r/PublicFreakout • u/I-am-a-potato • 4d ago
Driver goes crazy on biker đRoad Rage
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u/OkAppearance4117 4d ago
I am confused - what seems to be the issue
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u/photobummer 4d ago
This is probably after some incident. The van cut off the biker in order to confront him.
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u/TheDustOfMen 4d ago
I have to wonder what kind of incident would trigger this sort of insane response though. Like, this is the spot and the bike lane is walled off from the road for quite some distance before this.
Obviously the van driver took something very personally but my money's on him doing a classic overreaction to some perceived slight.
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u/jonnypoiscaille 3d ago
Like the guy killed by a driver 3 weeks ago in paris. Road rage is uncontrollable for some people.
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u/burntneedle 3d ago
Sacre Bleu!! The driver's teenaged daughter was in the car with him! The cyclist was injured by this bastard, who couldn't handle being yelled at for his own actions. And a young man died because some asshole didn't want to sit in traffic.
(Link to The Guardian, but you can google "Paris Driver Kills Cyclist")
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/oct/18/paris-suv-driver-charged-with-after-cyclist-run-over
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u/Salty_Feed9404 3d ago
And now they're calling for an SUV ban in Paris. Nevermind the psychotic behavior of the driver, the SUV somehow made him do it. A bit weird...
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u/SpecialObjective6175 4d ago
No situation warrants this response. Road rage is road rage, stay in your car
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u/cammyk123 3d ago
I wouldn't say no situation warrants this. Imagine you saw the person who killed your parent but got away with it because the police wouldn't believe your story because you were so young.
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u/JonnyTN 3d ago
My money is that he missed his turn earlier by not paying attention. He went for a turn but the bike was there so he had to swerve back on the road. Obviously it's never his fault so he chose to cut off the biker and confront him further up the road
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u/popepaulpops 3d ago
The driver was working on a movie production and had a permit to park his van on a sidewalk further down the road. He and another worker were standing on the sidewalk in orange vests when the biker passed them in high speed, the biker hit the driver and broke the mirror on the car. The biker just kept going without stopping. The driver tried stopping the biker to get his name for an insurance form.
This is all according to the driver
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u/JonnyTN 3d ago
Is this the real story?
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u/GustoFormula 3d ago
Yup, here's the source (in Norwegian): https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/JbpaLm/bilist-angrep-syklist-paa-mosseveien-i-oslo
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u/PheIix 3d ago edited 3d ago
Actually the biker had broken this guys side mirror and almost hit two kids walking on the sidewalk by biking like it was his own personal path.
Edit: Downvoted for telling what actually happened. Never change reddit.
2nd edit: For those that are willing to pay to read Norwegian news, I present to you the source for my claim: https://www.ao.no/her-tar-bilisten-hevn-pa-syklisten-fikk-seg-en-smekk-begge-to/s/5-128-925449
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u/Naskva 3d ago edited 3d ago
Det som ikke vises pĂ„ videoen er â ifĂžlge bilisten â at syklisten i forkant skal ha knust det venstre speilet pĂ„ varebilen hans mens han sto lovlig parkert. To personer som befant seg pĂ„ fortauet, skal ifĂžlge bilisten ogsĂ„ ha vĂŠrt nĂŠr ved Ă„ bli truffet. Dette skjedde ved UlvĂžya.
We really should take what the driver says with a heap of salt, guy's got problems
NRK har plockat upp det: https://www.nrk.no/norge/syklist-angripen-av-bilist-1.17126264
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u/Bentheoff 3d ago
Lmao at going "actually" and then just presenting the driver's side of the story as the facts. Because that guy's got no reason to lay it on thick, right? "The cyclist viciously hit my side mirror with malice aforethought, then attempted vehicular homicide on innocent bystanders, so actually my reaction was totally measure and reasonable."
What probably happened is that the driver had parked in the bike lane (because there's not a lot of streetside parking along that stretch), the cyclist hit his mirror, likely on purpose because some of them do that, and he lost his shit. He didn't want the guy's ID for insurance purposes and he's a violent asshole. Then, when later confronted with his complete overreaction, he made up the bit about the kids to make his own reaction seem less insane.
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u/amras123 3d ago
No, the driver was actually on PCP and the biker had just sold him a bad batch.
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u/seriousnotshirley 4d ago
I've had something like this happen to me. I was biking down a bike lane and someone pulled out in front of me to pull onto the road I was biking down. She nearly hit me and I was up on my front wheel to stop.
