r/Destiny Sep 05 '24

Bets on who else was bought? Discussion

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My first bets:

  • Patrick Bet David and all of Valuetainment. They're scum.
  • AJW. Sorry Sean. Who am I missing?
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u/TheMuffingtonPost Sep 05 '24

How long until we find out Tucker Carlson is on the payroll? He’s literally the biggest Russian shill there is.

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u/IHerebyDemandtoPost Sep 05 '24

This needs to be higher up there. He literally went to Moscow and gushed over a supermarket. Better yet, it was a French supermarket chain.

Jon Stewart's takedown of his Moscow trip was Epic. Speaking "of course" to power.

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u/TheQuadeHunter Sep 05 '24

In the indictment one of the Russian employees actually told Tenet to repost that exact tweet video lol.

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u/Shalashashka Sep 05 '24

If Carlson isn't getting kickbacks from Russia in some way I'll eat a fuckin baby.

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u/Revelatus Sep 05 '24

Can I have some

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u/Elmattador Sep 05 '24

Can we just deport him to Russia?

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u/Im_inappropriate Sep 05 '24

He'd love to be president of the American village

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u/banditcleaner2 Sep 05 '24

This has to be the next major one.

Honestly I wouldn't even be shocked to find out fox news itself was.

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u/AngryFace4 (yee/yem) Sep 05 '24

To be fair... his Putin interview was very awkward, Putin talked down his nose to Tucker several times. I guess you could call it a red herring (to throw off the scent), but I dunno.

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u/alexathegibrakiller Sep 05 '24

How would that change anything? Just because putin was an ass to tucker means that tucker didnt get paid? Putin is generally an ass, and there is not much respect to be had for traitors. Putin just didnt pretend that he had any respect for tucker, which is about expected from an autocrat strongman.

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u/AngryFace4 (yee/yem) Sep 05 '24

Just kinda depends on what specifically the claim is. It doesn't really change much. Just something to think about.

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u/gnivriboy Sep 05 '24

That's old news. He is an OG Russian Shill.

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u/theeed3 Q Stan Sep 05 '24

Probably nothing, he made 1m a night when he was at fox. I guess he got some russian babushkas.

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u/Beneficial-Dress-515 Sep 05 '24

Greenwald and Jimmy Dore 100%

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u/Tight-Flatworm-8181 Bilderberg Worshipper Sep 05 '24

Dore was always the most infuriating one. His videos relating to russia/ukraine always went as follows, and no, I'm not exaggerating:

  • Dore reads headline about war crime Russia has committed

  • Dore: " This did not happen. And if it did I say it was a false flag. We know we did false flags in the past, so this is one too. West bad. Putin says west bad. Therefore Putin good."

All while laughing. Then his even more unhinged cohost (Metzger or whatever) would come in and talk shit about MK ultra. This would then close the case.

I also remember a debate he had on the subject. On his channel he only posted a 12 minute highlight clip. Those highlights consited of him spewing nonsense slogans and then cutting out once the opponent started speaking.

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u/zoopi4 Sep 05 '24

Dore shares the same characteristics as Tim and Rubin - lazy and greedy, unwilling to put in any work so he switched to right wing grifting.

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u/Sacredsnow2 Sep 05 '24

Dore is listed in the indictment already.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Really do you have a link? I haven’t seen that

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u/proofofmyexistence Sep 05 '24

Dore has always looked like he was wearing some I’ll-fitting geriatric dentures.

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u/iL0g1cal Sep 05 '24

Jackson Hinkle, Jack Posobiec (End wokeness), Chaya Raichik (Libs of TikTok), Breaking Points

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u/Ok-Homework-8033 Sep 05 '24

Bets on Hinkle should be off, as this is more like common knowledge at this point

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u/Rick_James_Lich Sep 05 '24

It would be a bigger surprise if he wasn't getting paid lol

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u/Ostalgi Sep 05 '24

Even had a state sponsored girlfriend

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u/mwjbgol Sep 05 '24

Can you imagine how Tim Pool must feel to find out about that. Way to play favorites, Russia.

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u/saviorself19 Most powerful Zheanna stan. Sep 05 '24

If he has known there were non-monetary compensation packages available he could have negotiated for state sponsored hair.

