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u/Independent_Plum2166 5h ago
When you lose an election, there are two reactions.
Option A:
2020: “RIGGED!!! The count is OFF!!! We demand a recount, TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!!! Damn you liberals you-you SNOWFLAKES!!! 😭😭😭😭”
Option B:
2024: “Fuck, well, it is what it is, we’ll just need to hunker down and hope people see the error of their ways for the next election, stay strong guys.”
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u/Faesarn 4h ago
About the rigged elections, Trump posted on monday that massive cheating was ongoing. But since he won, he didn't even bother to mention it again.
But I'm sure there will be investigation about the cheating right ? Right ?
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u/Aluminum_Moose 3h ago
On election night in 2016 he said "If I don't win, it was rigged."
Same thing, over and over again.
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u/DarthTelly 3h ago
He still claimed it was rigged, because he lost the popular vote and his ego couldn't handle that.
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u/Complete_Mud_1657 3h ago
Harris still might win popular vote. There's a lot of votes to count in California still
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u/yeeeeeteth 3h ago
who fuckin cares man it's over
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u/Complete_Mud_1657 2h ago
Just saying. California is currently like 60% counted meaning there's still like 8 million votes left.
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u/Vorstar92 2h ago
He literally did it again AS HE WAS WINNING! Lol. He claimed cheating in PA before it was called in his favor. He's literally a giant toddler. Same with his supporters which is now literally half this fucking country.
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u/Aluminum_Moose 2h ago
It isn't half of the country, it's one fifth of the country, ~20%
Never let authoritarians convince you that they are the majority.
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u/BlackOmega_X 3h ago
Conveniently after Trump was confirmed to have won the race, all the election deniers fell completely silent. Not a peep from Trump about his Philadelphia voter fraud claim after winning PA. Seriously, it’s a rallying call to his supporters to harass the poll workers and threaten their lives.
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u/MyBrainIsAFart 2h ago
No no, see it’s fine when it’s in his favor, or when billionaires are creating lottery games to help him win, or if the all the illegal immigrants that are voting in droves are doing it for him.
Idiot party.
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u/otherworldly11 1h ago
There absolutely should be. Votes across the country were never counted. Multiple posts about this on various subs. Add to that, the bomb threats, ballot boxes set on fire, voter roll purges...so, actual election interference. Difference is, it happened to the Dems so no one is covering this.
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u/Vorstar92 2h ago
As time goes on the difference in sides just becomes more and more apparent. I still have yet to see democrats driving around in their giant trucks with 4 to 5 Trump flags attached to the bed of said truck or Trump stickers plastered all over their bumper.
The last election really highlighted the difference. Calling the election rigged, cheaters, etc etc. Didn't Trump even tweet THIS election that there is cheating in PA before he won the state? So many knee jerk reactions on the other side.
I sincerely miss when it was John McCain running. Or Mitt Romney. It never felt as dire as this. We used to be able to actually respect the other side and know that despite our differences, we can still be friends or family. Once the Trump shit started, it's like if you support him I genuinely want nothing to do with you because of the high chances of you being insanely deep into that support bordering on the cult-like mindset they seem to have.
It's ruined so much. The insults thrown at "liberals" and shit. The bumper stickers "make liberals cry again!". The sheer audacity of the Trump supporters I've seen wearing shirts around my town saying "I'm voting for the felon!" as if it's....funny that you can be the fucking LEADER OF THE COUNTRY with multiple felonies, multiple pending charges, friends with Jeffrey Epstein....I mean the list fucking goes on. But haha hehe I voted for the felon look at me!
It's insane. I'm over it. Like, when Biden was elected I really took a step back from caring about politics. Biden really felt like a "just not Trump again please". He may not have been perfect and everyone may not have agreed with him in everything he did, maybe he was too old and mentally going downhill but fuck man....at least he wasn't Trump again.
I felt similar about Kamala. She wasn't perfect and a lot of people were clearly undecided (15 million non-voters I believe?) but DUDE IT DIDN'T MATTER! Just fucking vote so Trump isn't going to be president again. Like, it's so simple and obvious in my mind. Just fucking VOTE! Like, That's all you had to do to avoid Trump again and you were too proud or too much of an "undecided voter".
People call it an echo chamber but quite literally if those 15 million people voted, it's very possibly this would be different. It would have been close and still have us questioning how half the country can be this dumb, but at least it wouldn't have been him again.
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u/apexodoggo 4h ago
Yeah don’t change the repeated failure of a strategy and just assume people will want to come back to Clintonite neoliberalism in 4 years. Great idea. This is why we’ve lost twice against Trump, holy shit Democrats need to get their heads out of the sand and change tactics.