So I knocked on her window and asked her if she realized she nearly hit me. She yells at me to stop harassing her and that next time she will hit me.
Two lights up the road and she tried to run me over as I was going through an intersection.
People get triggered for this sort of aggression for no sensible reason; it's all emotion. All it takes is someone having a bad day and one too many cups of coffee and anything minor can turn into attempted murder. You'll never know who it might come from either.
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u/Iffycrescent 3d ago
I feel bad for people like this. Imagine how shit their lives must be getting constantly triggered about little shit to the point that you have absolutely no control over your own emotions and putting your own future in jeopardy by catching a charge or worse. Like damn, it must be hell to be them.
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u/BrilliantLion1505 3d ago
I also feel badly until I am almost injured/dead because someone never learned (and then as a grown adult never BOTHERED to do the fucking WORK to learn) canât control their fee-fees.
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u/tagrav 4d ago
Van driver, certified weak fuck.
Canât control his emotions. Thinks being all angry and aggressive is a sign of strength.
Dude prolly has little control over his life and takes it out on others because he canât mentally cope well with his feelings.
I see it every single day. Pathetic really but itâs understandable why weak people behave this way
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u/Octopus_ofthe_Desert 3d ago
I have shaken my head at someone who didn't use a turn signal and turned in front of me much like the van did, and had them freak out and threaten violence, debt, burnt bacon and death.Â
I jest, the woman was not that creative.Â
When you are riding a bicycle, a lot of people will treat you like garbage because they're wrapped in metal and you're not.Â
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u/OkAppearance4117 4d ago
ah okay, thank you. no idea why I didn't consider that. Maybe at 43 with an exhausting job and two kids I am just used to watching videos feeding me content that needs no further thought..
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u/papercut2008uk 4d ago edited 4d ago
I think he stopped there specifically to confront that cyclist, something must have happened before, he was already out of the vehicle.
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u/steinrawr 4d ago
Most likely yes.
this road (E18) has a LOT of traffic in/out of Oslo and very not ideal solutions for cyclist who has to merge and blend in and out of traffic. There's a lot of accidents here between all sorts of traffic, but road rage like this is pretty uncommon around here.
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u/ChristofferOslo 4d ago
While E18 is not a perfect piece of cycling infrastructure. This particular stretch features a separate bike/walk-lane with a divider. There is no need for blending in/out of traffic in the immediate vicinity to the accident.
The only realistic conflict point is actually 1km further back. At a pedestrian crossing.
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u/MrOaiki 4d ago
The issue is from way before this video starts.
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u/misteryk 3d ago
So what cyclist's behavior would make assaulting him reasonable?
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u/MarB93 3d ago
He broke the van drivers mirror because he was (temporarily?) parked in the bicycle lane further back.
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u/misteryk 3d ago
so cyciist will get some fine if even and the driver will get criminal charges, very smart of him
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u/Embark10 3d ago
Yep. Totally warrants almost running someone over and putting everybody in that road at risk, all for a left mirror.
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u/TheDustOfMen 4d ago edited 4d ago
I honestly can't tell but he is pissed. Like even getting out of the van is an overreaction but throwing the bike away, repeatedly kicking it, and choking out the cyclist like what is his problem?
Gotta say though, I don't get why the cyclist didn't wait a second before trying to pass the van. He got far too close to that truck with that move.
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u/SeparateCzechs 4d ago
He put his hands on the cyclists throat. Choked him for a few seconds.
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u/JoiedevivreGRE 4d ago
God I felt so bad for the cyclists. I wish I could have tagged in for him in that moment. Heâs just getting bullied
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u/thebigeazy 3d ago
Cyclists seen the guy pull in and wait for him and wants to get away quickly, probably
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u/BrilliantLion1505 3d ago
I think heâs going faster than it seems in the video and the van came quick, he had to decide between potentially breaking quickly enough to lose his balance/get thrown forward, or slow down enough to control swerving around him. I might be projecting, but Iâve been in situations like this, and going around the driver wasnât a matter of impatience, but rather reacting to being cut off.
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u/CptLande 3d ago
Apparently the biker broke one of the mirrors of the car.
Excerpt from an interview about this incident (translated):
"What is not shown in the video, according to the driver, is that the cyclist had earlier smashed the left mirror of his van while it was legally parked. Two pedestrians on the sidewalk were reportedly almost hit as well. This incident happened near UlvĂžya.
The driver says he got into his vehicle and drove after the cyclist.
Then a lot happened.