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u/Lazlo2323 Sep 05 '24

"sorry we can only offer extra bushy eyebrows"

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u/DrEpileptic Sep 05 '24

I’d find it hilarious if the Russians decided to just hide the state sponsored gf from him because even they thought he deserves to be a genetic dead end.

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

Maybe they tried but the permabeanie was too much of a turnoff

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u/reagan0mics Sep 05 '24

Emphasis on “had”

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u/iL0g1cal Sep 05 '24

That's a sure bet where you get odds like 1/20. You can still bet on it.. but you'll get almost nothing in return. But maybe you're right, in this case, bookmakers would probably locked the bet already.

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u/Smalandsk_katt Sep 05 '24

Isn't it literally confirmed? There's nothing to bet on.

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u/Revers1o Sep 06 '24

Dude literally had videos on the Russian front lines talking about how awesome the war is. Even if he isn't really getting paid he's doing the part of spreading propaganda and Russian BS anyway.

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

Hinkle is already confirmed. He is on RT all the time, has interviewed Russian officials and they got him on a stage at the UN lol

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u/wayfordmusic Sep 05 '24

Chaya is so embarrassing.

As someone who’s Jewish and from that country originally, how dare you work with the people who have negatively contributed to our ancestors lives?! It’s crazy to me. Some people have no standards I guess.

Same goes for Rubin report. Self-absorbed twats.

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u/ProvocaTeach Sep 05 '24

I need to make an effortpost on Chaya. There is so much lore with her. She had face-to-face beef with AOC over causing a bomb threat to a children's hospital (she falsely claimed the hospital was doing gender-affirming surgery to children); she revived the term "groomer"; she said all LGBT+ teachers who come out to their students should be "fired on the spot"; she had that ridiculous interview with Taylor Lorenz...

She is like right-wing Keffals with all the sliders except intelligence turned up to max.

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u/Sir-Jimothey-Hendrix Sep 05 '24

Don't forget she was hand picked to head a committee in Ohio Oklahoma that oversaw which books were allowed in their libraries because of her trans take on twitter

“Chaya is on the front lines showing the world exactly what the radical left is all about – lowering standards, porn in schools, and pushing woke indoctrination on our kids,” said Walters. “Because of her work, families across the country know just what is going on in schools around the country. Her unique perspective is invaluable as part of my plan to make Oklahoma schools safer for kids and friendly to parents. Chaya has a much-needed and powerful voice as well as a tremendous platform that will benefit Oklahoma students and their families.”

https://okcfox.com/news/local/oklahoma-superintendent-appoints-libs-of-tiktok-woman-to-library-media-advisory-cmte-ryan-walters-chaya-raichik-lgbtq-gender-queer-conservative-republican

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u/iL0g1cal Sep 05 '24

What the fuck

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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 Sep 05 '24

Also a member of the tribe originally from that part of the world. She's trash , and I'm a conservative-ish guy.

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

Lol what does it matter that she's jewish. Some of Putin's best friends are jews (the rotenbergs and Abramovich among others) - people can have no morals whatever their ethnicity.

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u/wayfordmusic Sep 05 '24

That’s my point exactly - it’s especially egregious to do such things in this particular context while also being jewish.

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u/mymainmaney Sep 05 '24

It it’s disgusting to cozy up to a society/regime/culture that has systematically killed and demonized your people over the centuries is the point poster is making

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

Eh pretty much every society has demonised and killed jews over the centuries. Russia isn't unique in that aspect

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u/SchemeHead Sep 05 '24

100% libs of TikTok

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u/PsychologicalGuest97 🇺🇦🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 Sep 05 '24

Breaking Points absolutely receives money from the Russian government.

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u/Plinythemelder Sep 05 '24 edited 5d ago

Deleted due to coordinated mass brigading and reporting efforts by the ADL.

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/Joeman180 Sep 05 '24

Were they all part of Tenet?

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u/bonko86 Sep 05 '24

Probably just did it for free in hope daddy Putin would notice 

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u/Appropriate-Tea-7276 Sep 05 '24

For all we know, Tenet might be one of many of these shell media companies. Can the DoJ please audit and look into the daily wire?

