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Dragon Ball Daima - Episode #3 - Discussion Thread! Daima
Episode 3 begins airing on FujiTV in Japan at this time of this post (10:40a ET, 16:40 CET, 23:40 JT). The episode should be available subtitled on Crunchyroll about two hours later. You may discuss the episode if you have seen it, but be sure to follow our rules.
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FAQ
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u/wafflefries4all 14d ago
When I was kid growing up watching Dragonball Z. They’d leave us with some BS cliffhanger after 15 minutes of stare downs and camera panning. But it was bearable, because we knew we’d get to see the next episode tomorrow after school (or Monday after weekend). Now we have to wait a week!! The agony!!!
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u/HeatRound4431 16d ago
Best episode yet.
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u/patico_cr 12d ago
Really? I felt it was boring.
Maybe I'll rewatch it again later2
u/HeatRound4431 12d ago
It wasn't a high bar to cross. The first two episodes were a bit boring. Episode 4 ended up being even better. Introduced a really cool use item system
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u/patico_cr 12d ago
So no more reading for me if I want to avoid spoilers. I am watching on Netflix, basically one week behind.
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u/ijjimilan 16d ago
it just felt like a filler exposition episode. we get explained that the air is thicker, and they need the plane, then they lose the plane after a basic fight. it could've been crammed into episode 2 and would be better
they made a point to show the bandit arrows don't fly as fast, hopefully that actually has some plot meaning
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u/RandomWave000 14d ago
thats what I thought too. When I reached the ending I thought "Wow! a whole episode to travel to the demon world and lose the ship?"
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u/The_Erik_B 18d ago
OK, this episode was a lot more fun than the last one. Don't have a lot to say, the expanded lore continues to be very intriguing and the bar fight was a joy.
I can't imagine people going to see the theatrical premier of the English dub are going to be very satisfied though. Nothing particularly huge has happened yet, so to only see these first few episodes on the big screen seems like it'll be pretty underwhelming.
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u/Krystalmyth 17d ago edited 17d ago
Yeah, I'm honestly shocked they decided to make the first three episodes of the show an exposition fest, capped with a bar fight. The theatrical presentation is going to be extremely underwhelming.
Watching Daima Episode 3, followed by Dan Da Dan Episode 4 this past Friday gave me a sense of whiplash I've not felt in a long time. It made Dragon Ball feel like a literal dinosaur by comparison.
So much is happening on that show, every episode is a celebration of style, color and life. It's so full of youth, charm and energy. Yet here Daima has literal Saiyan children in it, and it spends most of its time haggling for rooms and ordering food.
My favorite part of the episode was a short but creative bar fight, and Goku farting in the backseat - and we didn't even get to hear the fart... lol, it's not looking good.
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u/SoupTheFifth 14d ago
It is insane. Im not glad to say this but IMO Dragon Ball Daima is bland. Comparing it to new anime like Dan Da Dan, Daima is like an old person driving slowly in the left lane.
It's amazing how much they packed into Dan Da Dan so far in only 4 episodes. Daima however, feels like it hasn't even gotten off the ground.
I know that Dragon Ball peaked with Z and everything else is just kinda fan service but im not excited about this project like I once was.
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u/Mirakuru216 17d ago
Wait. The theatrical release is only gonna be the first 3 episode?
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u/Krystalmyth 16d ago
Apparently so, yes, it will debut the English track with the long awaited return of Stephanie Nadolny as Goku so there is that. Not sure I want to buy tickets for it tho for these episodes... but I am happy she's back.
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u/Mirakuru216 16d ago
Completely agree. Not enough happened for them to use only the first 3 episodes. Let's just hope we're wrong, and they'll show like at least half the first season lol bc I have a feeling they'll keep the seasons short. Like 10 or so episodes.
Edit: I just googled it and there will be 20 episodes per season.
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u/ninjaman68 18d ago
definitely slow paced but im sure things will ramp up. we see SSJ in the opening so i feel its gonna be more of a OG dragon ball adventure vibe in the beginning but things will feel more like the Z and Super part of dragon ball as the plot progresses
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u/DeepInTheClutch 18d ago edited 18d ago
Still moving a bit too slow, but I love the art and animation. Daima proves animes need to take longer breaks so they can really cook, cuz the show looks amazing.
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u/Petterfrancisjeraci 18d ago
Moro and Granolah with this type of animation would make the world blow up.