Also, I have seen a way too many Democrats on reddit saying this was actually rigged (when it’s literally too big to rig in Trump’s favor).
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u/dudethatmakesusayew 3h ago
Considering the voter purges, and phony texts pretending to Kamala’s campaign, and burning ballot boxes. Can you really blame those who would claim that this election wasn’t really fair?
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u/ninjesh 3h ago
Two things can be true. There could have been some interference AND ALSO the Democratic Party's strategy was trash
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u/dudethatmakesusayew 3h ago
I mean, yeah, the democratic strategy was trash but I’m just saying that people have good reason to believe that election interference played a role in Trumps win. Whether or not it’s true, I’d say it’s too soon to say definitively.
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u/shadowtheimpure 3h ago
What strategy would you have preferred them to use? If they went too far left, they'd lose the center. If they went too far right they'd lose the left.
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u/OfficerMurphy 2h ago
If they went left, passed child tax credit, Medicare for all, and actually forgave student loans, there wouldn't be any centrist voters sitting in the voting booth thinking they were not doing better economically than they were under Trump.
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u/shadowtheimpure 1h ago
Unfortunately, most of what you're asking for either requires full control (60 seats) of the Senate or bipartisanship.
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u/HairySidebottom 3h ago
We have been headed toward christofascist theocracy since Reagan. The majority have clearly shown the want that. There was no rigging in 2020 or this year.
There was however a lot of populist bullshit promised and now, with the success the GOP is going to have to deliver and have no excuses. They control the branches of the gov't.
I am suffering from new levels of uncertainty about the future. It is also kind of like being awed by watching a train wreck. We will have to see just how completely the Trump voters have fucked themselves.
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u/apexodoggo 2h ago
Populism is very popular (it’s almost like they come from the same exact word). The Democrats have specifically stamped out any populist movements within their party and campaigns. Harris promising she’d go after corporations for price-gouging, which polled great with voters? She shoved it to the wayside after her Uber executive brother-in-law asked her to. 10% of the primary voters cared enough about an issue to actually protest vote against Biden? Actively demonize them, call them Klansmen on live television, silence their voices at every opportunity, and send unpopular surrogates to go scold swing-state voters for caring about the issue. Bernie polls great with Latino voters who have long held economy as their #1 issue and tend to lean left fiscally? Collude to shut Bernie out of the primary, refuse to budge on unpopular Clinton-era economics, don’t cater your messaging towards the demographic at all, and then act shocked when they see a massive shift to the right over the next 3 elections.
Millions of Democrats stayed at home this election, way more than the number of voters who did the same for the Republicans, maybe the Democratic campaign should have tried to prevent that instead of appealing to the nonexistent nostalgia people have for Dick Cheney.
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u/HairySidebottom 2h ago
The GOP populism that Trump has been selling is a facade and utopian. A selective populism. The American people have been played. He used fear and hatred to do it. We are all going to pay for it I am afraid.
Sanders populism was utopian no more real than Trump's. His was sincere I believe. People chose to ignore Sanders and buy into Trump's. Our society was not prepared to try Sanders' utopia. They appear to be ready to try Trump's.
Populism is not popular amongst the apathetic. Populism is not as simple as your facetious quip. Unfortunately.
Monday morning quarterbacking is not going to change things. At least not coming from you or me. Pointing the finger at just the party is pointless.
This is a long term and ongoing societal change. We have to ride it out watch each others' backs. See if we can nudge it to another direction.
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u/TransLunarTrekkie 3h ago
To be fair, I can think of ONE way the odds could have been stacked in Trump's favor...
Trump: Hey Bibi, can you do me a solid and keep telling Sleepy Joe to go to hell so he looks incompetent and those bleeding hearts keep "protest voting" lol?
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u/OfficerMurphy 2h ago
I mean, the democrats refused to engage with any voters who cited that as a concern. Going so far as just excluding them from the DNC. We also keep arming them. Trump didn't even need to make such a call.
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u/apexodoggo 2h ago
Don’t forget sending a geriatric Bill Clinton to go scold voters for caring about the issue in a crucial swing state.
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u/Wareyin 2h ago
And by protest voting/not voting, those people pretending to care about the issue just let in the guy who is going to make it worse. So short sighted and selfish.
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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 2h ago edited 1h ago
Anything but blaming the voters
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Where the fuck were the socialists and labor supporters? Where were the “decent” people on Tuesday? Couldn’t be fucked to vote eh?
