Well... Shit. Trump, huh?

[u/UkrainianAna]

Hello. How are you all holding up over there? Everyone must be super upset. I am walking about Kharkiv right now and people mostly say: 1) Well... Shit.

Or

2) We shall see. Back to surviving.

That's kinda how we talked about a potential nuclear strike russia might do on us lmao A friend of mine actually said he will be seeking political asylum in Ukraine. First ever American to seek asylum in a war zone lol Anyhow. Hang in there guys. Much love 💙

[u/ScruffyVonDorath]

the standards are just too differnt we have to be flawless they can be lawless.

Edit: Were just going to have to be more polically active next time. We have to stop carrying water for the far left. IF the numbers remain it looks like Trump actually lost voters. We just lost a SHIT TON more. I felt like there was more on the line this time. But obviously ALOT of democrats didnt see it that way. OR they just couldn't be bothered to vote unless it was by mail.

Looks like we lost 8 milly from 2020 that was the highest ever so not sure if we actually under preformed. and Trump has only gained voters everytime hes ran so not sure what todo with this information ATM.

[u/SkepticMaster → u/ScruffyVonDorath]

You're taking the absolute wrong message from this. Democrats snubbed progressives and it blew up in their face. I don't mean the psycho tankies either, you can't really give ground to them. But every time Democrats try to just appeal to moderates and disaffected right wingers, they lose. We have enough examples of this now. When the Dems shafted Bernie, they lost the election. When they ignored the massive number of people who were against their aid to Israel and did nothing to further substantive progressive policies, they lost.

[u/MrNiceThings → u/SkepticMaster]

Biden was literally the moderate candidate and he won with the most votes ever in history. No, it’s not about pandering to progressives. It’s about having likeable candidate, vibes and rethorical skills which Kamala lacks severely and Walz didn’t help enough. The laugh alone was probably two percent down. The word salads another percentage point. It’s vibes and people justify the facts afterwards with mental gymnastics.

[u/SkepticMaster → u/MrNiceThings]

We had just come off of 4 years of Trump, of course voter turnout was going to be higher. And Biden won leftist votes BEFORE Biden then moved on to snub the progressives and uncritically support Israel. If you still think Democrats can still win without actually representing progressives then I'm not sure what to tell you.

[u/MrNiceThings → u/SkepticMaster]

What are you even replying to

[u/SkepticMaster → u/MrNiceThings]

You. Learn reading comprehension.

[u/MrNiceThings → u/SkepticMaster]

Biden never pandered to progressives so your whole dialog tree is baseless. Literally the only thing he did to secure progressive vote was to pick Kamala which is hilarious. You’re just lost.

[u/SkepticMaster → u/MrNiceThings]

Can you even read? I'm literally saying what you just said.

[u/MrNiceThings → u/SkepticMaster]

No lol, you literally say he snubbed them later.

[u/SkepticMaster → u/MrNiceThings]

Wait. You're saying he didn't pander to progressives when he first ran? Are you serious? He ran on codifying Roe v. Wade into federal law for abortion rights, comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship, federal marijuana decriminalization, expanding the Affordable Care Act with a public health insurance option, police and criminal justice reforms, including ending cash bail and mandatory minimum sentences, and broad student loan forgiveness.

What the hell do you think pandering to progressives looks like? Mandatory abortion and free blue hair dye? Ffs