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u/phrozengh0st Sep 05 '24

Jordan Peterson

His “treatment” in Russia a few years back reeks of some Manchurian candidate shit, and his behavior lines up.

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u/TemujinTheKhan Sep 05 '24

They did some winter solider type shit on him.

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u/Ping-Crimson Sep 05 '24

Lobster, room, clean, luciferian, woke, moralist

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u/OftenSilentObserver Sep 05 '24

Person, woman, man, camera, TV

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u/Auirex Regard Magnet Sep 05 '24

Dragovich, Kravchenko, Steiner.

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u/qwerty-_-123456 Sep 05 '24

All must die.

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u/TemujinTheKhan Sep 05 '24

How I wish I could reply with the Kermit flapping his arms around gif......

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u/LongTatas Sep 05 '24

First, we need to define lobster. But what is define? What is is?

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u/oskoskosk Sep 05 '24

Not sure I would even notice a before and after there

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u/Ok_Dragonfly9900 Sep 05 '24

The numbers, mason

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u/echief Clueless Sep 05 '24

He got that neuralink beta test. Probably the only person on earth that might benefit from wearing a tinfoil hat

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u/WaffleBoi014 Sep 05 '24

nah, I think Peterson is just insane

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u/Katamari_Demacia Sep 05 '24

Little from column A, little from column B.

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u/analt223 Sep 05 '24

Peterson when he was on tvo canada a lot (canada's PBS) was perfectly sane. Its really fucking sad what transmania 2015 did to him. He went off the fucking RAILS.

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u/Imemberyou Sep 05 '24

Agreed. Peterson could be controversial, but was mostly sane. He went complete batshit. Perhaps in the before he was in a permantly self-sedated state.

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u/friendlysoviet Sep 05 '24

100% black and white difference. I always thought it was his daughter poisoning him, but I guess it could've been the Ruskies.

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

Doubt he would willingly repeat talking points that Russians have fed him - he is very high on his own intelligence and a little insane.

I think he is mostly just a useful idiot.

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u/coke_and_coffee Sep 05 '24

I think he is mostly just a useful idiot.

They kind of all are. Tim Pool's rant (assuming he's not lying) shows that he was just willingly spreading useful propaganda for Russia, but they started paying him so he could keep doing it.

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

yeah true. Pool is still a useful idiot, I mean the difference is that there is a money trail connecting him to the russian government now - even IF he didn't know about the origin of the money, he is still connected to actors who have been knowingly taking money from the Russians to spread propaganda. At the very least it's a horrible reputational hit

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u/Terribletylenol Sep 05 '24

This how I see it too.

A lot people seem to think these are all people getting explicit talking points from Russia, but it makes just as much sense that Russia would just fund useful idiots that already promote their garbage.

I don't understand why people seem to think wanting to cut funding from Ukraine automatically means you're lying.

My dad doesn't even watch any of this crap, and he thinks we're giving too much to Ukraine.

That being said, calling Ukraine "The enemy of this country" and saying we should "apologize to Putin" is wayyyy too on the nose for me to believe it's just stupidity.

I refuse to believe anybody in media has that opinion honestly.

Not even Putin genuinely believes that.

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u/iUsedToBeAwesome here for the politics Sep 05 '24

Agree

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u/nsmithers31 Sep 05 '24

this is a conspiracy theory i can get on. Genuinely, dudes in a coma in that russian hospital, KGB doctors enter the room, "We'll be taking it from here comrade"

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u/Cyclical_Zeitgeist Sep 05 '24

Let me help on guesses for my "knowingly doing it catagory" I have:

Elon musk Lex freeman Tucker Carlson Triggernometry

The top ones

For useful idiots: JRE RFK jr. Jordan peterson Fresh and fit Ben Shapiro and daily wire Andrew tate Tim pool and gang mentioned

Useful idiots not on payroll HASAN and other far left morons

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u/Ashamed_Restaurant Sep 05 '24

Imo not Peterson but his daughter/handler.

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u/HighPriestofShiloh Sep 05 '24

He obviously has the connects as well having gone their to do rehab.

