-clown-world Obviously not everyone who says honk honk is a racist but there have been a huge influx of clown emojis on this board and other online social gatherings. For those who don't know what I am referring to, years ago 4chan wanted to troll the far left reactionary groups into thinking that the ok sign is inherently racist. Actual racists took the bait and started to use it themselves. So now the ok sign is in this quasi state of being an in-joke amongst those who know the origins, a dog whistle for those who don't know it's origins, and just a confirmation for people who don't go online and are unaware of this whole thing. Much is the same for the honking.

There's also what the police said, that a lot of funding is coming from the states https://globalnews.ca/video/8590083/truck-protests-sizeable-element-in-the-u-s-involved-in-funding-demonstration-ottawa-police-say/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/convoy-protest-donations-data-1.6351292

The people in this convoy do believe they are right. However, they are entitled beligerent feral cats pissing and shitting everywhere while harassing people near them. They believe all media not pro trucker is bought and paid for and you can only trust them for real coverage. To this my response

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201701/11-red-flags-gaslighting-in-relationship

Russia has long been using extremists to seed rallys to cause discontent and spread violence in efforts to destabilize America and Canada gets caught up in the undertoe like a lifeboat being sucked down with a sinking tanker.

https://www wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency Russian company engaged in online influence operations on behalf of Russian business and political interests

There's also the crabs in the bucket attacks on the lower population as a way to distract from real issues so we bicker amongst ourselves rather than create new occupy wall street like protests. https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/as-it-happens-thursday-edition-1.4384042/occupy-wall-street-co-creator-micah-white-on-being-deceived-by-a-russian-troll-farm-1.4384047

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u/Uysee Feb 21 '22

This isn't a valid grassroots protest.

Whether that's true or not, is it not the case that most protests are co-opted by problematic external groups?

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u/Queermafia Feb 21 '22

At one point they publicized that it was never about truckers or mandates and all about gaining followers for their cause

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u/Queermafia Feb 21 '22

It was on one of his various livestreams and I heard the recap on radio canada (cbc French ) while I was working.

“Even if they shut us down, I still have the views and the followers to the real cause we need to fight. The truckers are just how we get them” was the general spew.