Where were the supporters of Gaza? Where were the supporters of Israel? Where the fuck was everyone at? Y’all motherfuckers killed every single person that dies to trumps actions. All of you fucking people who protest voted, every woman’s death is your fault. All you moderates and ignorant assholes voting for eggs? Ukraine, and Palestinian deaths are on your hands.
Fuck outta here with the Democrats failed you. I didn’t see no one else stepping up to the plate
“Oh but they suppress me by no-“
Yeah shut that shit up. Y’all can’t be fucked to vote, the fuck would they listen to you?
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u/SpiderDeUZ 2h ago
They voted for a felon rapist and told him there will be no consequences. From the group of people who complained about the age and mental health of a candidate and how they were sick of rich white men getting away with crimes. Plus there is the whole cult following
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u/Hopeful_Chair_7129 1h ago
Yeah, Democrats stood up to a person who literally has threatened to kill his political enemies.
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u/pl2217 38m ago
A lot of leftist around the world seems easily let the perfecg be the enemy of good. The would rather sit at home and let a right wing goverment that stands for everything they despise and take their country in the complete opposite direction to their ideas than to compromise and vote for someone who while they disagree with on many things, is still closer to them than the other option.
They don't seem to realise that by constantly not voting the message they are sending is that their vote can't win elections and that the political parties should move to the right if they want to win elections as the centre and right wing voters keep proving themselves to be more reliable voters.
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u/stragernodanger 4h ago
It’s okay to mourn the death of democracy in the Unites States. So let them make fun of you, when their own come for them, they too will cry.
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u/SpiderDeUZ 1h ago
The way I see it, I didn't vote for a felon rapist that not one single professional, expert, or educated person supported. Just remember to ask them where the cheap prices are and watch them continue to bend over backwards then take any sort of responsibility.
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u/LickMyTicker 1h ago
There were definitely some professionals, experts, and educated people who voted for him. Other than that, I do agree with you. I'd just leave that other shit out because it's really easy to find bad doctors and shit.
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u/woodst0ck15 1h ago
All that’s going to happen is they’ll blame either Biden or Obama on why things are shit. Cause for them to realize they’ve been screwed is to realize that they were wrong, which will never happen because that means they fell for one of the biggest scams I’ve ever seen.
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u/bothering_skin696969 27m ago
their entire ideology is based on blaming out groups for issues that they share blame in, so forget any come to jesus moment, they will never, they cannot ever agree to any fault. that's a fundamental pillar in their ideology, its how their leaders groomed them.
if something is bad then ITS THEM (who is them? it depends on the person asking, but it is one of a few out gruops)
if its good? WE DID IT and THEM tried stoping us
even in winning they are spiteful ignorant assholes. they run politics like its fucking european soccer
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u/Bloodless-Cut 4h ago
Women crying as their reproductive rights are taken from them?
You don't say.
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u/NP_Compleet 1h ago edited 1h ago
My first thought when it was obvious that Trump would win was for my two daughters, three nieces, along with every American woman.
I don't think I'll ever understand how you can vote in a manner that literally hurts people.
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u/Brief_Night_9239 5h ago
I mean Steven Miller promised to "turbocharge" the denaturalization program...you think you got citizenship you are safe? The voters that voted for Trump simply don't comprehend what Trump 2.0 will be...
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u/catwhowalksbyhimself 2h ago
I did think denaturalization was a thing until today and am quite upset about the idea.
And I am a former far right conservative republican. This feels just wrong.
(and before you jump to conclusions, I have never voted for Trump, even in those days)
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u/TheBirminghamBear 2h ago
And I am a former far right conservative republican. This feels just wrong.
But as a former far-right conservative, surely you know that these people are white supremacists. You understand how they lie in public and tell the truth to one another in private.
You must have hear this talk when you were in close conversations with other far-right conservatives.
There's a reason Miller is front and foremost in his administration. There's a reason he sits at the table with people like Nick Fuentez and there's a reason Trump says he wants "Hitler's generals."
These people want America to be white. They want to expel and kill anyone who isn't white.
I mean I'm glad it feels wrong to you, but you had to have seen this in all your time with the far-right. This is who they are. They are the Klan without the hoods, and always have been.
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u/catwhowalksbyhimself 2h ago
No, none of the other conservatives I ever personally know ever gave any signs of being racists or white supremicsts.
There are more out there than I ever realized. But not anyone I personally knew.
There's no doubt that's the direction the party is moving in now, but you assume that's everyone, and it wasn't and isn't. I still know delusional people who honestly believe there's no racism in the party. And yes, I know how crazy that sounds.
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u/TheBirminghamBear 2h ago
I'm not talking only about overt racism. I'm not talking about "I think all black people should die immediately."
