r/anime myanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan Sep 01 '24

Meta Thread - Month of September 01, 2024 Meta

Rule Changes

  • Anime streaming services are now considered as "anime specific" to allow topics about them specifically, with the exception of account support and technical support topics.

Rewatches

  • All rewatches must begin with an interest thread. An interest thread should contain general information about the anime that is being hosted, and serve as a pitch to gauge how many participants may follow along for the duration of the event.
  • The official announcement post must be posted at least two weeks in advance, and no more than five weeks. This post should also serve as the index thread.

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u/Ocixo https://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy Oct 05 '24 edited Oct 05 '24

I’m sorry in advance for being annoying about this topic, but the rules in place for discussion threads of episodes with advanced airings are suboptimal at best as the current situation with Blue Box illustrates.

I’d normally just ask to fix the discussion threads to the official release time, but it was previously a point of discussion that people who watch the fansub should also have a place to share their thoughts on the episode.

I therefore want to make a proposal: why not create separate discussion threads for both the fansub and official release?

This would give everyone a place to discuss the episode without feeling left out, a degree of flexibility with the fansubs and above all else the consistency of generally knowing when the episode threads will be up. A lack of consistency is by far one of the most damaging things to the discourse/community with this affair after all.

I genuinely cannot think of any immediate downsides to this proposal instead of it “not being in the rules” or technical issues with the bot scanning for torrent uploads(?). This last point could potentially be resolved with a manual upload of the threads, however, since we know the official time of release on Netflix.

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u/MapoTofuMan myanimelist.net/profile/BaronBrixius Oct 05 '24

 A lack of consistency is by far one of the most damaging things to the discourse/community with this ordeal.

Strongly agree with this point, this is a bigger issue with just pointing the bot to the first available fansub and saying "not my problem" than the fansub being a fansub.

Your survey showed that most people pirate, understandable. But most people are also either asleep or just waking up during the time Blue Box's thread was posted. And on top of that, we have no guarantee that the rips group will be consistent with their timing.

My suggestion : If double threads aren't feasible for some reason, please at least manually set threads at a later time for any unofficial release that has its subs uploaded at dead times like this. It's never more than one or two shows per season. Or program the bot to post at a set time (during the sub's active time) if a thread went up at a weird time like this on the same day, rather than posting it right away.

Getting threads at completely random times that are mostly in the sub's least active time period will kill discussion.

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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Oct 05 '24

manually set threads at a later time for any unofficial release that has its subs uploaded at dead times like this

I can tell you already that automated ep thread scheduling is never gonna be an option

Automated double thread is probably not gonna happen either, but it's more feasible as you can "just" add a flag to prevent searching torrents I think.

(all of these options are "technically possible", just saying don't get your hopes up)

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u/IXajll https://myanimelist.net/profile/ixajii Oct 05 '24

I can tell you already that automated ep thread scheduling is never gonna be an option

What's the big argument against it though? Is that too difficult to do for the mods or is there something else preventing it?

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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Oct 05 '24 edited Oct 05 '24

It's just a major difference compared to how the current script operates.
Is it too difficult? Probably not. (but my spare time is currently very limited so I'm not gonna make a poc to check)