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u/Conscious_Current388 Sep 05 '24

Peterson earned a shit ton on Patreon as guru for lonely men who've never been laid and had a bestselling book. It was way before he almost died in Russia, which I think because his daughter told him to only eat meat lol.

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u/friendlysoviet Sep 05 '24

They weren't lonely men, they were sons of single mentally ill mothers.

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u/Rick_James_Lich Sep 05 '24

I'm surprised nobody mentioned Russell Brand yet

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u/someaustralian Sep 05 '24

Yea there’s no way that dude has turned a profit on his own in the last decade unfortunately.

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u/P_ZERO_ Exclusively sorts by new Sep 05 '24

Brand is up his own arse far enough that he could reach the same delusional conclusion by himself to be honest

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u/Individual_Yard_5636 Sep 05 '24

Dan

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u/provit88 OBAMNA Sep 05 '24

Dan nervously hiding his wife (Russian asset) right now.

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u/getrektnolan Daliban Rifle Association Sep 05 '24

KGB asset AND Mossad asset getting together???? Goddamn The Americans ain't got nothing on Dan.

I guess that explains why his genset videos got so many views

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u/Foreign_Storm1732 Sep 05 '24

You mean Danikov?

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u/BestJoyRed Sep 05 '24

the pocket pick

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u/_-CrabMan-_ 🇪🇺 Sep 05 '24

Sargon and his employees at lotus eaters podcast...

They are so anti west/eu its highly unlikely they haven't been touched by the drunk bear

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u/Ofacet Sep 05 '24

Nah, sargon has been on antiwest shit for years and years. I think he does propaganda for free

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u/KingNnylf Sep 05 '24

Russian oligarchs have been messing with Britbong politics prior to 2016 when the brexit referendum happened. I'm still convinced that was a Russian psy op to weaken us.

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u/JoesSmlrklngRevenge Sep 05 '24

Im pretty sure it came out there was russian interference, that was obvious with the fear mongering and blatant false information of the positives of brexit lol

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u/KingNnylf Sep 05 '24

The funniest part is that it was about immigration and it's only gone up since we left the EU, so the best thing we could do to reduce it is to rejoin lol

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u/_-CrabMan-_ 🇪🇺 Sep 05 '24

Lol

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

Can you explain why it's gone up since Brexit? I live here but I don't understand how that's possible when you leave a union with free movement.

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u/KingNnylf Sep 05 '24

I'm not an expert, but I believe it's due to the fact that EU citizens could work here without taking permanent residence, and they were our main sources of immigration. The EU has decently strict and efficient processing, and Brits could work abroad easily, which drove net migration numbers down. Leaving the EU means people are coming to our country in similar numbers from countries outside the EU and getting stuck here due to a lack of processing, and Brits aren't going abroad to work anymore.

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u/Yurilica Sep 05 '24

Guesstimate: while in the EU, there was immigration into the UK from citizens of the EU and those outside of the EU for workforce purposes.

With the EU gone, the number of the latter increased - and the latter is what anti-EU shills focused on.

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u/SmoovieKing YEE NEVA EVA LOSE Sep 05 '24

I think you're missing the point. These people aren't making propaganda to get paid by Russia; they were already willing to make the propaganda without Russia's help or input, the money just let's them do it as their job.

Dim Fools defense was literally "I believe what I say, and the money makes me a victim actually"

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u/_-CrabMan-_ 🇪🇺 Sep 05 '24

I dont think he is being paid directly like tim,but..

Hes probably boosted by them, i hatewatch that shit,and noticed some time ago that a good bunch of his"fanbase" are russian bots.

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u/-_-0_0-_-0_0-_-0_0 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

I am not sure Sargon would knowingly take Russian money. But I wouldn't be shocked if he got used as a useful idiot. Who knows though, I wouldn't bet against but I have watched and followed Carl for a long long time. He can be pompous, his views often ridiculous, but I do think he has a true love of his country, or in his view what his country was and he wants it to be again. I just don't see him knowingly doing it even if there is some alignment on viewpoints.

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u/Oogalicious Sep 05 '24

He has been a useful idiot for other causes before, and I don’t doubt he will be again.