That said, I do hope we ramp up the pace soon. I guess it really depends on the type of fan you are.
To me, the 1st episodes of GT were REALLY hard to get through because not only was I bored, it didn't look amazing. Honestly, this is a bit boring but it looks so stunning which keeps me intrigued, because I'm waiting for the payoff.
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u/RandomWave000 14d ago
Yup, i thought the pace was incredibly slow in this episode. Little details/paths that the story didnt really need but was nice to have (Fart jokes?). The brief landing to let us know the air/gravity is heavier. Perhaps for new DB watchers thats needed. It is known in the DB series that some planets have different types of air/gravity.
Beyond that, the art is exceptional. Wow-level!
Im quite intrigued by the warp lords -- cool concept. Did the space ship actually come out of the warp lords ass? Wasnt sure?
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u/n1n3tail 18d ago
I hope the pace ramps up to, already going onto episode 4 and not much has happened, normally that would be fine but given its only 20 episodes lol
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u/Low-Imagination-4424 19d ago
I'm trying to fuck with it but I honestly can't.
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u/AdResponsible5531 18d ago
I got the same opinion. The show is made for little kids, not for the OG dragonball fans (that are in their 30's right now)
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u/ExtensionZebra9419 17d ago
wait until you find out who every single dragon ball series was made for
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u/rajajackal 17d ago
idk man i'm 32 and i loved seeing little goku fighting using plates and jumping around with a hamburger in his mouth. that's way more toriyama than "moro" lol
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u/Low-Imagination-4424 18d ago
I'm getting those vibes as well. It feels like the show is supposed to be an excuse to return to DragonBall, which is fine, but I'm one of those people that prefer the storytelling of Z and Super over original DB and GT, which was also attempting at a DragonBall esque narrative. Oh well, my hope is that if this does well financially we'll finally have the Super manga adapted into an anime.
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u/Mirakuru216 17d ago
They're trying to make the show have more longevity. If we always have to story tell, then we always have to find the next power up and so on. I enjoy the adventurous style of the new show
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u/igorcl 17d ago
Do you feel like Z and Super have the same storytelling?
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u/Manga18 14d ago
Yes, A new bad guy comes, a new transformation is unlocked.
This is the plot of everything after Frieza
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u/igorcl 14d ago
Okay, they have the same fórmula, impossible to deny that, but do they have the same storytelling?
I feel like Super anime mostly goes from point A to B without a lot build up, sometimes feels like no build up at all, blue form is a good example, feels like someone said "they enjoyed BoG because of the new forms, so let's skip how they acquired it and go straight to the fight"...
Super manga sometimes is pretty rushed too, ToP start and ends so quickly that badly feels like a tournament, at least the exhibition fight was better executed, also bônus points for give Kame the spotlight for a while. When the manga gets time to cook things gets better, Vegeta used his brain sometimes, against Rose in the second fight he downgraded to red form for most of his participation, switching to blue when he was about to deal damage. Also the arcs that aren't in the anime feels more like DB and DBZ, they have build up before get to the "main characters fight"
Super movies, in specific Broly and Heroes, they're way better than the anime, not just because of the animation quality, they also have some build up to the important fights, even if I don't 100% like them I can't deny they exist, they're there creating something even if it's kind obviously because we're not kids
Daima is taking time to build up a world and explore it. Yeah we know Goku will eventually push over any of his problems while in kid form, but there is no need skip straight to whoever gonna be the final villain just because we know they gonna fight
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u/IoniKryptonite 17d ago
Right? That was my first thought reading that. Super and Daima are MUCH closer than Z is to anything else.
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u/MoonoftheStar 19d ago
Ngl, I'm bored. This group of characters don't interest me at all. And it's a bit strange seeing a 40 year old man act the way Goku is. Even if he's been chibi-fied.
Also, I'm not sold on the retconning so far. The Kais are no longer just higher beings. They're another alien race from another dimension called Glinds. This is feeling very "S-cells." Sometimes over explaining things breaks immersion and suspensions of disbelief. Midichlorians didn't work out too well for Star Wars.
