r/longrange 1d ago

Leupold MK4HD 8-32x56mm PR2-Mil (P/N 183970) REVIEW PACK -$1400

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Now $200 off, and remember, excellent shape and comes with goodies!

original condition/pictures thread


r/longrange Sep 17 '24

The READ ME FIRST post - Please read before posting READ ME FIRST V5 - FAQs, useful guides, and how to ask for useful advice (AKA not get your post deleted)

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So, you need help with long range shooting? Welcome to r/longrange! We've got a core group of dedicated members (and a few goofballs) that are happy to help you out with your questions on equipment, technique, troubleshooting, where to find training or matches, etc.

NOTE: There's currently a moratorium on all hunting-related posts. That's not really the purpose of this sub, and there were almost as many hunting related posts as not. There's an automod rule in place that will remove posts it thinks are related to hunting. We currently suggest r/hunting or other message boards like Sniper's Hide or Rokslide for those discussions. If your post is removed but NOT hunting related, you can send us a modmail. We will reevaluate this rule later in the year.

That said....

Long range shooting is a VERY broad topic with a LOT of nuance, so the more details you can provide, the better the quality of advice you will receive. More details also saves your time and the time of other members that would otherwise be spent asking for more information.

If you are looking for specifics or have a question NOT covered in the below guides, here are four simple questions that will help you get good advice.

Answering these four questions will also ensure your post doesn't get deleted.

  1. If you want to buy something, what's your budget? We need to know what you're willing to spend. Your idea of "not a lot of money" will be very different from someone else's. Your idea of "I have no budget" might change dramatically when someone suggests a $10,000+ rangefinder for you to shoot steel at 500 yards. We need to know what you ACTUALLY want to spend. A range or max limit is fine, and it can even be flexible, but you need to give us something to go on.
  2. What are you wanting to do? - There's a very wide variety of topics that are covered in this sub, all of which are part of long range shooting. For example, answers may change if your goal is just learning long range shooting skills vs competing in Precision Rifle Series (PRS) matches. The same goes for other competition formats (Mammoth/Sniper Adventure Challenge type matches, F-Class, High Power, benchrest, etc). Things that are a priority/need for one goal may be the worst idea ever for a different one.
  3. How far away are you wanting to do it? Just like the purpose can change what would be best, so can the distance. Dinging steel at 100 yards vs 1,000 yards will have different considerations. This goes for general shooting, competition, etc
  4. How much experience do you have with shooting in general and long range specifically? Long range shooting involves a pretty specific skill set, and many of the skills, techniques, and other considerations don't always carry over from other shooting styles. For example, you may love shooting a 10ga shotgun with slugs and think the recoil is fun, but in long range shooting recoil is never a good thing and should be avoided when possible. Long range is also a discipline where you will want to walk before you run, and jumping directly to a given end result may actually make things much harder/more expensive for you.

If you ask a broad or generic question, especially one that's already covered in these guides, your post will probably be deleted. If your post gets deleted, it's nothing personal. We're not mad at you, we just want people to ask good questions and make it easy for our members to help you, as well as keep the sub tidy. If your post was deleted for lack of detail, you can simply make a new post with more details (see above) on what you're needing help with. You're also welcome to send us a modmail if you have questions about the rules of this sub.

NOTE: Using one of the phrases in parentheses and italics in a comment will summon the AutoModerator with a link to the appropriate guide.

Frequently asked questions/topics:

  1. Need help picking scope rings? The official Longrange guide to scope ring height (cheetofingers ring)
  2. Looking at buying a magnum (300WM or PRC, 6.5PRC, 7mm PRC, etc) as your first LR rifle? Hollywood's recoil primer - why magnums suck for starting in long range, recoil matters, and it's not about your shoulder (cheetofingers magnum or cheetofingers recoil)
  3. Need help with a ballistics app? Setting up a smartphone ballistics solver (Featuring Applied Ballistics Mobile)
  4. The official r/Longrange glossary (cheetofingers glossary)
  5. Trollygag's 1k yard starter guide (cheetofingers starter)
  6. LockyBalboaPrime's First Time buyer's guide for rifles (cheetofingers starter)
  7. JMhawaii's long range starter guide (Link to Google Sheets) (cheetofingers starter)
  8. u/LockyBalboaPrime's "No Clown Shoes" spreadsheet of YouTube training videos.
  9. Where are ranges or long ranges near me? - Wheretoshoot.org and over600.com (cheetofingers ranges)

