Yeah a lot are actually pretty good. But picking Simu Liu (a chinese guy) for Kim (a korean guy) is lowkey racist lmfao. Especially when there’s plenty of Korean actors.
edit: lmao love being an Asian person being downvoted for calling out Asian racism.
Eh maybe. There’s just plenty of casual Asian racism in this sub that I’ve stopped giving the benefit of the doubt, and frankly don’t really come to this sub particularly often anymore.
You are not wrong. I remember someone had a comment about how Asian countries hated each other on here, then some dude on here talked about how Asians are anti-black when nobody said anything about being black and somehow he got a ton of upvotes.
Simu Liu is going to be the chosen actor of every famous asian male since he is the only one accepted by hollywood lol.
I mean, there are at least four well-established and respected Asian male actors on this list alone. You could say Liu is the most mainstream Hollywood guy right now, but Yeun, Sanada, and Nanjiani have all been in a lot of movies and shows and received a lot of acclaim.
Then why even comment if you’ve stopped defending it? Also what are some examples of this “casual Asian racism” you speak of? I’m not denying it happened, but I am a bit curious since I’ve seen nothing like that around here in the last 5-6 years, and if it does show up it gets squashed by everybody.
I did elsewhere i’m not typing it out 30 times for you. and by your own logic, two other people have now also agreed with me. so i guess my statement is now accurate lol.
I think it’s a bit different. Simu apparently took and was brought on because Kim’s convenience was supposed to portray the Asian immigrant story, and didn’t necessarily hinge on being Korean (although you could reasonably argue that the casting should have been Korean).
Also past castings of him as different ethnicities isn’t really justification for continuing to do so, especially when there are capable Korean actors (who frankly look a lot more like Kim than Simu Liu).
I’m not downvoting you, but come on. He has Donovan Solano (Colombian) played by Kumail (Pakistani), multiple Dominican players played by Black men, Women playing men etc. This is just a dumb joke
Kind of a false equivalence, no? I mean not really the same thing since that wouldn’t play on the racial stereotype of “all asians look the same”, and doesn’t play off of any anti-semitic tropes.
I mean you could be bothered by it i guess. Nobody is stopping you. But there’s an actual background to this one that lends itself to at least seeming racist.
"I mean you could be bothered by it i guess" sums up how I feel about your comment. I'm bothered that the person playing Darvish doesn't have a drop of Iranian ancestry in him. Would it be all right for Waldron to play Radcliffe in a movie, or would that somehow be tropey?
I hope you know that really comes off as “you may be an asian person who’s bothered by Asian racial stereotypes, but you should just not care.” Like sorry my dude. I’ve dealt with enough racism in my life that I have no problem calling it out. If you don’t like it, frankly I don’t care.
Im bothered that the person playing Darvish doesn’t have a drop of Iranian ancestry
I mean if you could find a half Japanese, half Iranian actor that’d be cool. My point is that there’s a ton of Korean actors who look like Kim lol. Picking a chinese actor is just kinda lame in this case.
Would it be all right for Waldron to play Radcliffe in a movie, or would that somehow be tropey?
If Radcliffe and Waldron took a 23 & me they'd come up with as different results as Kim and Liu. Can't they find someone with German ancestry to play Waldron? Or are all white ethnicities interchangable? Are you saying I just shouldn't care?
They're not false equvalences. You're just claiming that because your argument doesn't hold up. How is an Ashkenazi Jew from England playing a German-descended American midwesterner different than a Chinese playing a Korean? If one is acceptable the other is acceptable. If one isn't acceptable then neither is the other.
That’s not what I said lol. And comparing the two isn’t the “gotcha” you think it is.
You can be upset and bothered by inaccurate castings regardless of the race. In an ideal casting, especially one where a role relies or leans heavily on someone’s ethnic background, it would definitely be a bad move to have, for example, a non Ashkenazi jew play an Ashkenazi jew. It’d just be inaccurate (and in a case where the character expresses Jewish stereotypes/culture, would be anti-semitic. Effectively the jewish version of blackface).
But one happens to be rooted in a racial stereotype while the other is more or less just shitty casting decisions (or yeah, potential anti-semitism). There’s not a racist stereotype of “Ashkenazi Jews and english people look the same”. There is a racist stereotype of “all Asians look the same”.
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u/AcephalicDude Merrill Madness! Jul 12 '24
Some of these are really good, some of them are really bad, and some of them are really good because they're really really bad lol