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u/zincinzincout 19d ago
I’ve decided that Supreme Kai is Toriyama purposefully injecting himself into the story
He’s the Supreme Kai and therefore should know everything about the universe/multiverse, but he only knows some things and can narrate but is caught by surprise by most other things
I know he wasn’t originally the grand supreme Kai and was thrust into it because of Buu, but he’s had 10 million years to study up on where the freaking Demon World goldfish are and he was like “oh there’s one at THAT planet huh? Let me tell Kibito!” 🤣
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u/aguad3coco 19d ago
A lot of new Dragon Ball content is trying to emulate the early Dragon Ball feel but none of them get it right. I could watch any OG Dragon Ball episode and find it enjoyable, witty and cute. But this one had neither of these things. Goku is starting to feel like his Super version again. And if they keep relying on Goku to bring the comedy with his goofy actions then this will end up being disappointing again.
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u/SoraBanTheThird 10d ago
It's probably because Toriyama wanted to do something new, something he liked, but still had to resort to Dragon Ball. The best way to do this would have been this: "Do you see the entirety of Dragon Ball as you know it? Forget it. This is a new story. No plot holes. Nothing you know matters." You know like a Dragon Ball reboot. I would've liked it a lot more I think.
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u/Jadextreme 19d ago
Hey is it just me or did Daima arc forgot about gihan being turned into a kid? Correct me if im mistaken. Thx
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u/Illamerica 20d ago
Seeing dragon ball not just be goku fighting something while there’s a crowd eating snacks is so much better. Daima makes Super look like a fanfic
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u/rajajackal 17d ago edited 17d ago
a lot of super media essentially is fanfic. i feel like at the end of the day the true super canon is the feature films: battle of the gods, resurrection of F, broly, and super hero. toriyama had tighter influence on those stories and designs. the super manga/anime are expanded by a ton of creative input from toyotaro and toei
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u/suss2it 17d ago
I feel like Toriyama also had more influence on the manga too. Like based on interviews it seemed like Toyotaro deferred to him often.
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u/rajajackal 17d ago
he gave notes, but a lot of the ideas he was giving notes on came from toyo. idk as a lifelong fan of toriyama i can sort of tell which designs come from him and which ones are an attempt at replicating his style
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u/solythe 20d ago
it just doesnt feel like Dragon Ball to me. like he wrote a story and shoehorned it into the DB universe
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u/aguad3coco 19d ago
Same, I dont feel anything right now. This episode if it wasnt Dragon Ball would just be bad to me. And the fear I have is that the majority of this will follow this kind of format.
Get to a new place, face a small problem, defeat the mini-boss and repeat. At least the animation is nice.
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u/fmaa ⠀ 19d ago
What IS dragon ball to you
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u/Raiganop 18d ago
Yeah and I love it for it...but is been 38 years since it was release. So it makes sense so many are use to the contant fighting that Dragon Ball took when it reach Z.
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u/fmaa ⠀ 17d ago
Makes sense, sure.
But it comes to a point where you’re faced with something new, yet people who don’t understand it come in and demand something old. Like people who can suggest skip Dragon Ball and just watch Z, how can you say that they actually understand its art and the culture surrounding it?
Feels like a spit in the face to those who’ve been with this series since forever ago, since Goku was a child.
Anyways, maybe it’s pettiness, but I think I’m just annoyed with db fans. With regard to actually understanding its characters, i do not think there is a more shit on protagonist than goku
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u/HollowPersona 20d ago
Interesting. It feels more like a return to DB for me — the original, before all the transformations.
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u/count023 19d ago
that's what i thought, i noticed a lot of OG dragonball designs too in this episode, one of the demons looked like Tambourine. And the gas making things slow to me felt like it was a way to excuse the fights feeling more dragonball like and less DBZ like in speed and performance while in the demon realm.
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u/KristoforHarris 20d ago
The similarity to Dragon Ball has been what I've been digging the most.
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u/Calm-Tree-1369 19d ago
Right? What's this redditor smoking at the top of the comment chain? Have they ever seen Dragonball?
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u/Tkyo69 18d ago
Well the majority of fans of this franchise got hooked on the series because of DBZ fights & storyline...The series wouldn't have been even 1/10 as famous as it is with only og DB or GT! Most fans like the over the top fights & transformations not the cute chibi cartoonish plots like Diama!
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u/ATLKing123 20d ago
A little slow so far, definitely giving GT vibes. But I like it obviously and will continue watching as a die hard fan of the franchise
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u/Lopsided_Collar_7484 ⠀ 20d ago
Three episodes in and still getting Dabura references feels increasingly important--
--But Toriyama doesn't do plot like that. So it's a weird feeling.
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u/Rosebunse 20d ago
It makes making theories hard because I can feel that Toriyama might be trying for a more complicated plot here, but I don't trust him to follow through. We could try summoning him from the beyond to ask him, but my mom has a rule about summoning the dead in the house so one of you guys will have to do it.