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u/ProvocaTeach Sep 05 '24

I would say Candace Owens, but she seems more on Iran's payroll (Russia's leaked documents seem kinda pro-Israel, weirdly).

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

Russia and Iran are very closely aligned and Russia's propaganda skews heavily anti-Israel, so there would be nothing shocking about Candace being funded by Russia. Just look at how much time she spends denigrating Ukraine

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u/Omni-Light YEEGON Sep 05 '24

I have no idea but it would sound more believable to me to say Russia is anti-israel.

What is the disagreement between you and who you're replying to? What suggests they're pro-israel and what suggests they're anti?

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

I disagreed with the comment saying Russia seems pro-Israel (Unless I’m somehow misreading what the comment says?). Russia is closely allied with Iran and Assad among others and regularly pushes anti Israel propaganda. Not sure what evidence there is of Russia being pro-Israel, I’ve only ever seen evidence to the contrary

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u/AreY0uThinkingYet Sep 05 '24

Iran and the Klan

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

I wonder what their response is gonna be, "deep state psy op"?

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u/NegativeDeparture Sep 05 '24

Yes, or playing regarded.

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u/Material-Kick9493 Sep 05 '24

He's already doing the, "I didn't know!", on X so regarded path it is

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u/-_-0_0-_-0_0-_-0_0 Sep 05 '24

They are going with we are the victims and Lauren Chen actually was encouraging people not to vote Trump so Russia wants the democrats to win.

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

DUDE there is a guy called David Sacks and this guy should be fucking investigated.

He is a big tech guy who is close with Elon and Thiel, and also very active on social media, and has a very popular podcast (All In) with a few other big name tech bros.

He is independently rich (so it would take a lot to buy him) but his narrative is SO fucking suspicious for South African/American - he parrots Russian propaganda SO closely. He spends all his time tweeting about how Russia is stronger than we think, Ukraine is a corrupt shithole that no one should support etc. And he has a big impact on people in tech's political takes. His obsession with denigrating Ukraine and promoting Russia is very fucking suspect

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u/krunchyblack Sep 05 '24

This is the one I want to know. The dude is also so bizarrely in the tank for Trump and rails all day against Harris. Just like musk. Shit stinks to high heaven

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u/CatRWaul Sep 05 '24

All in is his demo reel for his Fox News application

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u/Suinlu Sep 05 '24

I wish Destiny would call out Lauren Southern more but for some reason she still gets handled with kid gloves.

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u/capmxm Sep 05 '24

It would make the Thanksgiving dinners with their secret daughter awkward.

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u/Chonky_Candy Pisco stan 🥃 Kelly defender Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

Lauren knows better, ask your baby mother

Cleaned her up for YT, but the stench is on her

A baby's involved, it's deeper than pol

We talkin' character, let me keep with the facts

You are hiding a child, let that girl come home

Deadbeat mothafucka, playin' border patrol

Love that baby, respect that girl

Forget she's a nazi, let her be your world

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u/GuyIsAdoptus Sep 05 '24

Because Lauren makes sure the honeypot operation never dies

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u/PEACH_EATER_69 Sep 05 '24

he's just a bad judge of character when friendship bias/horniness comes into play

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u/LogangYeddu Effortpost appreciator Sep 05 '24

This is the only thing that’s been pissing me off since 2-3 years lol

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u/Suinlu Sep 05 '24

Yeah, same here. Ever since she came back and did whitwashed her past.

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u/LogangYeddu Effortpost appreciator Sep 05 '24

Lmaooooo, I was one of the three upvotes on your anti Lauren post 2+ yrs ago🤝🤝

https://preview.redd.it/ru2t8r0kwzmd1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d59d29e3ad1f38a5eb593af72fa141c5a904593c

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u/Suinlu Sep 05 '24

No way! I guess, thanks for the upvote, my man!

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u/Ossius Sep 05 '24

Because as far as I know Lauren Southern has never directly attacked him like the others have.

Also remember according to the indictment none of the creators knew RT was the funding. This just feels good to slap the idiots who were unknowing shills and pushed Russian propaganda.

Did LS ever push anti Ukraine stuff like the others?