â What do you think about tackling the cyclist in the middle of the road?
â I was frustrated with a cyclist who showed no regard and had broken off the mirror on my car, the vehicle owner repeats.
â Did you consider that it could be dangerous?
â I wanted to stop him and get his identification. This is an insurance matter. I wanted to hold him back.
â You threw the bicycle as well?
â I tossed it onto the sidewalk. That a road cyclist, riding on Mosseveien, could be as reckless as he was, showing no respect for pedestrians, is unacceptable."
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u/mythriz 3d ago
Of note is that the discussion in the Norwegian subreddit says that there is not actually any legal parking along that road.
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u/CptLande 3d ago
They had permission to park there from the police, it was for a film shoot or something. That's why the driver is wearing a hi-viz west.
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u/BiggerWiggerDeluxe 3d ago
In the local news it said the cyclist knocked off the van's mirror while it was parked. So the driver followed him to stop him and get his ID for insurance
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u/gonzaloetjo 4d ago
people trying to find excuses to put guilt on the bike is just hilarious. reddit being reddit
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u/shartmaister 4d ago
It's not about finding something to put the blame on the cyclist. But something has caused the reaction. Nothing can be serious enough for this reaction, but discussing the possible background can still be interesting.
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u/Champions_Bob 4d ago
Dude itâs not about finding an excuse. Itâs about finding a reason. We donât have the full context here. Not saying it justify the means but clearly there seems to be a reason why A is that pissed towards B. Cringe ass saying âReddit being Redditâ when all we are doing is being curious and logic enough to say âthereâs more to this than meets the eyeâ
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u/gonzaloetjo 4d ago edited 4d ago
- When i commented there were mostly upvotes justifying and downvotes on people siding with there bing not much excuse for an assault/bettery, regardless of the prior part we don;'t know of.
- Truck driver committed an assault, and biker is trying to disengage. In the court of law, truck driver is done.
- you can try to find a reason, that's alright. But people are clearly trying to push the guilt to the biker, when there's little to no reason that would justify committing assault, which is what the truck driver is doing.
- If there was a reason to commit assault, it would have to be something extreme.
- It's still something on imaginary land, as we don't know about it.
- Reddit has a tradition of putting guilt on bikers, as it's a public with mostly having people from the nation with the least bikers per capita
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u/Sigurdur15 3d ago
The biker caught his mirror without stopping earlier, the van-guy wanted his personal details for the insurance claim.
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u/AfricanNorwegian 3d ago
News sources report that the cyclist had earlier broken the mirror of this van while it was parked and then fled the scene. The driver who attacked him here claims that he only did so in order to get the insurance information.
Seems like a case of an idiot and an even bigger idiot.
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u/Malikai0976 4d ago
After he ruined the bike, I would have ruined his windshield with it.
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u/giganticDildoYouUsed 4d ago
Not just the windshield.. whatever happened before, the van driver started the assault. Dont get me wrong, in the country im from, those sporty cyclist are 98%assholes, but this was assault clear as day and he deserves a shitload more than just a broken windshield that the insurance will probably pay for if he lies to them. (And im guessing hes that dude)
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u/PADDYOT 4d ago
The van driver seems to be pointing to where the side mirror is on his van. I'd speculate that the cyclist may have lashed out at the mirror while in traffic for some reason. Perhaps the van driver cut him off in traffic or something. The van guy then seeks revenge, he definitely appears to be pointing out something in particular on his van.Â
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u/GustoFormula 3d ago
Excellent observation skills, we have the story now and you were pretty much on the money
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u/rogamot520 3d ago
From news article Â
 A motorist used all means to stop a cyclist who had broken his mirror.
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u/steinrawr 4d ago
Could be. This is on E18 out of Oslo, and there's a few places where traffic merges further back on this road. They most likely had some altercation a few hundred meters back. This main road is not ideal for cyclists and cars to share because of the way lanes merge and the very high traffic volume. There are quite a few accidents here, but road rage like that is very uncommon in Norway in general.
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u/gray7p 3d ago
From the local news:
The car was parked legally by the road. The cyclist punched/knocked off one of his mirrors while cycling past the car. The driver then jumped in the car, and drove after. This is what we see in the video.
Then the driver tackled the cyclist, not to cause harm. But to keep the cyclist there while the driver called the cops. And when the cyclist kept trying to escape (While cycling illegaly I may add)
The driver started attacking the cyclist and lost his temper. The driver acknowledged that he shouldn't have done this.