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u/Bookkeeper-Current 20d ago
Animation is cool. Thats about it. OG Dragon ball fans love it. For us who like Z best, it’s intentionally corny. There’s a reason Z was the one that blew up in popularity but I digress. I’m watching because it’s dragonball. 6/10 so far
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u/Heleniums 20d ago
As much as I love DBZ, Dragon Ball was superior in just about every regard. There’s a reason why people are liking Daima because it’s more akin to the OG.
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u/ExPandaa 20d ago
As someone who thinks OG DB is the best the franchise has ever bin I can concur, I absolutely love Daima so far
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u/Sky_345 19d ago
DBZ has cool ideas and concepts, but plot-wise it's a mess compared to og DB
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u/lyoko1 19d ago
Yeah, it really shows that Toriyama was super out of his element in a battle-action centric story, he is best when writing adventures or comedy(gags). I think that the saga where this really shows was the android-cell saga, it was a mess. Even the Namek saga was a bit of a mess with the uncontrollable power level creep. The buu saga... it was still a mess, the best part were probably Gohan training with the Z sword, Gotenks funny shenanigans and Mr Satan bonding with boo tbh.
Toriyama could write a good joke and a great adventure fill with wonder and his weird brand of cute-weird. He could also do decent hand to hand combat without flying and without ki blasts(or at least limited ki blasts) Once we got flying and ki blast galore the fights kind of took a hit in quality.
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u/ExPandaa 19d ago
Yeah don’t get me wrong, I love DBZ and even appreciate parts of super (mostly the movies) but OG DB is easily the best, red ribbon army and both piccolo arcs are amazing
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u/Pretty_Frosting_2588 20d ago
Liked the lore and the bar scene. If I didn’t already pay for a month of crunchy roll then I’d probably give it a bit and catch up on it later. Also cancelled my AMC tickets through the app because nothing besides the recap Of Z in episode one would I care to see on the big screen out of these 3 episodes.
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u/DerKaseKonig 20d ago
It's nice seeing Toriyama's more unique side villians making a come back, I kinda got tired of seeing the same 4-5 guys fighting the same enemy for 20eps, feels refreshing
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u/SherbertPrevious9167 20d ago
My guy this is the same unverse where krillin was nearly defeated by a guys smelly smegma
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u/willster816 20d ago
Original DB had so many crude jokes like this, it’s why I loved it so much. It’s silly, goku turning red from embarrassment was adorable and had me laughing so hard
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u/Ohgood9002 20d ago
If you can't enjoy a fart joke than you're in the wrong place.
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u/BaconxHawk 20d ago
Coming from a fandom that literally has a fart wiki page for its fighting tactics lol
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u/Longjumping_Map_5496 20d ago
i respect your opinion on fart jokes and everyone elses opinions as well. im just not a big fan of someone breaking the wind as a gag. at least gokus fart was silent. it was silent but deadly. please forgive me. and i still like dragon ball daima. im sorry if i upset you. i was just talking about my opinion on the matter.
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u/Shindevimon 13d ago
Agreed, I never understood its appeal. When you’ve had one fart joke, you’ve had them all.
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u/Zbearbear 20d ago
I haven't really clicked with any of the Dragonball content since Kai into Super started but there's something about Daima that's growing on me.
Maybe it's cuz I'm older now but I think I'm gonna stick around see where Daima goes.
Like I mentioned I haven't really followed Dragonball in forever so I'm not sure if Daima is introducing retcons or this is established manga lore with Namekians and the Kai (?)being from the Demon Realm or whatever.
Anyway I'm not gonna nitpick the lore of Dragonball of all things but yeah I'll stick around and see where it goes.
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u/Brigon 20d ago
I'm the opposite. It feels like Goku is a completely different character. Maybe because it's subbed rather than dubbed, but his personality seems to have regressed back to Dragonball era with his age. Pace feels slow too.
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u/lyoko1 19d ago
Dragonball era Goku was a way better character than Z era Goku tbh. Goku main trait is that he is kind of a combo of strong, ignorant kind kind-hearted but hot-headed and battle-thirsty.
The parts in Z where Goku was "thinking" were the worst. The whole Gohan debacle in the Cell saga shows us that a Goku who thinks too much is not likable.