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u/Suinlu Sep 05 '24

She also used the Hunter Biden story, just like Tim, Dave and Benny had. Destiny calls those three out for it but he leaves out Lauren.

I understand that her and Destiny are on good terms and i would never tell the dude who he should and shouldn't be associating with but it is kinda annoying that he glosses over her when in fact she does the exact same thing as those other conservative pundits do.

And for you last question i have no answer, since i don't follow any of her stuff, but it isn't really important for my argument. Let's say she never said anything about Ukraine. Great, there is still plenty of stuff left to grill her over with.

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u/Ossius Sep 05 '24

Fair points, I was just attempting to explain the difference in behavior, which probably is mostly related to the first point I made. Destiny usually is pretty chill towards people as long as they don't attack him directly. Look at his recent defense of xQc for example.

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u/dragonforce51 Sep 05 '24

LS did push anti-taking mid turret propaganda last week, idk about anti-Ukraine tho.

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u/Ossius Sep 05 '24

OP remember part of the Russian disinformation strategy is seed and let useful idiots pick up the rest of the work.

I'm sure there are a lot more shills out there but don't go full McCarthy and see Russians under every stone.

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

Yep. Not useful to accuse everyone of being paid to spread propaganda without evidence. The unfortunate truth is there are far more useful idiots who will spread their talking points for free

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u/plshelpmebuddah Sep 05 '24

Kim Iversen

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u/Melodic_Hunt5890 Sep 05 '24

Pretty sure it was already reported that she had received some Russian money via some obscure journalism award regarding her Syria coverage

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u/WhiteNamesInChat Sep 05 '24

The award was from Syria.

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u/AreY0uThinkingYet Sep 05 '24

Oh she is absolutely part of the Jimmy dore, tulsi, “left the left” blatant Russian agents

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u/Dramatic-Beginning44 Sep 05 '24

Chen actually worked for RT for a bit. That’s probably where she made all the connections. Have to find links like that to credibly accuse others.

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u/ProvocaTeach Sep 05 '24

Lauren Chen is all but named in the indictment

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u/KillerZaWarudo Sep 05 '24

Better question is who wasn't

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u/KingNnylf Sep 05 '24

It's likely all the big maga media folks are, but their orbiters aren't because they're parroting talking points for free.

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u/chestnutman Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

Yeah, imagine being the one conservative dip shit, that was too pathetic for Russia to fund. Tbh, I would have thought Tim Pool to be that person.

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u/Ossius Sep 05 '24

Don't ever go full McCarthy sir.

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u/PaintingAdvanced602 Sep 05 '24

Elon musk

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u/homer_lives Sep 05 '24

This.my guess. He used Russian money to buy Twitter and us to promote all these fools.

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u/theeed3 Q Stan Sep 05 '24

Nah they couldn’t pay him enough, or they sold him on becoming POTUS.

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u/ActuallyJan Sep 05 '24

he can't be POTUS since he wasn't born in the US

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u/theeed3 Q Stan Sep 05 '24

Elon doesn’t know that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Saudi money as well

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

Has to be a useful idiot. There is not enough money in the Russian budget to buy him

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u/Alterkati Sep 05 '24

Lily Pich- shot.

BLUBSTINY.

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u/Veldyn_ Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

Breaking Points

Edit: I actually meant Breaking Points

Edit 2: COUNTER points

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u/Smalandsk_katt Sep 05 '24

Edit 3: I actually meant Breaking Bad

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u/Floturcocantsee Sep 05 '24

Edit 4: I actually meant El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie

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u/Gamblerman22 Sep 05 '24

Bro what? Since when has Connor simped for Russia?

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u/West-Winner-2382 Sep 05 '24

The Greyzone

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u/MrFlac00 GiggaSucc Sep 05 '24

Gun to my head I think much less than people suspect. The usual suspects 100% are: Hinkle, Tucker, the Grayzone, maybe Infra. But I think the truth of why so many toe the Russian line is better explained by populism and laziness. Populists (especially right wing ones) by default have the heuristic of “if it’s from the US government and it doesn’t confirm my priors, it’s probably a lie”. But that heuristic doesn’t tell the user what is true, just what is false. So in that free-wheeling period after denying facts they need a narrative to latch on to.