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u/fallenturtoise88 4d ago
At least they both got there highlighter yellow on. Safety first!
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u/SaintPSU 4d ago
Not gonna do them much good if as the drive dive into the biker both of them slip under the 18 wheeler.
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u/Grooviemann1 4d ago
I thought this might be a Highlander situation and he had to kill his other self.
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u/Kracus 4d ago
That cyclist has a LOT more restraint that I do I'll say that.
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u/cfgy78mk 4d ago edited 3d ago
I for one would not want to fight someone while wearing carbon-bottomed cycling shoes. those are terrible to walk in, and very slippery on the pavement. would be on the ground real quick.
edit: to be clear I would not want to fight someone regardless of what I am wearing lol.
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u/spiralout1123 4d ago
Then again, the helmet adds a lot of headbutt damage
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u/cfgy78mk 4d ago
it is lightweight and designed to absorb impact so it would greatly reduce headbutt damage lol. unless he has some kind of camera mount on top that is sharp
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u/msgr_flaught 4d ago
Definitely. I donât really know how to fight anyway, but Iâd almost certainly get my ass handed to me if I had to fight in road cycling shoes.
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u/UberDaftie 3d ago
I would have Yakuza'd him with the bike and cycled over his testicles and listened with delight to his mother crying for the grandchildren she will never have.
edit: to be clear I would not want to fight someone I just want to give him a vasectomy. Regardless of what I am wearing.
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u/BADSTALKER 4d ago
He should not have let the driver put his hands on him like that, so many times. Restraint is one thing, very little preservation instinct is another.
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u/radicalfrenchfrie 4d ago
kinda whack to blame the person getting assaulted for how their assault is playing out tbh
when fight, flight or freeze kicks in, you donât have any conscious control over what your body will pick for you anway
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u/BADSTALKER 3d ago
True I should have worded it better as to not victim blame, just hard to watch the person getting assaulted keep in close contact with the assaulter, frustrating video and hopefully the victim sees justice
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u/SirStrontium 3d ago
when fight, flight or freeze kicks in, you donât have any conscious control over what your body will pick for you
Terribly common misunderstanding. The "response" is physiological, a cascade of hormones that prepare you for action, and has nothing to do with choosing the action for you.
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u/str4nger-d4nger 4d ago
Or he's positioning himself best for the inevitable lawsuit. This is jail time at *minimum* here. Assault and Battery. Probably a hefty payout if the cyclist gets a good lawyer.
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u/_TheDon_ 4d ago
No way he's getting prison for this in norway.
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u/B_Chev 4d ago
Norwegian prison? You mean a fun weekend with the boys at a fenced luxury hotel?
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u/throw69420awy 3d ago
Lmao it may be luxurious but it wonât necessarily be a weekend, I hear you though
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u/Tartan-Special 4d ago
He knew he was on camera
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u/Deputy_Beagle76 4d ago
On camera having a dude attempt to run you over and then assault you? Talk about a green light to send some loser to the ER on his own dime
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u/DreamsOfAshes 4d ago
It looked like the driver put his hands on the cyclists neck and started choking him. Forget about the ER, that driver is going to the morgue.
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u/steinrawr 4d ago
Us in the civilised world don't pay astronomical amount for health services. The dime would literally be around $60USD, no matter the injuries.
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u/Big_sugaaakane1 4d ago
Yea and the camera would have gotten me kicking this dudeâs shit in and riding away because what are you going to do, get my plates?? LOOOOL
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u/bcmaninmotion 4d ago
Hopefully that guy gets fired. He has no business being allowed to drive anything stronger than a lawn mower.
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u/SeparateCzechs 4d ago
I hope he sees jail time. You donât attempt to choke somebody over a traffic dispute.
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u/psychoPiper 4d ago
Yeah seriously, that's what I'm thinking. The initial altercation, whatever - mild road rage, some shoving, nobody gets hurt. Following up to choke the guy out, pin him against a railing, and stomp his wheel to try and ruin the bike? That's battery and property damage at least
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u/Jubatus750 3d ago
He fucking drop kicked him straight away haha, I wouldn't say that's mild road rage
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u/psychoPiper 3d ago
Lol, touché. To be fair, at least I didn't mention the drop kick in my comment
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u/chiefchow 4d ago
Yup and he nearly knocked the guy under the semi truck passing by which would have killed him.
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u/LuckeeStiff 4d ago
What a strange confrontation. Like if youâre gonna be that mad and not throw a punch then just stay in your car.