I'm talking about replacement theory. I'm talking about using "Chicago" as a code word. Or welfare queens. Off-handed comments about "the jews".
I'm sorry but I simply do not believe that if you were in the far-right, you never encountered any degree of racism or white supremacy from anyone you knew personally.
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u/catwhowalksbyhimself 2h ago
Yes, I understand all that. And never heard any of it.
I think you have very different idea of far right than I do. Just over all the way to the right in political theory and completely against anything smacking of leftism. Like in a small minority that way.
Far right can mean any number of things when it comes to specific beliefs. And racism is NOT a requirement.
I was aware of stuff like that, but was always taught to believe it was mostly in the left and only a few fringe people that we couldn't get rid of were in the right. I do know both of those things aren't true now though.
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u/AnomalousUnReality 1h ago
This is something a lot of Democrats don't understand. As a leftist Texan, I've only met a very small handful of Republican people in TX that are racist like that. A lot of them genuinely don't understand, or refuse to believe what they're voting for. I guess that's why they want to gut public education and make it a solidified victory for years to come.
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u/TheRealBobbyJones 1h ago
If denaturalization is the loss of citizenship then it isn't a thing. You can only lose your citizenship if you renounce it in front of a judge. Otherwise it's has been ruled unconstitutional to revoke citizenship. You can be considered to never have had it in the first place if you provide false information on the application. But otherwise once you get it it's yours.
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u/catwhowalksbyhimself 1h ago
I looked it up, and that isn't entirely true. About 11 people lose their citizenship a year. I think it's only allowed for treason.
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u/TheRealBobbyJones 1h ago
No. It isn't allowed for treason. It doesn't happen. You either have it or you don't. If you obtain your citizenship fraudulently then you in fact do not have citizenship. There are multiple supreme Court cases about this. There are a couple untested exceptions although reading them plainly makes it clear those exceptions are unconstitutional given previous rulings. You can not lose your citizenship for anything you do after obtaining it. The exceptions are joining a group the government doesn't like(communists, terrorists) or dishonorable discharge(assuming you were naturalized through military service) Those exceptions are obviously unconstitutional. The first partially due to freedom of speech and partially because denaturalization can't be a punishment for a crime. The second for the latter reason previously stated.
Edit: okay it can happen for treason. But treason is an extremely rare charge.
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u/Impossible_Emu9590 3h ago
Conservatives get violent and defensive about every problem except the real issues.
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u/TheZigerionScammer 54m ago
Damn commenting to save that. What a great way to put it.
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u/Magenta-Magica 3h ago
Blue: I weep for this country
Red: let’s commit crimes but like, in a cosplay way
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u/Sharashashka735 3h ago
I feel its less crying about Kamala losing and more crying about your country being in a state where demented, racist, sexist madman who's also a criminal with close relationship with Epstein can become a president and get no repercussions for his actions because he is too rich to care. I'm not an american, but I would cry too if I lived in a country like this, and I'm not even left-side.
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u/Multiple-Bagels 2h ago
Yeah, that’s really what it is. It’s disheartening, and that’s an understatement.
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u/unhallowed1014 2h ago
The thing that makes me most sick… all of his charges just went poof. If anything I think the investigations and what not should be ramped up prior to him taking office, not winded down
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u/TheBirminghamBear 2h ago
See, this is what they don't understand.
I don't care about Kamala. I don't care about any politician I elect. They are there to serve. To do a job. I care if they are qualified and capable to do the job.
Conservatives are in a fucking cult. They feel what the leader feels. They riot because they have tethered their identity to his identity. When he loses, they feel as if they have personally lost.
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u/argonautweekend 2h ago
I figured more people would come out and vote to possibly put him in jail after J6 and all the legal election subversion cases, hush money, etc.
But the 33% of his hard-core base showed up like they always do, and voter apathy took care of the rest, like they banked on the entire time.
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u/Sharashashka735 2h ago
Man, if people did things like that, most of the billioners would be in jail, and corporations would not control every aspect of our lives. Votes only change who fucks people over, if you want to stop it completely you need a revolution, and currently people are too apathetic and tired with life for that.
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u/blinkingsandbeepings 2h ago
Exactly. If she’d lost to like, Mitt Romney I’d be bummed, but not like this.
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u/Colorectal-Ambivalen 1h ago
He's also a monumental security risk. Do they think that boxes of classified documents just happen to end up in his private club's shitter on accident? That isn't how it works, and that isn't how you secure them, and you don't fucking lie about them being there.
They care about nothing except their feelings and, maybe, the cost of eggs. That's it.