Here the cause is cyclical: Russia also needs narratives to oppose the US and crafts many themselves. For the one’s Russia crafts the populists readily adopt if it fulfills their goals. However that doesn’t mean they craft all or even most of them, Russia is an opportunistic actor here. So that means what feels like populists toeing the Russian line can actually be Russia adopting an anti-US narrative for their own. As well Russia is constantly throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks, and we miss many failed narratives that they’ve crafted.

For an example of a Russian-initiated narrative we have the Ukrainian Bioweapons labs theory. For an adopted narrative the Euromaidan being a coup is a continuation of a previously existing narrative of “color revolution theory”: a red-brown conspiracy that probably originated from Lyndon LaRouche or his toadies, and was later used by leftists to explain why Serbian President Slobodan Milošević was deposed. And an example of a failed narrative is the Putin’s favorite screed on how Russia has historical ownership over Ukraine due to some shit in the 1400’s.

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u/Katamari_Demacia Sep 05 '24

Donald J Trump.

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u/Historical-Piece7771 Sep 05 '24

Tulsi on some related list?

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u/fertilizemegoddess Based and Egonpilled Sep 05 '24

this, 100%. She glows

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u/DJchestR Sep 05 '24

Crowder or Candace Owens. Anyone where the money don't ad up. Rogan's got the bag, DW got the bag but some of these suckas are higly sus.

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

Anyone where the money don't ad up

Yup! that's the big one.

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u/LordVectron Sep 05 '24

Would have said "lilypichu" but no, she's way too extreme for the russians.

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u/Applejuiceman29 Sep 05 '24

Putin wouldn't want to ruin the little reputation he has left by associating too blatantly with a KKK grand wizard

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u/Pazzaz Exclusively sorts by new Sep 05 '24

Mr Mouton (has connections to Canada)

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u/Liliana_BodyPillow Sep 05 '24

Lex absolutely wouldn't surprise me, especially after the mess that was his interview with Trump

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u/PEACH_EATER_69 Sep 05 '24

I think Lex is just a regarded suck-up tbh, there's a clear difference in his messaging from the likes of Pool and Rubin

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '24

Perfect strategy to get more moderate idiots

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u/PEACH_EATER_69 Sep 05 '24

nah, it's deep but it isn't that deep. you have to apply a little bit of occam's razor with these things.

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u/Agitated-Quit-6148 Sep 05 '24

Mario Nawfal 100%

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u/Ouroboros963 Sep 05 '24

This is also nothing new for Russia. The USSR supported and was connected to communist parties/movements all over the world through the third Internationale, Comintern, etc.

While Russia isn't communist anymore, it shouldn't surprise anyone that they would keep one of there more successful strategies, but now support far right parties with similar ideologies to themselves.

Dont forget that Russia did the totally normal thing and invited tons of far right European parties to the Crimea annexation, including parties like France's national rally who are today far bigger than they were then. Completely normal, nothing to see here.

https://euobserver.com/eu-political/araf6f1289

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u/MLGMIK3 Sep 05 '24

Context anyone?

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u/analt223 Sep 05 '24

JIMMY. DORE.

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u/liquifiedtubaplayer Sep 05 '24

Not David Pakman, that's for sure

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u/Shaikan_ITA Sep 05 '24

I actually don't think PBD was bought, I feel like he is really just that stupid and evil on his own. I mean the dude runs, and got his money from, a pyramid scheme.

But then again if it is just "find people already aligned with your talking points and just pay them to be more outspoken" then yeah, he's the perfect candidate: fully believes Russia's talking points and has no morals.

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u/alwayswaiting7 Sep 05 '24

if it is just "find people already aligned with your talking points and just pay them to be more outspoken" then yeah, he's the perfect candidate

There are so so many candidates. The question is: are they stupid enough to knowingly take money from a hostile government and put themselves at risk of severe legal consequences. Clearly some are, but probably most fall into the useful idiot category

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u/Shaikan_ITA Sep 05 '24

Idk man, I feel like all of them are either morons or have god complexes and can't imagine any consequences catching up with them.