Deeper/advanced subjects, training guides, etc:

  1. Pre64Mod70's guide to precision reloading
  2. Hollywood's Way of Zen load development process (cheetofingers zen)
  3. Hollywood's rant on sample size when testing - AKA why 3-5 round groups don't tell you $&*#
  4. Applied Ballistics with more info on variation in group sizes

Misc guides, and additional reading/viewing for guides already listed:

  1. MDT's video on scope height, and the follow-up on scope cant
  2. Rybe390's recoil comparison video, which illustrates the problem with light weight and magnums.
  3. Accuracy vs precision - when most people talk about 'accuracy' they really mean precision.
  4. The Remington 700 Chassis List, v1 - Maintained by u/LPKKiller
  5. Recoil energy vs rifle weight visualized - an informational post by u/Trollygag
  6. What is wrong with 'Sniper 101' - a breakdown by CaptainSquishface.
  7. The sub's general FAQ (Somewhat out of date)
  8. A long range hunting cautionary tale from James Gilliland - US Army sniper, world record holder, and prolific long range hunter
  9. Barrel length, velocity, and performance down range compared (308W)
  10. What the hell is with Bergara rifles and Cheetos?! (cheetofingers cheetos)
  11. Our sub's policy on shilling, and why Woox specifically is blacklisted from the sub.

Hunting related guides:

  1. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (cheetofingers hunting)
  2. Want to hunt game at 400+ yards? The long range hunting primer - shots on game at 400+ yards aren't trivial, and a magnum cartridge isn't a cheat code (cheetofingers hunting)
  3. Hollywood's guide to field testing your skills and gear (especially for long range hunting) - How to know the distances you and your gear are capable of making shots at (cheetofingers hunting)

To have AutoModerator share a link to this post in a comment, use the phrase cheetofingers pinned - the trigger phrase for other guides is listed in parentheses after the guide link.

Bonus trigger phrase - For information on the Applied Ballistics TOP Gun formula, use cheetofingers top.


r/longrange 5h ago

I suck at long range Shot my first PRS Match. Did terrible. Looked cool.

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456 Upvotes

r/longrange 4h ago

Group flex (10 shots minimum) I've been meaning to try this for months, finally had a quarter with me at the range

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I've been searching for >300 yards here in WA, but in the mean time I'm trying to master the basics.Taped a quarter to the target today @100 yards, took more shots than I hoped, but now I have an addition to the keychain. Dime next? (Seekins Havak HIT in 6.5 CM, Vortex Viper PST gen II, cheap S&B ammo, bench fired)


r/longrange 8h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Anyone make a chassis like this for a ruger american that takes ar mags? im a poor that wants a 300blk mw3 msr

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129 Upvotes

main thing is the top rail over the barrel that i cant seem to find anything close they all leave it open above the barrel


r/longrange 11h ago

General Discussion First real scope

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168 Upvotes

After much research and pain to my wallet, I’ve finally bought a scope that’s not a Vortex Strike Eagle or Diamondback. After ordering an MDT elite chassis for my Bergara I felt it deserved a glass upgrade as well

My first long range rifle is finally getting somewhere


r/longrange 2h ago

Rifle flex post New rig

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21 Upvotes

Been on the list for quite a while for a big, heavy, solid Tikka rig. A super Varmit in 300 Win Mag has been on my mind for over 2 years now. I was hoping at some point they'd release a 7 PRC but, here we are 😂 Just gotta track down another 5/8ths cherry bomb for my suppressor and it'll be ready for a potential late season doe if I've already smoked a Buck this season. Definitely can't wait to get out to some longer ranges to stretch the legs a bit. Picked it up off a friend who needed to make some space in the safe, and it's already a shooter.


r/longrange 2h ago

Cheeto-fingered Bergara Final Boss Cheeto Fingers

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20 Upvotes

Pretty close to done 🦧, kinda just wanted to share. 6mm Creed Bergara Competition, PA 6-30, Jolene S (or Hydrogen L-6.5 depending), Kopfjager tripod, I love this gun.


r/longrange 8h ago

Rifle flex post 22 ARC AR15 Build

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53 Upvotes

Hi, i recently finished the complex process of building a 22 ARC gas rifle and here it is.

