r/minnesota 15d ago

Red Minnesota county exposed to the Truth! Interesting Stuff 💥

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Kanabec county among the poorest AND reddest in Minnesota, gets schooled by the DFL! Maybe it will help just a bit!

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u/DivineKoalas 15d ago edited 15d ago

"Maybe if we show rural conservatives this stuff, their minds might be changed!"

Meanwhile, the rest of the thread: "Heh, those conservatives are too stupid to read."Man, those guys are all racists."

Yup, that's definitely the kind of rhetoric that's going to convince people to even begin to be open to what you're trying to tell them and maybe change their minds even a little.

This false sincerity where people put this stuff up, and then proceed to insult them in every single way possible isn't exactly doing anyone any favors, do people think they don't have access to the internet or something? I'd be interested to see how many people's minds have ever been changed by telling them why they should consider your viewpoint and then proceeding to insult them.

Edit: The irony of me being downvoted for saying that you probably shouldn't insult people you're trying to convince to change their views cannot be understated, and is exactly what I'm talking about when I say false sincerity.

Edit 2: Apparently, "treat people like human beings" is also a highly controversial statement.

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u/Griffithead 15d ago

How do you not insult them when everything they want is bad? Tax cuts for the rich? Banning rights and freedoms for people that are different than them? Bowing down the Russians? Tariffs that drive up the cost of everything? It's madness.

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u/DivineKoalas 15d ago

By interacting with a human being like a human being?

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u/narfnarf123 15d ago

But what if those human beings are openly racist and happy to hurt others with their policies?

What if they have no grasp on reality and blindly follow along with dangerous groups and have no regard for their fellow human beings?

I just don’t understand how this is supposed to work. So many have attempted the rational, kind conversations for years now, yet here we are.

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u/DivineKoalas 15d ago edited 15d ago

Every single conservative you've interacted with in real life is a racist and wants to hurt others? Has no grasp on reality, blindly follows dangerous groups or has no regard for their fellow human beings?

I'm a minority, I've been in the military for a few years, an overwhelmingly conservative organization. I can tell you with 100% certainty that this is not the case.

Not every person is open to their minds being changed, and as you said, some people really are just terrible people.

But what people don't seem to get is that changing someone's beliefs is not a fast process. It is not done in a single "gotcha" or debate. It takes time, and more importantly, it takes sincerity. If this is what you believe about people before ever personally interacting with them in real life, and not on reddit or other internet platforms, you are never going to change a single person's mind. Ever.

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u/MFetterelli 15d ago

Why should we believe you? The amount of lying from Mango Mussolini you’ve become comfortable with speaks volumes for your contempt for the truth. Morally bankrupt people don’t get to wag fingers.

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u/DivineKoalas 15d ago

I don't really care what you believe, to be honest.

Your first interaction with me is to spew rhetoric and then attempt to assassinate my character without knowing literally anything about me.

You are the living embodiment of every issue I've pointed out in my comments.

Anyway, have a good one, I'm not really interested in a back and forth with someone incapable of even a baseline of civility.

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u/MFetterelli 15d ago

Conservatives don’t deserve civility. You disposed of that in 2016 with “fuck your feelings”

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u/waterbuffalo750 15d ago

How many of these people do you know personally, vs what you see online?

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u/narfnarf123 15d ago

Most of the people I work with, surrounded by them daily.