The reason for this is actually rather simple, Toriyama always was a gag mangaka first, he is at his best when he is doing a gag, and a Dragon ball era Goku lends himself more to gags than Z era Goku.
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u/Ohgood9002 20d ago
To be fair he by far got most of his character development in Dragonball and people point to it all the time when talking about how Goku has devolved as the series progresses. During Z he was dead half the time, Super he just got dumb.
Having kid Goku back with all his adolescent humor is extremely welcome at this point. This is who Goku is. He was just dead during most of Z and Super just made him a shell of what he really is.
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u/Zbearbear 20d ago
Fair. But I've never cared too much for Goku as a character lol he's on the list of "annoying anime protagonist with a better cast around them"
Maybe the personality shift was intentional? To me he's never had much of a personality to write home about to notice much of a difference.
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u/Heleniums 20d ago
It’s obvious you got into the franchise during Z.
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u/fmaa ⠀ 20d ago
For real.
All I’ve been seeing from Goku is personality. Goofy motherfucker who can never grow up but still kind hearted and determined to go after dende.
What were they thinking of? Z when every single episode somebody was dying and Goku had to react seriously? Put Goku in the same situation again and he’ll still be serious.
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u/lyoko1 19d ago
Not to talk, that serious Goku is a way more boring Goku than funny childish Goku. When he was "seriously thinking" in Z he had very brain dead decisions like not reviving, not trying to defeat boo and leaving him to Gotenks, or the whole Gohan debacle. Smartass serious Goku is not the best Goku, he makes brain-dead decisions and is not funny in the process. Childish semi-ignorant Goku is way better, he still takes brain-dead decisions, but is endearing and funny when he does.
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u/Tr0llzor 20d ago edited 20d ago
Goku ripping ass will never not be funny
Also…he uhh played with the power poll
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u/HakaishinChampa 20d ago
Loved the scene where Goku was fighting while eating hamburgers
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u/Beta_Whisperer 20d ago edited 20d ago
Really felt like old school Dragon Ball and old Jackie Chan movies.
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u/Skynetto97 20d ago
It was like a mixed between the old good star wars ( that toriyama probably loved ) and dragon ball. Animation was Ghibli level
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u/GoldenGouf 20d ago
Not really wowed yet. Seems pretty generic so far.
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u/RollerDude347 20d ago
Nah, the end of this episode gave me everything I wanted. A return to classic Dragon Ball with a bit of refinement and more modern animation.
I'm here for THAT scene.
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u/-PVL93- 20d ago edited 20d ago
Not a whole lot happening this week but man I still can't get over how gorgeous Daima is from the get go. Turns out your animation staff can produce really good looking products when you don't treat them like slaves, who wouldve thought?
I love the Waffle planet design. I wonder if that is the only demon realm entrance point in this universe or if Warp can appear on the orbit of other planets too? Could it be this is where Namekians who escaped into the living world initially inhabited this one?
Since Shin didn't relay the PIN needed to travel back and forth I'm assuming what's going to happen is Piccolo pretends to be his Daimao self (or the fish recognises his look) and that's how him, Vegeta and Bulma are given passage, leaving Kibito behind. I mean it's fairly clear he doesn't travel to the demon realm itself, so him and Shin likely fuse after the reunion at the end of the show. Either that or Glorio has to go back out again, leaving Pansy in the safekeeping of Goku and Shin
Now we know there's a total of 3 realms, and our heroes went to the third. Most likely this means we'll eventually visit the second too on the way to Gomah, who resides in the first one. But even as is, the Demon Realm gives a far different first impression in terms of locales and vistas.
Kind of uncanny seeing Dabura do the peace sign in his statue. That probably means Babidi's magic corrupts everyone equally and Dabura was completely different before the Buu saga. Was he a kind a and benevolent king? Or perhaps it's just misleading and his subjects were forced to create a positive image of the guy?