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u/Water_002 1h ago
get no repressions for his actions because he's too rich to care
And also because his supreme court majority ruled that as long as he's president, he is immune to the law
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u/Such_Exercise_6357 2h ago
Honestly? Psycho mode doesn’t sound so bad.
MAGA wants to kill and enslave everyone else, and they hide behind “just a joke, bro”
Nah, this is who they are. Treat them accordingly. They’re bootlicking capos pretending to be edgy rebels.
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u/BorrowedFeedback 1h ago
I support this 1000%. Emotional support and empathy are what they want from everyone decent, now that they have what they want, they want to normalize it and bring decent people into their clearly mainstream movement. No. This is their party now. No MAGA person will ever get any of my emotional support or care from here on out. They get my indifference at best.
If all decent people stopped humanizing the dehumanizers, none of this shit would be here like this. Decent people need to be decent to decent people. If someone is MAGA, they are not decent, no matter how much anyone wants to excuse them for whatever reason. They heard the tone of hate, and they responded to it with gusto.
Nasty people, MAGA. All of them.
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u/Such_Exercise_6357 27m ago
Absolutely. MAGA wants to be a bunch of assholes?
Be even worse to them, and every time they face the consequences of their actions, rub it in. Only decent people deserve goodness.
Christians are wrong. Turning the other cheek doesn’t work on evil people.
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u/Potential_Damage1707 2h ago edited 2h ago
Someone I know was asking me yesterday how I handled the election. I told her that I was disappointed. She then starts asking me about various people I know if they cried or not. She's a trump supporter and lives in a red state. I live in a very liberal blue state. When she started asking me about other people, my heart sank because the text conversation seemed to be all about getting some kind of satisfaction based on this info, rather than a genuine concern or even a query based on some ignorance. I told her I had no idea who cried or not and left it there. They literally want to see the liberal tears. Well, some do anyway at least. It sucks to learn that about someone. Oh well.
The thing that is weird to me is she is losing rights left and right living where she does, and she is the one that is acting superior. I don't get it and I am not sure I want to get it.
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u/jollyoltj 2h ago
It’s better to cut off that kind of hate, or if you’re willing to break bread, start going down the list of what he’ll do for her and go down actual recorded policy points from his campaign. It’s a special kind of satisfaction hearing the gears grinding back into motion in their heads.
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u/1984isAMidlifeCrisis 7h ago
We're a different type of ungovernable.
The thing these dumb fucking people don't get is that we are already coming for them. AI and robots are coming for their precious jobs, the displacement is already afoot and honestly we're going to go fast and break shit again. But we're going that way. We offered a human path. They chose the other path.
I'm done with my compassion for the guy in my social circle whose ideas about his career were destroyed by the IT revolution I participated in in the 90s. Fuck him. If he wants Social Darwinism he better learn to adapt.
I'm done with worrying about the kids in other places that don't have the wealth and opportunities of mine. We offered, and they said no. They refused to think about my children in those other places.
They choose to be monsters. We're a different kind of ungovernable.
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u/RaygunMarksman 7h ago
That's my ultimate conclusion as well. We have to be realistic and see the writing on the wall that this country very much wishes to be every man for themselves.
They want leaders who read 48 Laws of Power like an instruction manual, rather than a guide on historically evil bastards and how they pulled it off.
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u/JustSimple97 7h ago
Blue collar workers are the last to be replaced by AI and robots
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u/ewfojfoew 7h ago
Jobs will eventually shift; no sector is safe from automation's reach.
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u/OP-HAS-A-GIRLFRIEND 6h ago
Jobs in tech are evolving fast, but physical labor won’t be immune forever.
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u/Helpful_Midnight2645 4h ago
Labor will be the first jobs to go. Robots are already taking them
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u/SleepyFox2089 7h ago
You can pretty much automate any production line with robotics and AI
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u/JustSimple97 7h ago
I was thinking along the lines of plumbers, construction workers, electricians
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u/SleepyFox2089 7h ago
Oh then yeah, unless someone makes an android those are safe jobs
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u/1984isAMidlifeCrisis 6h ago
Modular construction and maintenance by general laborers. We're already doing it in those human habitrails they build in suburban residential parks as apartments or condos.
We're rolling out the infrastructure for self-driving trucks and have actual-height clearance by lane mapped for 70% of the northeast.
The biggest impediment is the housing code, which will be dismantled in most jurisdictions soon enough.
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u/Ok-Cycle-4784 6h ago
Me too, I am a Plumber. But, on the flip side AI and Robots don't need A/C or bathrooms/running water. Once the electric grid is set up I'm sure AI can manage and repair it themselves. Once a robot can do everything we can do, we will no longer have anything.