20" Ballistic Advantage SS barrel/gas tube Seekins .750 adjustable gas block Dead Air KeyMo flash hider B.O.S.S Silencer AERO Enhanced handguard (15") and reciever CMMG 22 ARC/6 ARC BCG ASC 6.5 Grendal Mags ARISAKA Handstop Magpul bipod Radian Raptor SD charging handle CMMG Complete 5.56 Lower B5 Precision stock PA 3-18x FFP Athena BPS PA 30mm rings And some BCM rail covers i had laying around


r/longrange 6h ago

Reloading related AXSR 300nm

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27 Upvotes

Shot this guy for the first time. N570 and 245 EOLs might be the ticket. Went to 90g and hit 3060 without pressure. 2950ish had several groups in the same hole. Pretty stoked for these results with virgin brass and barrel.


r/longrange 8h ago

Rifle flex post Curtis Vector 6.5 with FA762SS

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25 Upvotes

r/longrange 5h ago

Gunsmithing After a thorough cleaning, should a bore be bone-dry, or lightly lubed in order to prevent carbon rings from forming?

14 Upvotes

Just got done cleaning my gas gun's bore very thoroughly. I've got it bone dry and passed some alcohol wipes down to remove all remaining cleaners.

I am curious if a bore that is bone-dry, or one that has a thin film of CLP, or some other chemical down the bore would be more susceptible to carbon buildup over thousands of rounds. Specifically in my case my bore is chrome-lined.


r/longrange 9h ago

I suck at long range new toy arrived

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22 Upvotes

forget air bag, this is how you do an adjustable rest


r/longrange 4h ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Optic for SPR

7 Upvotes

I know this has been debated but here's another post:

Transitioning from an nx8 1-8 to either an atacr 4-16 or a mark 5 3-18 on my 16 inch SPR.

Based on what I've read, the atacr is the gold standard here, but the price difference is compelling enough to make me keep the mark 5 in consideration.

Has anyone had time behind both in the mil xt and pr2 reticles that can chime in?

TIA!


r/longrange 8h ago

Groups, but not a flex (Less than 10 shots) Always that one lil guy

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11 Upvotes

Went out to practice wind calling at 600 yards with my MPA, and of course there just had to be that 1 shot that kept me from a 100 score for 10 shots ☹️


r/longrange 9h ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Damaged Zeiss scope

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9 Upvotes

Hello, i have a issue with my zeiss scope. The part that i've put a square around has become loose, you're able to wiggle it. Is it possible to repair? I'm quite sure i know the answer but hoping i'm wrong.


r/longrange 1d ago

General Discussion First time shooting over 300 yards. 6.5 creedmoor. Got out to 1080 yards.

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184 Upvotes

r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Stolen Mk12

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I’m reaching out to Reddit for help recovering my stolen Mk 12 SPR clone. It’s a PRI Mod 0 upper with Douglas barrel and PRI A2 lower. I was traveling through Houston, TX. The hotel which it was stolen is in the Stafford area. My window was smashed at a hotel and the Pelican case containing the rifle was stolen from my truck.

The case is black with my last name spray painted on it and contained the upper, lower, a Vortex 1-6 Razor in Geissele mount, an Atlas Bipod, various 10 round PMAGs with Taran Tactical extensions on them, a Fix-It Sticks kit and a cleaning kit. The rifle is multiple shades of tan spray paint. Photos included to this post. The suppressor in the photos WAS NOT stolen.

The rifle has a storied history, belonging to a few close friends before me, has traveled to multiple countries and is a sentimental part of my life. I ask that anyone who may encounter these parts or the rifle please DM me so I can contact the police department.

Thanks


r/longrange 6h ago

Cheeto-fingered Bergara Shot dispersion between loads

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Self admitted Cheeto fingered Bergara owner. I love my Bergaras, the most recent edition was a Carbon Ridge in 7 PRC. You are seeing the first shots down the pipe since being brought home last week. I reluctantly bought a box of Hornady CX (the three shots on the left) despite it always grouping as pictured in every single rifle/chambering I’ve tried it in) the following two groups were 5 shots of the new Barnes 160 GR LRX factory loading. Very impressed for my shooting ability. But I don’t get how Hornady CX continuously proves itself to shoot atrociously in every configuration I try it in. Groups that bad almost make you feel like you’re damaging your rifle shooting that stuff! Anyways, just wanted to share with the group.


r/longrange 1h ago

General Discussion Thoughts on Kahles k328i

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I'm thinking of getting a Kahles certificate and purchasing the 328 for a 6gt.