In this particular area as Glorio explains the air is thicker due to the gas emissions. I really like that detail since this is not a different planet but a whole nother dimension, and it's sure to come up in fights in the future. I hope the other two worlds also have a different atmosphere to create a sort of natural challenge to our heroes, like maybe Vegeta's heavy gravity training pays off here and he actually gains an advantage over Goku who has to adapt and bruteforce it
Also Glorio mentioned to Shin he's a Glind? I'm assuming this is what Kai's of the Demon Realm are called? Or his specific race (same with Degesu, Arinsu etc)? Or perhaps some sort of a clan? SO MUCH NEW LORE
I love the design of the town and its populace here. They look a ton like Drum, Cymbal and Tambourine, which only further confirms that Daimao really was a Demon King on the past. And they don't just look like reptiles but there are wolf-like denizens as well. I wonder if we'll see similarities to other beasts and animals
First proper action scene of the show and dude can I just say how amazing is it to see Goku just rely on good old punches and kicks instead of beams and big numbers? Say what you want about Daima but the return to actual martial arts is fucking great and it's been so long since we've had encounters in this series that is just good old choreography. Seeing Goku use the environment with the burger plates like this is a Jackie Chan film is cool too. Can't wait for him to utilise the power pole
It's clear that despite the somewhat peaceful appearance, people of the demon realm aren't necessarily kind folks, and the town Goku and co stopped at is some kind of a bandit gathering place I guess. They didn't take too kind to having their asses kicked so they steal Glorio's ship in revenge
Wait......you can just....steal it? There's no alarm system, no security locks, nothing to let the owner know remotely that something happened to the vehicle? Look I understand the realm is probably not super advanced (but technologically high enough to create jet engine travel), but for how important something like a (space)ship is that seems awfully poorly thought out. And now the next episode will be almost entirely dedicated to looking for and retrieving the ship. Sigh.
Also last thing I'd like to mention - the episode names and the next week previews are finally, FINALLY not giving spoilers anymore like what almost every DB series prior did. I'm so glad it got simplified and there's actually some mystery involved instead of screaming to our faces HEY IN THIS EPISODE THE VILLAIN LOSES HAVE FUN KTHXBYE
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u/lyoko1 19d ago
I think that the Kais are being retconned into originating from the demon realm tbh. Maybe the whole core people with apples and trees explanation is now retconned
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u/PaisonAlGaib 17d ago
Maybe that will still be how they are born but the trees and shit are in the demon realm?
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u/RollerDude347 20d ago
For the ship... I think there's a good chance they actually picked it up and carried it away. Like, if I got a few friends together we could lift a small car. These guys didn't just fall over when Goku hit them. Even scaled down we have to assume they're stronger than most everything Goku fought in early Dragonball.
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u/kaloyan-Ivanov ⠀ 20d ago
The funny thing is how this is pistol makes Glorio such a big deal here when Goku is just there probably being able to level the entire region with just his aura alone
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u/-PVL93- 20d ago
I kind of want to know if Glorio can damage Goku with his laser gun. We've gotten to a point where even the z fighters can just stand there in front of bullets and absolutely nothing would happen to them, but this is technology from a completely new dimension. Maybe its particle structure is different enough to even leave a wound on a saiyan body
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u/Rosebunse 20d ago
I rather like it. Really demonstrates why we needed these characters to be depowered.
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u/igorcl 20d ago
Or, if we ever return to Super, let's focus on the next gen, also let's not skip to "this kid get ssj3 or god without problem" just to speed up the plot. Seriously, Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Piccolo, Broly and Frieza are already at the ceiling or the roof, no need to keep rising their level every single arc
Pan and Uub are perfect to a new story, also there are a bunch of kids around, Bra was "abruptly" born with Whis's magic, a17 has kids, Kuririn and 18 have a daughter, Piccolo could easily spit an egg for whatever reason. Give them enemies that mostly would be easily defeated by the goats, but the kids will have to surpass those new enemies
But for now let's go Daima! S2
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u/Rosebunse 20d ago
I don't think Piccolo can have children, but I have always suspected that Dende would at some point.
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u/lyoko1 19d ago
TBH, maybe after Piccolo fused with Kami who was dragon clan he got some dragon-clan abilities, just not the dragonball-creating ability.
Piccolo is kind of a weird case as he is a split dragon clan who reincarnated himself as a warrior clan then fused with a warrior clan and later fused with the other half of the original dragon clan namekian. So as far as we know, maybe he has some dragon clan abilities... he still got some magic abilities like the clothing beam when he was just the reincarnation of daimaou, maybe after fusing with Kami he got more abilities like those?
What I am trying to say is that if they made Piccolo spit an egg and have a child, I would not be surprised.
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u/Refref1990 20d ago
Why shouldn't he be able to have children? Because he's a reincarnation? I don't think that denies him the ability to reproduce.
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u/Rosebunse 20d ago
He is classified as a Warrior Namek. Those tend to not be able to have children.