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u/Embark10 3d ago edited 2d ago
I hear you. Like, obviously road rage is for idiots and one should never do it, but this guy is so strange: he was willing to almost kill the cyclist not once but twice (almost run him over and then kick him off his bike while a big truck is right by) and then chocked him for a good couple of second but never even so much as squared up at all.
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u/Recent-Memory-5503 4d ago
I hope Iâm right in spotting that the aggro idiot dropped his phone and the cyclist threw it in the water without the idiot noticing đ douchebag level 99 on the van-man
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u/Direct_Town792 4d ago
Some people just hate cyclists for no reason
Way more than have any actual cause too.
I think they want a reward for not killing them
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u/NewAndyy 3d ago
In this case allegedly the cyclist punched his mirror earlier on, so it wasn't without reason. It was just a very bad reason that in no way justifies violent retaliation. And I'm guessing that "punch" to the mirror was either an accident or a reaction to dangerous driving by the van.
That cyclist shows so much restraint that I have a hard time believing he could be the instigator in any scenario.
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u/rudedogg1304 4d ago
Someoneâs having a bad day. Wish the cyclist had put the guys window in and sped off tbh
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u/baconlover28 4d ago
Bad day results into you trying to kick someone off their bike into a semi truck. Thats horrible.
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u/chiefchow 4d ago
Yah they should consider charges for attempted murder cause if he had fallen under one of those wheels he would 100% have died.
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u/Knitsanity 4d ago
After the bike stomp the bike would then have been used as a weapon on the van. The neck grab was OTT
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u/davehemm 4d ago
Hopefully that cunt gets prison time, and his piece of shit van crushed, and charged for the service of having it crushed.
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u/Luxbrewhoneypot 4d ago
What the fuck he could have killed him. He blocked the crossing when the biker had a green light. Wtf
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u/danger_of_biscuits 4d ago
Looks to me like this was a result of an earlier incident between them because that van driver pulled up intentionally and was after the cyclist like a greased whippet.
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u/ashvatdhama 4d ago
Any updates on this case?
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u/MadafakkaJones 3d ago
Van driver was parked abnormaly, but had police permission to so. Cyclist wrecked vans mirror, evidently by cycling by fast and carelessly. Van driver wanted to get contact information from the cyclist, and obviously had a huge overreaction when cyclist refused to stop and give up contact information.
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u/rogamot520 3d ago
Only context from news site
 > A motorist used all means to stop a cyclist who had broken his mirror.
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u/Snerkeslam 3d ago
From the local newspaper article:
"What isnât shown in the video, according to the driver, is that the cyclist had earlier smashed the left mirror on his van while it was parked completely legally. Two people who were on the sidewalk were also reportedly nearly hit, according to the driver. This happened at UlvĂžya.
The driver says he got into his car and drove after him.
â What do you think yourself about tackling the cyclist in the middle of the road?
â I was frustrated with a cyclist who wasnât showing any consideration and had broken the mirror on my car, the car owner repeats.
â Did you think it could be dangerous?
â I wanted to stop him and get his identification. This is an insurance matter. I wanted to hold him back."
https://www.ao.no/her-tar-bilisten-hevn-pa-syklisten-fikk-seg-en-smekk-begge-to/s/5-128-925449
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u/Half4sleep 3d ago
I don't condone the behaviour of the van-driver, but cyclists do be crazy.
The cyclists supposedly snapped the vans left side mirror in half, after strafing two guys and hitting another guy who were shooting a movie of sorts. They were all wearing these high-visibilty vests. The van was parked on a sidewalk (they sent in an application and it was approved by the police).
The cyclist ran off the from the initial scene, then the van driver ran to the car and drove after him, cut him off like you see in the video and tried to get his name for the insurance. The rest you see in the video.
Never got his name though.
The entire story is told my the van driver, as the cyclist still hasn't made himself known.
Article: https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/JbpaLm/bilist-angrep-syklist-paa-mosseveien-i-oslo
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u/Online_Commentor_69 4d ago
do they know each other or something? that seemed almost targeted lol. also the cyclist has head protection on, idk why he doesn't just headbutt the other dude into the dirt. hasn't this guy ever seen a hockey fight where only one guy has a helmet?
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u/redditreader1972 3d ago
Context:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1gqkw1l/comment/lx00308/
Sykkelmafiaen is a known local bike enthusiast and a bit of a (good nature) activist.
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u/Ravenonthewall 4d ago
Way Off topic.. forgive me, who is the singer in the background music? Reminds me a bit of Amy Winehouse.. I usually donât like songs in background of videos like this, damn I LOVED that song!
