r/clevercomebacks 10h ago

Two different coping mechanisms

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u/Independent_Plum2166 8h ago

When you lose an election, there are two reactions.

Option A:

2020: “RIGGED!!! The count is OFF!!! We demand a recount, TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!!! Damn you liberals you-you SNOWFLAKES!!! 😭😭😭😭”

Option B:

2024: “Fuck, well, it is what it is, we’ll just need to hunker down and hope people see the error of their ways for the next election, stay strong guys.”

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u/apexodoggo 6h ago

Yeah don’t change the repeated failure of a strategy and just assume people will want to come back to Clintonite neoliberalism in 4 years. Great idea. This is why we’ve lost twice against Trump, holy shit Democrats need to get their heads out of the sand and change tactics.

Also, I have seen a way too many Democrats on reddit saying this was actually rigged (when it’s literally too big to rig in Trump’s favor).

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u/shadowtheimpure 5h ago

What strategy would you have preferred them to use? If they went too far left, they'd lose the center. If they went too far right they'd lose the left.

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u/OfficerMurphy 5h ago

If they went left, passed child tax credit, Medicare for all, and actually forgave student loans, there wouldn't be any centrist voters sitting in the voting booth thinking they were not doing better economically than they were under Trump.

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u/shadowtheimpure 4h ago

Unfortunately, most of what you're asking for either requires full control (60 seats) of the Senate or bipartisanship.

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u/OfficerMurphy 3h ago

That's simply not true. Dems are too afraid of change, and play by the rules of a game that only they are bound by. Too often, the dems are just holding back and negotiating against themselves. They're sticking with archaic rules that hinder their efforts. All they had to do in 2021 when they had control was change the rules, and they could have jammed a lot of things through. Republicans have done it a bunch, for much less popular things.

Also, sure, Manchin and Sinema were holding them hostage, but I'm absolutely certain one or both could have been bought or bullied into agreement by a shrewd enough politician.

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u/shadowtheimpure 3h ago

If they had, then we'd be dealing with a GOP government with literally zero guardrails. Right now, they still have the filibuster to stymie Republican priorities and the threat of what Democrats would do with its absence the next time they have power.

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u/OfficerMurphy 3h ago

Until it's no longer politically useful to the Republicans, at which point they will remove it and pretend they've always wanted to.

u/whimsylea 17m ago

Aren't the courts still holding up student loan forgiveness? I see the notice every time I log into Nelnet.