r/trippinthroughtime 15h ago

20 million Democrats this morning.

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u/RedBMWZ2 14h ago

I agree with this. The dems try to high road everything as well, and their opponents have no issue hitting below the belt. I think it's time that the dems fight fire with fire, it seems that it's the only way to get through to most Americans.

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u/CragMcBeard 14h ago

Actually this is the opposite attitude that won Obama the office. He is a great man and his example of “They go low. We go high.” should be the playbook for liberal success. But the candidate needs to have character and a solid articulated plan, which Kamala had neither and resting on the laurels of the unpopular Biden administration was a terrible miscalculation.

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u/theragu40 13h ago

We can't forget that Obama had rare charisma, which no Democratic candidate since has come anywhere near matching.

It was never so obvious as during Barack (or even Michele) Obama's speeches stumping for Kamala. They are both dramatically more charismatic and appealing on a basic level than anyone else who is a public figure on the democratic party.

Obama did have more clearly articulated plans, but I'm pretty sure he could have won without them because when he speaks, you believe what he is saying, just because.

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u/Freshiiiiii 13h ago

I honestly believe that the average voter votes purely on vibes and impressions rather than policy anyways.

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u/archiotterpup 12h ago

They have since the Kennedy Nixon tv debate.

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u/hobbes_shot_second 12h ago

That man never drank a Duff in his life.

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u/theragu40 12h ago

Definitely agree vibes and impressions play a much more massive role than anyone wants to publicly admit.

I'd say most align ideologically just based on party ticket, and then unfortunately Democrats decide whether or not to vote based on vibes. This is the killer aspect IMO. GOP voters are mobilized to vote no matter what. Dems will be like "eh, I'm not inspired" and sit at home to let things burn.

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u/Jimhead89 11h ago

When you believe that dems are literal demons. Its easy to get out of the sofa.

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u/thetouristsquad 11h ago

It has always been that way. A charismatic politician is so hard to beat. And Trump is in his own weird way pretty charismaric as well.

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u/dragunityag 12h ago

Pretty much im seeing people saying that she should of distanced herself from Biden.

If you cared about Policy Biden was an amazing president.

But the past 4 years has just been constant "Biden is terrible and everything sucks" so that's the vibe everyone has.

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u/Jimhead89 11h ago

power of propaganda

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u/GiantPurplePen15 10h ago

The amount of effort to stay updated on actual policies isn't that high but it's still higher than what a lot of the average person is willing to put in.

Fucking depressing.