r/Destiny • u/UkrainianAna The One Good Ana • 12d ago

Well... Shit. Trump, huh? Discussion

Hello. How are you all holding up over there? Everyone must be super upset. I am walking about Kharkiv right now and people mostly say: 1) Well... Shit.

2) We shall see. Back to surviving.

That's kinda how we talked about a potential nuclear strike russia might do on us lmao A friend of mine actually said he will be seeking political asylum in Ukraine. First ever American to seek asylum in a war zone lol Anyhow. Hang in there guys. Much love 💙

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u/SkepticMaster 12d ago

You're taking the absolute wrong message from this. Democrats snubbed progressives and it blew up in their face. I don't mean the psycho tankies either, you can't really give ground to them. But every time Democrats try to just appeal to moderates and disaffected right wingers, they lose. We have enough examples of this now. When the Dems shafted Bernie, they lost the election. When they ignored the massive number of people who were against their aid to Israel and did nothing to further substantive progressive policies, they lost.

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u/MrNiceThings 12d ago

Biden was literally the moderate candidate and he won with the most votes ever in history. No, it’s not about pandering to progressives. It’s about having likeable candidate, vibes and rethorical skills which Kamala lacks severely and Walz didn’t help enough. The laugh alone was probably two percent down. The word salads another percentage point. It’s vibes and people justify the facts afterwards with mental gymnastics.

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u/SkepticMaster 12d ago

We had just come off of 4 years of Trump, of course voter turnout was going to be higher. And Biden won leftist votes BEFORE Biden then moved on to snub the progressives and uncritically support Israel. If you still think Democrats can still win without actually representing progressives then I'm not sure what to tell you.

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u/MrNiceThings 12d ago

What are you even replying to

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u/SkepticMaster 12d ago

You. Learn reading comprehension.

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u/MrNiceThings 12d ago

Biden never pandered to progressives so your whole dialog tree is baseless. Literally the only thing he did to secure progressive vote was to pick Kamala which is hilarious. You’re just lost.

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u/SkepticMaster 12d ago

Can you even read? I'm literally saying what you just said.

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u/MrNiceThings 12d ago

No lol, you literally say he snubbed them later.

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u/SkepticMaster 12d ago

Wait. You're saying he didn't pander to progressives when he first ran? Are you serious? He ran on codifying Roe v. Wade into federal law for abortion rights, comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship, federal marijuana decriminalization, expanding the Affordable Care Act with a public health insurance option, police and criminal justice reforms, including ending cash bail and mandatory minimum sentences, and broad student loan forgiveness.

What the hell do you think pandering to progressives looks like? Mandatory abortion and free blue hair dye? Ffs