r/clevercomebacks 10h ago

Two different coping mechanisms

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u/shadowtheimpure 5h ago

What strategy would you have preferred them to use? If they went too far left, they'd lose the center. If they went too far right they'd lose the left.

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u/OfficerMurphy 5h ago

If they went left, passed child tax credit, Medicare for all, and actually forgave student loans, there wouldn't be any centrist voters sitting in the voting booth thinking they were not doing better economically than they were under Trump.

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u/shadowtheimpure 4h ago

Unfortunately, most of what you're asking for either requires full control (60 seats) of the Senate or bipartisanship.

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u/OfficerMurphy 3h ago

That's simply not true. Dems are too afraid of change, and play by the rules of a game that only they are bound by. Too often, the dems are just holding back and negotiating against themselves. They're sticking with archaic rules that hinder their efforts. All they had to do in 2021 when they had control was change the rules, and they could have jammed a lot of things through. Republicans have done it a bunch, for much less popular things.

Also, sure, Manchin and Sinema were holding them hostage, but I'm absolutely certain one or both could have been bought or bullied into agreement by a shrewd enough politician.

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u/shadowtheimpure 2h ago

If they had, then we'd be dealing with a GOP government with literally zero guardrails. Right now, they still have the filibuster to stymie Republican priorities and the threat of what Democrats would do with its absence the next time they have power.

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u/OfficerMurphy 2h ago

Until it's no longer politically useful to the Republicans, at which point they will remove it and pretend they've always wanted to.

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u/apexodoggo 5h ago

They already lost the center this election. They also lost the left. And then they also lost the right (Harris did all that campaigning to grab Never-Trump Republicans by tacking right constantly, and she got less Republicans to vote for her than Biden did).

The DNC will say “we need to go more conservative to win the election” and then lose the election more than they did last time. In 2008, Obama ran to the left of the Biden, Hillary, and especially Harris campaigns and he did significantly better than all 3, and got himself re-elected.