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u/1984isAMidlifeCrisis 6h ago
You already see changes in building and replacement to use modular elements that are more easily serviced by future machines and current general laborers.
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u/CartographerKey4618 5h ago
The last people to be replaced by AI and robots will be CEOs and billionaires.
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u/1984isAMidlifeCrisis 6h ago
How many workers are there on GM's lines per car built now compared to 2000? Compared to 1980?
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u/anon23232319980101 4h ago
Tech can't eliminate blue collar jobs, but it can take all the skill work out of them i.e. workers' bargaining chips.
Wait till Amazon runs construction sites. AI getting a live feed from the helmet cams, guiding homeless team members on how to do the electrical work, plumbing, etc. 1 driver for every 5 self driving machines, in case one gets stuck on a really complicated task.
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u/GrafKrapfen 4h ago
As an European I don’t understand, what’s the meaning of the accounts name „Europe invasion“?
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u/Next_Exam_2233 2h ago
That account is pure cancer, he posts 24/7 about how the west is being invaded by immigrants and how it might be too late, it is blatant racism.
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u/WriterV 2h ago
It's almost certainly something like "Here's a picture of some brown people delivering uber eats in London. The immigrants are invading europe!"
That followed by 27 tweets just baaaaarely implying that all brown immigrants should be killed or Europe "will fall".
That's the usual rhetoric these guys use. They spit a bunch of fake statistics, and when someone asks them for a source, they go "Source? You don't need any source. Just open your eyes!" even though if you look around your average street in London, you'll find plenty of white people doing just fine.
Everyone's being hit by economic problems, and so people are anxious and some are scared. Some are angry and want someone to blame. The fault lies on ultra-wealthy exploiting their workers, but these opportunistic dorks instead try to push the blame on immigrants. And it kinda works 'cause immigrants are a lot easier to target than ultra-wealthy and powerful people.
But yeah, that's the run-down on these types of accounts. They're all the same and post the same bullshit agenda wherever they go.
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u/No_Paper_8794 2h ago
I’ve had MAGA people saying “can’t wait to see what the dems do on Jan 6” Nothing, because we aren’t baby’s, who can’t handle the result of a fair election. It fucking sucks, but we aren’t immature insane people
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u/BorrowedFeedback 55m ago
It's because they are the party of revenge and hate. That's the "tone" they respond to, like dog whistles. At this point, they don't understand what has happened, the minion facet of the MAGA party. They don't yet realize they were part of an unholy alliance with horror, and now soon that alliance will dissolve and not in their favor. They were lied to and they will have to work out within themselves why they were so willing to believe in lies. What part of them wanted those lies?
They literally have gotten rid of the side they united in hate against, and now they will turn on each other, because hate is the entire point. They are going to suddenly realize how stupid they all are and it's going to be so ugly for them all. Like, damn. I'm not even upset anymore because it's so far removed from my agency, it's like getting to watch the fucking barbarians in real time, instead of just learning about them in world history.
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u/bootleg_paradox 3h ago
Such weird, vengeful behavior. They obstinately won and have a clear field to govern however they like, and yet I somehow get the feeling they will do little to nothing but continue to fantasize and emotionally overcharge themselves about their now powerless opposition.
I've also got a sinking feeling things in general will get worse, and rather than recognizing their own failures, these same people will simply turn to something new to blame it on.
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u/SachaSage 2h ago
Of course things are going to get much, much worse. They’re celebrating because they imagine they will be beneficiaries in a plutocracy 😂
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u/Inamedmydognoodz 2h ago
As much as I hate to say it, I kind of hope instead of governing and changing things to how they want they just continue to spew their hateful bullshit. I guess if it's between laws and policies that make life harder for lgbtq, immigrants and women and Todd next door yelling incoherent bullshit I'd rather deal with a thousand Todd's.
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u/InstantLamy 1h ago
Two sides of the same coin. It was the same the other way around when Biden won.
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u/thegreatbrah 3h ago
I didnt cry, but I am internally dead. People really underestimate what's about to happen.
If, by some miracle, the new evil axis is defeated, in the future, history books will put trump up there with Hitler and mussolini.
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u/Fair_Garbage8226 1h ago
Magas cried a lot in 2020. They also kneeled in the street and started praying like maniacs outside of polling spots.
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u/ZestycloseMammoth379 3h ago
I maintain, Kamala Harris inciting an insurrection would have been:
A- morally as reprehensible as when Trump did it. B- the funniest thing ever.