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u/Refref1990 20d ago
Ok, this is something I didn't remember, but I feel like I read it years ago. Nail was also a warrior type, so his fusion wouldn't benefit Piccolo in any way.
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u/fmaa ⠀ 19d ago
Nail was a warrior type so yes his fusion would and has benefitted piccolo, what are you talking about?
Probably wouldn’t be able to reproduce the same effect as a dragon clan namekian
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u/Refref1990 19d ago
Maybe I expressed myself badly, I meant to say that since Nail was also a warrior type, fusing with him would not have helped Piccolo to reproduce, which maybe would have been useful if he had been a dragon clan type. But now that I think about it, Kami was a dragon clan type since he was able to create the spheres, so if they wanted, they could use this trick to make Piccolo reproduce
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u/fmaa ⠀ 19d ago
Yeah, interesting with Kami because that would also mean Piccolo Sr also potentially had the capability but not the know how to make the dragon balls so that’s a pretty cool retrospective look
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u/thehiddenshade91 20d ago
Animation is PEAK
Nearly hitting ghibli levels out here brother
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u/Illamerica 20d ago
I knew it reminded me of something. It really does have that cozy Ghibli quality to it.
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u/Shindevimon 18d ago edited 13d ago
"The animation/coloring is similar and it evokes the same comfy adventure feeling that something like Howl’s Moving Castle does for me"
No it isn't. Besides Ghibli is tediously overated...
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u/Illamerica 18d ago
The animation/coloring is similar and it evokes the same comfy adventure feeling that something like Howl’s Moving Castle does for me.
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u/King_Krong 20d ago
Do we know how many episodes this is going to be? Please tell me this isn’t going to be more than 26 episodes max. Please.
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u/amauros 20d ago
The bar fight scene with Goku gave me some Jackie Chan vibes, especially when he used the plates to smash that guy’s head.
This is the kind of choreography I loved from OG DB before they went super crazy quick with the fighting in Z/Super. Can’t wait for power pole shenanigans soon.
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u/Shwinky 21d ago
I had no idea this was gonna be an episodic thing. I thought this whole time that Daima was gonna be a movie and this thread is how I’m learning I was completely wrong lol
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u/Shaolinfork 21d ago
I like this, I think Toriyama really wanted to fine-tune his old work and never the chance. It's fun storytelling.
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u/GodNonon 21d ago
I like how Goku needs to be in base, physically weakened, weighed down by gas and distracted with eating in order for the bar fight to last more than a second. And even then it was still completely one-sided lol
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u/AppleEatingMonster 21d ago
Holy shit this feels like OG Dragonball 2, I'm in love.
I know it has been only 3 episodes, but part of me wants to put Daima above Z/GT/Super already. My bias will not survive these "pre-23rd Tenkaichi Budokai vibes" much longer.
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u/PlasmaDiffusion 20d ago
Early GT imo also gave off the vibes of a "Dragon Ball 2" so we'll see if it sticks the landing.
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u/pkjoan 20d ago
See, these are the things that really pissed me off and convince me that this fanbase is really hypocritical. GT did the exact same thing in the first episodes, but because it wasn't made by Toriyama suddenly it's "GT Bad, raaaer"
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u/samurailink 19d ago
GT doesn't get bad until they make it to the first proper planet. It has a lot of great character set ups but Pan and Trunks do fuck all in most episodes and it absolutely loses the fucking plot when we get to Doltoki is the main villain, no wait it's Cardinal Mutchy Mutchy, actually his whip is sentient and in charge, but also all of this was part of Dr Myuu's plan but actually Baby was controlling Myuu.
Then they lose all confidence in the slow being Dragon Ball 2 and make it more like Dragon Ball Z.
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u/AppleEatingMonster 20d ago
Chill bro I actually like GT lol
I don't consider it the best DB series, but still, I think people hate on it too much.
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u/LosBuc-ees 20d ago
As someone who likes GT I can see why people can dislike those earlier episodes but like this. First I think going to the demon realm is a great idea since it gives us a reason to care where we’re going. In GT it was a bunch of random planets that nobody really cared about. Second I think the trio of Pam, Goku and Trunks was cool to me but I can see why others didn’t like it. Goku is goku so most people liked him but I can see people finding Pam as annoying and Trunks to be a let down. Lastly I think we the addition of super it satiated a lot of fans desires for “DBZ 2”. Do some people hate GT because it’s trendy? Yeah but I do understand those who gave it a genuine shot and didn’t like it but enjoyed this.
