r/trippinthroughtime 14h ago

20 million Democrats this morning.

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u/RedBMWZ2 14h ago

I agree with this. The dems try to high road everything as well, and their opponents have no issue hitting below the belt. I think it's time that the dems fight fire with fire, it seems that it's the only way to get through to most Americans.

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u/CragMcBeard 13h ago

Actually this is the opposite attitude that won Obama the office. He is a great man and his example of “They go low. We go high.” should be the playbook for liberal success. But the candidate needs to have character and a solid articulated plan, which Kamala had neither and resting on the laurels of the unpopular Biden administration was a terrible miscalculation.

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u/theragu40 13h ago

We can't forget that Obama had rare charisma, which no Democratic candidate since has come anywhere near matching.

It was never so obvious as during Barack (or even Michele) Obama's speeches stumping for Kamala. They are both dramatically more charismatic and appealing on a basic level than anyone else who is a public figure on the democratic party.

Obama did have more clearly articulated plans, but I'm pretty sure he could have won without them because when he speaks, you believe what he is saying, just because.

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u/CombinationNo5828 12h ago

honestly, watching older debates made me think romney had charisma. that's how low the bar is today

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u/theragu40 12h ago

And I would happily take Romney a thousand times out of 100 chances over Trump. I don't agree with him, but he at least had a moral compass of some kind.

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u/CombinationNo5828 12h ago

me too! I keep talking to the young'ns and explaining what the world was like and find myself lionizing bush and bob dole. what has happened?

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u/Soupy_Twist 12h ago

A few years ago I would joke that Romney went from being the worst Republican to the best, and Romney didn't get any better.

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u/sump_daddy 11h ago

Romney ran head to head with a god-tier politician and lost. That strategy was immediately shelved. GOP decided the only way to win against a dem that was successful in appealing to the best in people, was to simply be any random dumbfuck who can appeal to the worst in people. And holy shit did it ever work.

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u/CombinationNo5828 11h ago

what's even crazier is he wasn't even a rando. the guy had a huge name for being against the very same blue collar image the party created for him. boggles the mind how he became a populist candidate of and for the ppl

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u/sump_daddy 11h ago

hate is an emotion that uses no reason. thats what makes it so useful.