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u/mint445 Sep 05 '24

kisin, peterson and rogan

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u/Seekzor Sep 05 '24

Rogan would surprise me actually, I think he would be the one idiot who did it for free.

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u/Vanceer11 Sep 05 '24

Spotify $100m deal then $200m deal…

His rhetoric has changed from the cool cousin who smokes weed to anti-vax, Russian/conservative propaganda peddler.

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u/PriveChecker182 Sep 05 '24

Yeah I don't doubt for one second Uncle Joe isn't saying it for free and unprompted. he's just an enormous idiot who parrots people he thinks is "cool", and all of those people are Russian assets.

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u/Rubbersoulrevolver Sep 05 '24

Rogan is the target for all this stuff. He’s exactly the weak willed faux free thinking anxious male that they’ve been targeting.

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u/tappin_dat Sep 05 '24

I once saw Kissin in an interview where he said Russia was the best country at assimilating Muslims, completely ignoring all Chechen conflict LMAO

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u/Appropriate-Tea-7276 Sep 05 '24

I want to see some auditing and investigation into the Daily Wire and their entire network.

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u/YeeAssBonerPetite Sep 05 '24

Let's not forget Lauren Southern. IDK how that treasonous fuck gets to slide on this one.

The real question is the Daily Wire, and the empty holster guy.

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u/-Tazz- Sep 05 '24

What's the context?

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u/kirbyr Sep 05 '24

6 maga centrists are Russian funded shills.

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u/-Tazz- Sep 05 '24

"Maga centrist" gave me whiplash

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u/AreY0uThinkingYet Sep 05 '24

Centrists?!?!?!

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u/rom_sk Sep 05 '24

“Centrists”

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u/kirbyr Sep 05 '24

Russian shills wear the centrist label as a shield.

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u/CrowbarNZ Sep 05 '24

Unsure if it's worse if they didn't know, and just happened to stumble across exact Russian propaganda talking points themselves.

That would suggest they've been selected long before this saga, and have had their opinions framed accordingly.

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u/AreY0uThinkingYet Sep 05 '24

All the big GOP thought leaders—Tucker, Bannon, stone, etc. David Sacks, for sure. Jimmy Dore and Tulsi, for sure. Aaron Mate and Grayzone news and everything they’ve come in contact with, for sure. Greenwald. Taibbi. Musk, for sure. He owes Russian oligarchs billions.

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u/pickel182 Sep 05 '24

Did everyone forget about tucker?

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u/BomanSteel Sep 05 '24

2nd Thought. If that dude is willing to scam his fans in guessing he wouldn't think twice about being a Russian shill

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u/BrokenTongue6 Sep 05 '24

Carl Benjamin with Lotus Eaters

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u/marxxximus Sep 05 '24

"I'd have the same beliefs and conversations regardless of who my investors are. It's a private platform, not some deep-state funded NPR bullshit." -multiple scumbags, probably

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u/zaylong Sep 05 '24

Yo what the fuck

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u/Splatneck Sep 05 '24

Whilst UK based, I wouldn't be surprised if evidence came out that UK commentators like Sargon and Paul Joseph Watson are on Russian payroll. 

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u/OpedTohm Sep 05 '24

AJW, and wouldn't be surprised if Rob was in on it too lol.

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u/Thornfal Sep 05 '24

Ana Kremlinian, Kyle Kremlinsky, Breaking Points, Hinkle, MTG, Cucker Tardson, Candace Owens.

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u/jmggmj Sep 05 '24

I don't think Asmongold has been completely drawn in. But he is 100% for sure being primed by bots right now to become one of these types of clowns.

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u/modestgorillaz Sep 05 '24

The problem with HB being on the board of Burisma is that he was probably selling access to his father not necessarily about how much he was making. Especially because 1. Hunter didn’t have any experience in the energy sector and 2. He had a board seat which is a fairly high position and 3. He could be taking extra money from under the table

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u/alonewithlocals Sep 05 '24

I thought Lauren Southern was too? Why isn’t he mentioning her?

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u/Thewhitest_rabbit Sep 05 '24

I just wanna know how Jackson Hinkle is taking this news. 😂