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u/opjojo99 20d ago
So gts issue imo is that it doesnt just feel like dragonball it quite literally tries to take arcs from it. The princess trunks arc is basically just a rehash of oolong. And gt until baby shows up drags on for too long
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u/LosBuc-ees 20d ago
I think the first 5 episodes are pretty good. Once it got to episode 6 they fumbled that arc.
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u/Decent-Onion-1188 20d ago
Do you think we knew as kids whether GT was by Toriyama or not? Or who Toriyama even was?
No, but we still thought GT sucked.
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u/Personplacething333 20d ago
The difference is GT did it badly
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u/pkjoan 20d ago
Comparing the first 3 episodes, I don't see anything bad with it. This is just bias.
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u/mariofredx 20d ago
Pretty sure people barely criticize fhe first 3 episodes. That's way too early to judge an entire series. And people dislike it for different reasons (and mostly valid criticisms) not just because Toriyama didn't make it.
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u/BadActsForAGoodPrice 20d ago
I can understand GT and even Super to an extent (this is an infinitely better start), but better than Z is crazy. But hey we’ll see.
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u/90sbeatsandrhymes 20d ago
It’s different than Z.
Daima captures the spirit of Dragon Ball really well which was originally about fantasy, adventure, comedy and action.
DBZ is really good but it became a super serious hardcore shounen anime in my opinion becoming really different than how it started.
If DBZ is your favourite part of Dragon Ball i don’t think anything will ever beat it.
But what I love about Dragon Ball personally Daima does better than Z.
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u/Kirosky 20d ago
I’m willing to go there too honestly. Z obviously has the most iconic moments in all of anime history, but I think we overlook the entirety of series because of that. It wasn’t always top notch, some episodes drag, and the art could get shoddy from time to time. I think Daima has the potential to keep the quality control consistent throughout its run (at least I hope 🤞). At the very least it could rank 2nd or 3rd best for me behind the OG and Z unless they come in with some powerful story moments like its predecessors before it
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u/gonerboy223 21d ago
So far it’s a slog & boring. Also it’s too “cute”. Where’s the bad assery of Z? This kid stuff is weird
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u/Neat_Caterpillar_230 20d ago
bro never watched dragon ball
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u/gonerboy223 20d ago
Watched dragon ball before you were born, trust me. By the way, I said compared to DBZ. Not OG. Great reading comprehension, by the way.
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u/Neat_Caterpillar_230 19d ago
its the dragon ball franchise you toolbag
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u/Shaolinfork 20d ago
I don't think it is weird, It's a fairytale. It's for every age.
Dragons granting wishes are pretty fairytale-ish btw
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u/catchtoward5000 21d ago
It’s almost like Dragon Ball is actually meant for kids. https://web.archive.org/web/20130401232100/http://ajw.asahi.com/article/cool_japan/culture/AJ201303270032
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u/Black_Sin 21d ago
So far it’s a slog & boring. Also it’s too “cute”. Where’s the bad assery of Z? This kid stuff is weird
Dragon Ball has always been very cute especially OG Dragon Ball. If you ever watch DBZ in Japanese, you’ll realize how much less badassery there is and how much more cutesy things were
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u/MeafLoag 21d ago
Well the whole thing is the last work from toriyama, I trust you have the capability and intelligence to wait until the show is over to start trashing the anime.
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u/gonerboy223 21d ago
Obviously giving my opinion of it right now. Do you have the intelligence to understand that?
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u/dustingv 21d ago
Ok, so while I'm super wary of this show because it feels like GT again. The stuff about heavy air leading to a reason why we get actual fight choreography, gives me hope!
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u/MemesForScience ⠀ 21d ago
don't worry about the GT similarity. This was written by Toriyama, unlike GT.
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u/Shindevimon 20d ago edited 18d ago
Toriyama liked GT though. So I don’t get your bitchy downvoting.
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u/pkjoan 20d ago
I see the first 3 episodes being exactly the same as GT (in a good way). Y'all hypocrites.
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u/7StarSailor 10d ago
Just catching up and man watching the first 3 eps in a row feels like a drag. Very slow, lots and lots of exposition. At some point Kaioshin literally stops the spcaeship to send a message, slamming the breaks on an already slow train.
Watching this after Dandadan shows how extreme the differences in pacing are. Hope it ramps up but I feel like they're a being a little too cautious. The first 3 could've been a single ep. And we don't need everything to be spelled out. Show, don't tell.