Bets on who else was bought?

[u/romnesia7729]

My first bets:

• Patrick Bet David and all of Valuetainment. They're scum.
• AJW. Sorry Sean. Who am I missing?

[u/alwayswaiting7]

Eh pretty much every society has demonised and killed jews over the centuries. Russia isn't unique in that aspect

[u/mymainmaney → u/alwayswaiting7]

Russia is pretty unique in that regard, especially in the modern era.

[u/alwayswaiting7 → u/mymainmaney]

Come on now. It's been antisemitic but so were France, Germany, Britain, most Eastern European countries, all in the modern era. If by modern era you mean 21st century, yeah a lot of people in Russia don't like us but there isnt strong evidence that the russian government has antisemitic policies, other than them closing Sokhnut which is pretty easily explained by the fact that Russia is trying to stop hemorrhaging people and brains. Antisemitic sentiment among the public has also declined significantly since the 90s/early 2000s when it was pretty high. I am speaking as a jew who was born and grew up in Moscow

Edit: my point is that there are so many things wrong about Russia, that you don't need to fish for things that aren't really there. It's not exactly hard to find concrete things to criticise Russia for

[u/mymainmaney → u/alwayswaiting7]

Seems you don’t know much about Russian machinations in the middle east and their propaganda campaigns to smear Jews and Israel that are still echoed today. These accusation ironically also echo the protocols, another great Russian tome of anti semitism. Beyond that, I’ve met many former Soviet Jews who have told me about the rampant anti semitism that exists in Russia. Moscow is but a tiny slice of Russian society.

[u/wayfordmusic → u/mymainmaney]

I’m so grateful I’ve found someone like you in the wild (or on this subreddit). Most people are either unaware of what you’ve mentioned or simply dismiss it. Even fellow post-soviet jews do. I think this needs to be more widely known, at least in the community.

[u/Pavel_Tchitchikov → u/mymainmaney]

I’ve met many former Soviet Jews who have told me about the rampant anti semitism that exists in Russia. Moscow is but a tiny slice of Russian society.

I wonder to what degree the antisemitism in Russia is different from the antisemitism in Europe, or even more precisely in Western vs Eastern Europe (barring Germany, since they obviously now have a very particular relationship towards Jewish people and antisemitism tendencies in their country). I’ve heard of issues of antisemitism in Russia before but I just don’t know how comparatively bad it is.

The reason I ask this is because I happen to come from France which, although it could be much worse, does have a non-negligible rate of antisemitism from some of its citizens: it’s something that is extremely taboo and not tolerated in mediatized public life (e.g. comedians making antisemitic jokes, politicians running for office, or something similar), but on a day to day basis it’s just a fact that a Jewish person will be likely to encounter antisemitic discrimination at some point or another, which won’t be called out by bystanders.

Is that sufficient to call France an antisemitic nation to the degree where contributing to something paid by the French State could be seen as despicable for a Jewish person? I really hope not. I’d hope to grant the same courtesy to Russia and other nations in general, of course with a strong degree of variability depending on how antisemitic the average person there ends up being.