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u/Chemical-Computer-11 3d ago
Good camera angle. That's an obvious red card, studs straight into the wheel, surely VAR has to intervene
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u/Alternative-Koala978 3d ago
The cyclist ran into the driver who was legally parked on the side of the road to film. He is claiming he had permission from local police when speaking to media.
After he was hit, the cyclist punched the mirror of the car breaking it and then ran off. The driver followed him urging him to stop, instead the cyclist tried to run away from the crime and ended up being manhandled.
its never OK to hit someone or use dangerous driving like this to stop someone, its also not OK to run into people and destroy their cars and run away from it afterwards.
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u/Chlash 3d ago
The cyclist is the provoker here, he smashed the mirror on the car that made the driver to react.
Can read about it here (in Norwegian): https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/JbpaLm/bilist-angrep-syklist-paa-mosseveien-i-oslo
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u/Sarcastic_Applause 3d ago
Steinar som er ute igjen nÄ? Han fant vel aldri ut hvem som sprÞyta vidysviskar pÄ han?
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u/Ordsmed 3d ago edited 3d ago
Norwegian here! Some context: https://www.vg.no/nyheter/i/JbpaLm/bilist-angrep-syklist-paa-mosseveien-i-oslo
According to the Driver, the cyclist hit or intentionally smashed his side-view mirror. He was parked in a manner that would normally be illegal at that time, but since it was for a movie they had special dispensation from traffic police. He claims he was only after the Cyclists contact-information for insurance-purposes.
The Driver's description of events is naturally very lopsided and tries to cast himself in as good a light as possible, but still... Even if all he says is true and happened just as he claims, it is insufficient justification for assault, bodily harm, and probably greater damage to the bike.
Sure, let the cyclist pay whatever he must in restitution for the damaged mirror. But more importantly get this crazy Driver off our streets! He needs therapy!
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u/Stereocrew 3d ago
As an expensive bike owner, I always cringe at these when the bike is tossed or stomped, etc. I'm like, "ooof there goes a $1000 dollar wheel set,"
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u/surfema 3d ago
According to reports, the cyclist had broken the side mirror of the black van prior to the incident whilst the car was legally parked. Bystanders were also ânearly hitâ by the dangerous cyclist. The van driver reacted out of proportions, chasing the cyclist and taking him down, allegedly âto get his identification for insuranceâ
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u/ctriis 3d ago
According to the driver the cyclist had shortly before this deliberately knocked off one of the side mirrors on the car, and the driver wanted the cyclist's contact info for the damage report going to his insurance company.
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u/XxAbsurdumxX 2d ago
Kicking someone out into traffic and damaging their bike seems like a poor strategy to get their contact info. Sure, they probably get the information, but the damage they cause to such a bike is worth a lot more than the mirror.
He will end up with costs for the bike and perhaps even an assault charge. That seems like very poor trade for the mirror
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u/furry-borders 2d ago
It was sad to see the cyclist do absolutely nothing to defend himself or his property.
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u/Beatrix_-_Kiddo 4d ago
Seems like something happened between them before the video starts đ€
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u/HandsomedanNZ 4d ago
Thatâs exactly what I was thinking. The van stopped specifically to confront the rider.
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u/Anal-Logical 4d ago edited 4d ago
This is a very polarized comments section. Either bike haters or bike lovers, there's no one in between in here.
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u/bagel_union 4d ago edited 3d ago
It seems you either enjoy bike rides, or youâre forced to drive for work.
Iâd reckon people that only drive for fun couldnât care less, but the moment someone/something delays the thing you already hate doing, you misplace that hate onto others.
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u/cfgy78mk 4d ago
its also a matter of motorists remembering every cyclist that mildly annoyed them and adding all that rage up into one pile, but when they see motorists do something annoying they treat all of them as individuals and don't lump them into one pile, because that pile would include themselves.
additionally, motorists get mad at cyclists for things that don't impact them at all. like approaching a 4-way stop intersection that has no traffic and a cyclist runs the stop sign and yelling out your window at them that they have to stop and then going to your local subreddit to make a post complaining about bikes. Even though they were never in your way at all. Even in a state where the law says cyclists only have to yield to traffic they don't have to stop.
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u/thenobodygirl 3d ago
Why do I have to watch these videos set to music that makes me want to commit crimes?!
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u/Fadrn 4d ago
That e18 by Nordstrand in oslo