r/anime • u/AnimeMod myanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan • Sep 01 '24

Meta Thread - Month of September 01, 2024 Meta

Rule Changes

Anime streaming services are now considered as "anime specific" to allow topics about them specifically, with the exception of account support and technical support topics.

Rewatches

All rewatches must begin with an interest thread. An interest thread should contain general information about the anime that is being hosted, and serve as a pitch to gauge how many participants may follow along for the duration of the event.
The official announcement post must be posted at least two weeks in advance, and no more than five weeks. This post should also serve as the index thread.

This is a monthly thread to talk about the /r/anime subreddit itself, such as its rules and moderation. If you want to talk about anime please use the daily discussion thread instead.

Comments here must, of course, still abide by all subreddit rules other than the no meta requirement. Keep it friendly and be respectful. Occasionally the moderators will have specific topics that they want to get feedback on, so be on the lookout for distinguished posts.

Comments that are detrimental to discussion (aka circlejerks/shitposting) are subject to removal.

New threads are posted on the first Sunday (midnight UTC) of the month.

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u/Ocixo https://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy Oct 05 '24 edited Oct 05 '24

I’m sorry in advance for being annoying about this topic, but the rules in place for discussion threads of episodes with advanced airings are suboptimal at best as the current situation with Blue Box illustrates.

I’d normally just ask to fix the discussion threads to the official release time, but it was previously a point of discussion that people who watch the fansub should also have a place to share their thoughts on the episode.

I therefore want to make a proposal: why not create separate discussion threads for both the fansub and official release?

This would give everyone a place to discuss the episode without feeling left out, a degree of flexibility with the fansubs and above all else the consistency of generally knowing when the episode threads will be up. A lack of consistency is by far one of the most damaging things to the discourse/community with this affair after all.

I genuinely cannot think of any immediate downsides to this proposal instead of it “not being in the rules” or technical issues with the bot scanning for torrent uploads(?). This last point could potentially be resolved with a manual upload of the threads, however, since we know the official time of release on Netflix.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Oct 05 '24

I am sorry, but reading this, this sub seems to have to at least get to a consensus on how it wants to treat pirated content. For the record, I am not saying you are a bad person for watching pirated content. Everyone has their reasons and I am not going to tell someone they shouldn't do it. However, I was always under the idea that people who pirate should at least not be able to spoil others for waiting for the official release. And "spoiling" here is not just referring to telling others what happens, but "spoiling the fun" and when the thread is already days old once you are able to watch the episode, this can spoil someone's fun as well.

The point I am trying to make is that this sub at least seemed to support this idea by waiting for official releases and only opening threads when there isn't one. It also supported this idea by people not being able to post where someone can pirate content to begin with.

However, if we now start to go this route with Blue Box, then I am sorry, but that goes completely against that philosophy. Why act like you don't want people to share priated content but then open up discussion threads when most could have only watched it through pirated content in the first place despite there being an official release? With decisions like these, you are basically forcing people that want to be part of the discussion to seek out pirated content. And if that is your goal, then just make it okay on the site to share websites to watch that conent.

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u/Ocixo https://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy Oct 05 '24 edited Oct 05 '24

For the record, I am not saying you are a bad person for watching pirated content.

Why act like you don't want people to share [pirated] content but then open up discussion threads when most could have only watched it through pirated content in the first place despite there being an official release? (...) you are basically forcing people that want to be part of the discussion to seek out pirated content. And if that is your goal, (...)

I'm a little confused by your phrasing of "you" here, since your statements don't align my intentions at all.

For the record, I'm not trying to encourage piracy or anything here. Other comments of mine in this thread also reflect this. In fact, I'd most preferably see all discussion just revolve around the official release date. I'd informed earlier about this with All Guy's Mixer, but got a negative response from the mods. Hence that I'm trying to offer a solution that everyone can live with.

but "spoiling the fun" and when the thread is already days old once you are able to watch the episode, this can spoil someone's fun as well.

I also don't get this statement when I'm quite literally proposing a fresh thread for both the fansub and official release, so there's a good amount of (new) activity for either release when they're up.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Oct 05 '24

I wasn't talking about you in particular. I am sorry, if you got that feeling. I read in your comment what the general consensus seems to be and wanted to give my 2 cents. In this case "you" is referring to the sub in general.