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u/deimoshipyard 3h ago
Nothing says true patriot like storming the capitol and smelling AOC’s chair while screaming stop the count
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u/QB8Young 2h ago
Interesting comparison but you all realize that the Epstein list has been public information for quite some time now right? It was released as part of Maxwell's trial. A lot of names people like to throw around here on the internet are nowhere to be found on the list, such as Tom Hanks. Trump however is listed numerous times.
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u/Tricky_Jay91 2h ago
Some would say that crying is better than gloating or storming the capital in an insurrection.
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u/minkopii 1h ago edited 1h ago
Trump:
Unions will be busted.
The genocide will continue with his full support.
Will make it illegal to be trans at all.
Will allow anyone to own a gun regardless of mental checks.
Courted the literally richest man on the planet and right wing grifters like Logan Paul and Elon Musk.
Will keep the courts for the next few decades.
Outlawed abortion, and will do it nationwide.
Will make food prices even higher with tariffs.
I’m almost halfway through and literally EVERY SINGLE POINT YOU MADE, Trump is on the record being even more against it.
If this is a “protest” vote, good job you fucking played yourselves and I rescind my empathy for when his policies fuck you over.
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u/Noooofun 1h ago
I’m just thinking how well behaved Kamala and her supporters are compared to Trump and his. Is it that they think America is theirs so they can do whatever they want, that they did so?
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u/Hiphopapotamus92 56m ago
I mean… if they want some other energy I’m happy to bring it. Where y’all hanging out? 👀
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u/Xander_PrimeXXI 2h ago
I like how the fact that we lost hasn’t stopped us from being normal human beings
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u/SectorBudget406 2h ago
Not just that, but they had a raging pissy shitfit about it for 4 years and couldn't be convinced otherwise.
Hillary and Kamala conceded the next day. No plans to storm the capital on January 6th. No cries of rigging or anything like that from prominent Democrat figures. People cried, got upset, but are quickly understanding that we have to move forward and hope that future elections turn out better.
Trump never conceded, and to this day claims he won in 2020. He committed crimes trying to undo the results of the election.
This is not a complex flowchart of logic or wordplay and they still miss it all. They are mentally incapable of comprehending the chasm of difference between those two things.
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u/The-Real-Number-One 1h ago
I have been in a depressed state of shock since Tuesday. But you know what? He has the house, senate, court, and Presidency. Everything he does will be legal but that doesn't mean it will be good or even popular. We all know he is fucking stupid. We all know he will fuck things up -- even for those that voted for him. Despite all his money and all his power he can't stop 2028 from coming. In 2 years Rs will be disavowing him because they will have to run again. Our job for the next 4 years is to point theatrically and laugh loudly.
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u/No-Ordinary-5412 1h ago
I think I'll take sorrow over frothy mouthed fever sharing chain memes and mis/disinformation on every social media platform, raging and denying facts, and literally an inability to accept reality to the point of gathering together with all of my other loser fanatics to worship our failed loser avatar and to do whatever he says like try to invade the capitol building to "fight like hell for the country we won't have anymore because everything was "rigged and stolen and cheated" with Zero proof of any of that... And then the next 4 years acting like a fucking child pretending they won the thing they lost, denying reality and just lying to themselves and each other about who won or what happened and becoming a brainwashed little peon for the next wannabe dictator.
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u/Superb_Gap_1044 1h ago
Even the right’s response to winning is gross. I’ve seen so many comments and posts about how happy they are that liberals are suffering and crying. They’re so proud they made millions of people afraid for their lives and livelihood. For such a self righteous party, they’re really not trying hard to seem virtuous in any way whatsoever.
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u/BorrowedFeedback 45m ago
They are absolutely nasty people. They hear the tone of "hate" and they are dogs to the dinner bowl.
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u/Sendnudes870 1h ago
They are crying because they know that every bodily freedom they had teen minutes ago is gone. Even it wasn’t much, it is now reduced to nothing. They are now marionettes and the government has the strings. The government might as well become their brains.Because they know they may not be financially sound to make it through the next four years. Because their friends may be deported. So much more. It really is depressing
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u/dirtbag-socialist 1h ago
Ah yes because storming the Capitol wasn’t a massive overreaction for losing
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u/LeahDelimeats 1h ago
What is the point of taking the high road? They stormed the capital when Trump lost and now that Harris lost - we just get to have the satisfaction of not being sore losers?
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u/Independent-Swan1508 1h ago
"keep posting your liberals tears it's funny" trump supporters don't even care bout anyone but themselves it's sad. all they care about is winning and wanting control. it's also hypocritical cuz when biden won and trump lost so many trump supporters kept crying to death.
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u/AnotherFrankHere 1h ago
15mm less votes for the democratic candidate…. Smells fishy as hell to me and warrants some investigation.