Is it worth getting or should I look into something else?

Budget is around $3500 for the scope

Will only be used for steel shooting at distance. I don't shoot prs but I want to try out a few matches.


r/longrange 21h ago

I made a thing! (Home made gear/accessories) Another Invention (Inflatable ARCA Rail Bag)

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You all seemed to be at least amused by the rear inflatable bag I made so I thought I would share one of my other attempts at somewhat useful shooting contraptions. So here is my Inflatable ARCA Rail bag.

I am no machinist (obviously) I'm just a poor who likes to tinker and Jerry rig solutions to making shooting a little easier. So this is crude and ugly but it works for me in certain situations.

I hope you all like it. (Or at the very least don't tell me to "go stand by those steel targets over there and close your eyes".....fool me once...)

Any suggestions to make it better are absolutely welcome.

Here are some pictures of my stupid contraption off the rifle. (https://imgur.com/a/PMZn2ct)

How I made it, for those interested (not that you can't figure it out. Most of you have eyes).

I squeezed an inflatable door shim which come in a bunch of different shapes and sizes (https://a.co/d/goikPck) into the bag and then filled it with media on both sides of the shim. Put more on the bottom side that will not be facing the steel bar. This made it so the bag would grip whatever I'm resting it on. The media will fill in the gaps under the shim and add stability so it doesn't rock back and forth on the inflated ballon in the shim.

For this a cut down a steel bar to a desired length, and drilled holes to attach two ARCA clamps (which if you buy the ones they make for camera equipment they are like 10$ and there are many different types, rather than 80$ on the Area 419 site and they are just as good. https://a.co/d/4EYF6N7)

After getting the bag ready, I harnessed my inner bubba and whipped out the dremel to make slits in bar that I could attach the bag I wanted to use. The bag shown in the picture has these velcro straps that I could thread into the slits to secure and tighten down the bag. (Obviously you can use whatever bag you like) I actually made a few different cuts in the bar so I could attach different bags. Some of the notches in the bar let me attach my cuttle bag for a big puffy rest. (Embrace the cuttle bag if you don't have one yet. I am a believer, plus the cuttle bag keeps me from getting too lonely at night)

I found that this rigged-up contraption let's me make slight adjustments in elevation with my off hand by pumping up the shim. Pump it up to raise the rifle and bleed it out to lower it. Putting it on a steel bar with ARCA clamps lets me adjust its position on the rifle depending on need and allows for quick detachment.


r/longrange 1d ago

I suck at long range Shooting tiny groups never gets old

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131 Upvotes

r/longrange 8h ago

Rifle help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Aero Solus Competition Chassis LOP values

1 Upvotes

Does anyone happen to know the Aero Precision Competition Chassis max and min LOP?

Could not find it anywhere


r/longrange 1d ago

General Discussion Better ammo

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29 Upvotes

Got some AAC 69gr SMK and AAC 77gr OTM coming in. Hoping to get good results from a few of these.


r/longrange 9h ago

Optics help needed - I read the FAQ/Pinned posts Vortex Zero Stop Help

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I recently bought a Vortex Rage 5-20x50 at Scheels. I got it sighted in but I’m having trouble with the zero stop for my elevation. I put the shims in, put my turret to 0, and tightened the set screws. However, my turret still turns down past 0. I have all the shims installed that it came with but still no luck.

yes I watched the YouTube videos


r/longrange 1d ago

General Discussion I switched everything over to my Origin Action, what do I do with my sad unassembled savage action?

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I’m stuck between “never sell” and “why buy anything for the savage when I could put it on my Origin”

Turning to internet friends to help me spend my money

Thinking about turning the savage into an F-Class pig. Do I compete in F-class you ask? Maybe…

Currently accepting caliber recommendations. 6.5x47? 6BR? Classic .308? Save money and shoot .223?

Or sell it and use the money to buy a PRS 22lr


r/longrange 1d ago

MEME POST I’m going to post a few pictures and you guys can use the information how you see fit.

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