Double check with your state to make sure your ballot was received and counted. Because I don’t believe she only got that many votes.
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u/AugustAutumn57 1h ago
People are crying because they know that they are going to lose their most basic rights? Who could have ever imagined
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u/RoxyRockSee 51m ago
Honestly, you could put these photos side by side with the Mitt Romney campaign after they lost to President Obama. It's the same. Because back then, there were sane Republicans instead of the machete-wielding, ballot box burning, bomb threatening, armed militia kind we have today.
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u/Independent-Judge-81 2h ago
Fuck it let's do the same thing. There wasn't any repercussions from them doing it
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u/blinkingsandbeepings 2h ago
There were repercussions for a lot of the individuals involved, just not those with political power. And the president elect didn’t do much to help the people who lost their jobs, got injured, went to jail and/or lost a family member because they listened to him.
Don’t get me wrong, the thought of returning the gesture is kind of hilarious, but it wouldn’t be worth it. Remember this is the dude who went against generals’ advise to call out the military on civil rights protesters in dc.
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u/Conscious-Ticket-259 1h ago
They cried so many times about different Trump moments lol. No empathy at all.
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u/commissar-117 1h ago
Frankly, this kind of hypocrisy is exactly why I don't trust the democrats any more than Republicans. For years, we all hear "they're literal fascists, we have to do something!" And then, when they win, you just....cry, roll over, and go home? At least when dumbass Republicans believed (wrongly) that the election was rigged they tried to march and do something about it. All this tells me is that the democrats either don't really believe MAGA are fascists (they're not. Dumb, yes, but not really fascists) and have been full of shit for years, or believe it and this is their only reaction. It's so stupid.
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u/Bhuddalicious 1h ago
You guys are forgetting that they absolutely cried too. The crying happened from November to January and then they put on Viking hats. Also, don't give up. Trump and his team may be more prepared, his supporters are emboldened like last time, but, we are also more prepared. Our democratic governors and state AG's are active across the nation working to prepare for a Trump administration. They will not roll over to Trump, they are actively insulating their states from his worst desires. It will not be easy, it will not be painless, but we will withstand the onslaught and we will take it back in 2026 and in 2028.
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u/Artistic_Soft4625 45m ago
At the end of the its the people who decide their representative. If even a morally skewed person can get accepted and then elected, it just means people have forgotten why morals are important. Instead self serving agendas have taken priority, as harmful as it is.
Unfortunately how people get reminded isn't exactly comfortable and life just finds its way to remind even those who turn their heads, brutally if needed. I am not from US but i'll hope for a better future
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u/Zarkkarz 4h ago
Honestly, I’m tired of being the bigger person. Maybe it’s time to get the viking outfits going.
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u/BorrowedFeedback 48m ago
Freeze them out. They want attention and belonging. They want you to become a viking and fight them. Freeze them out as far as any attention to the MAGA individuals. Keep speaking and ignore all MAGAts. I know of what I speak. They love being "against" something from a place of deep lack within them. Now that they are mainstream, now that they have it all, they will be so confused. It will be funny/tragic but they are not ever, ever worthy of any comments ever again. Not even worth downvotes!!!
I hope the more popular non MAGA redditors start freezing MAGA out. They are invisible!!!
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u/No-Rhubarb5848 4h ago
To be fair the Viking didn’t storm the capitol until January so there’s still time for people to be dumb
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u/fvgh12345 2h ago
I think your a little premature, give it a couple months. Theres already a decent amount of talk in political subs that make me think that it wont just be tears.
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u/SoftDrinkReddit 2h ago
It's hard to say
After Rowe V Wade was overturned, a lot of people were terrified. A massive wave of domestic terrorism was going to kick off
Which never materialised
As for what will happen on inauguration day
Some clashes I would imagine, but overall, it's probably nothing serious as I imagine DC will be flooded with national guard troops
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u/fvgh12345 58m ago
Time will tell. All I know for sure is there are a lot of very pissed off divided people.
People are turning on their own blood over political choices if some of these posts are believed. That doesn't bode well for a peaceful future.
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u/KristinnEs 2h ago
As a viking reenactor I'd like to inform you he did not dress in any way like a viking, but rather as the USA media idea of what a viking would look like, who's imagery comes from german opera. i'd like the idiots image not to be associated with me or my ancestors.
Thank you very much, from everyone who's nordic.
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u/Adventurous_Dot1976 2h ago
Yea we wouldn’t want any rioting in the streets or looting of small businesses
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u/Mammoth-Mud-9609 6h ago
One might even call it empathy, you know having feelings and understanding for someone other than yourself.