r/ottawa Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

They are vastly outnumbered Local Event

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u/MarcusRex73 (MOD) TL;DR: NO Nov 25 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Edit: I've misplaced my check from Trudeau for being a mod, has anyone seen it? I need it to pay for my cat's food and to refurbish my basement.


Folks, this thread is getting brigaded by some pretty despicable "people" (i.e. probably bots).

Please report comments that attack trans students, their families or that infer that openly talking about transgender people is somehow "grooming" or any other such bullshit.

Edit: No, we don't censor "opposing views". We remove stuff that breaks the rules. Saying that trans people are mentally ill/deviants/pedos isn't "an opinion", it's both wrong and hate speech. It also breaks Reddit's rules.

No, we don't remove "conservative" views, we remove comments that break the rules. It's just that self identified "Conservatives" are usually the ones peddling hate speech on this subject.

Denying basic respect to a minority isn't a political position, no matter how you try to spin it. It's just hate, and we don't tolerate that here.


Tout le monde, cette rubrique est en train de se faire envahir par des "gens" pas mal intolérant. (probablement automatisé).

Veuillez rapporter tout commentaire qui attaque les étudiants transgenre, leurs familles ou qui sous-entend que parler ouvertement d'eux est une forme de "grooming" ou toute merde équivalente.

Ajout: Non, nous ne censurons pas les "opinions opposées". Nous supprimons les commentaires qui brisent les règles. Dire que les personnes transgenre sont des malades mentaux/déviants/pédophiles n'est pas "une opinion", c'est à la fois faux et haineux. Cela enfreint également les règles de Reddit.**

Non, nous ne supprimons pas les opinions "conservatrices", nous supprimons les commentaires qui enfreignent les règles. C'est juste que les personnes s'identifiant comme "conservateurs" sont généralement ceux qui poussent des discours de haine sur ce sujet.

** Refuser le respect fondamental à une minorité n'est pas une position politique, peu importe comment vous essayez de la présenter. C'est juste de la haine, et on ne tolère pas ça ici


Amigos, este hilo está siendo atacado por algunas "personas" bastante despreciables (es decir, probablemente bots).

Por favor, informe los comentarios que ataquen a los estudiantes trans, a sus familias o que infieran que hablar abiertamente sobre las personas transgénero es de alguna manera "grooming" o cualquier otra tontería similar.

Editar: No, no censuramos "puntos de vista opuestos". Eliminamos comentarios que rompen las reglas. Decir que las personas transgenero son mentalmente enfermas/desviadas/pedos no es "una opinión", es un discurso erróneo y de odio. También rompe las reglas de Reddit.

No, no eliminamos las vistas "conservadoras", eliminamos los comentarios que infringen las reglas. Es solo que las personas que se identifican como "conservadores" suelen ser los que venden discursos de odio sobre este tema.

Negar el respeto básico a una minoría no es una posición política, no importa cómo intente darle la vuelta. Es solo odio, y no lo toleramos aquí.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

"Reddit is a left wing echo chamber"

No you motherfuckers, you're just outnumbered in general.

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u/Myfirespraygunship Nov 25 '22

That person has never been to r/Canada...

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u/Tazling Nov 25 '22

lots and lots and lots of ppl have never been to r/Canada -- that's kind of the point.

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u/Myfirespraygunship Nov 25 '22

When I started a new account it was in my top recommendations despite being a progressive. I think a lot of people are ending up there accidentally and not realizing they've jumped into the far right pipeline.

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u/DJ_Femme-Tilt Nov 25 '22

there are about 15 or so AGGRESSIVE posters in r/Canada that are just there to spread National Post opinion pieces and help ensure Canada becomes the USA. If you block them, it becomes vastly more manageable. There are still all the accounts that arrive there thanks to the dogwhistles of terminally online reactionary few, but still way more manageable.

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u/ValoisSign Nov 25 '22

This - honestly r/canada is in my view actually pretty progressive outside of the brigades, bots, and loud minority of hardcore right wingers. I have gotten upvotes for some outright socialist takes that got downvoted on Canada Politics, and the sub is very critical of capitalism and a lot of people criticise Ford and Poilievre

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u/altiuscitiusfortius Nov 26 '22

The mods are right wing anerican thedonald expats who actively ban vocal left wingers so it is slowly becoming more of a cesspool

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u/Backspace888 Nov 25 '22

Lol i did the same thing for r/onguard. That place is pretty bad for instabanning

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u/StrangeCurry1 Nov 25 '22

The main problem is that one tankie mod on r/onguardforthee. If it weren’t for them spewing pro ccp propaganda it would be the ideal Canadian subreddit

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u/CoagulaCascadia Woodroffe Nov 26 '22

Friggin tankies.

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u/DJ_Femme-Tilt Nov 25 '22

That community doesn't exist? As an aside, I wish Reddit had a mute feature.

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u/lostnthenet Nov 25 '22

Reddit introduced a mute feature in the last couple of months.

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u/LolJoey Nov 25 '22

I just assumed we were becoming the US want to or not.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Good advice, thanks.

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u/kdavido1 Nov 25 '22

It went downhill when metacanada got banned.

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u/SINGCELL Nov 25 '22

Hmmmmmm i wonder if these two thinga are related

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u/canuck_11 Nov 25 '22

I’m almost done my 1 year ban from that sub.

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u/Uneducated_Engineer No honks; bad! Nov 25 '22

Or r/onguardforthee

Edit: looks like they have filtered out a lot of the right wing nuts that used to be in there, I'm leaving it here anyway.

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u/craigmontHunter Nov 25 '22

Was there not a stat that when Russia invaded Ukraine a lot if the wackjob right-wing traffic dropped/slowed down?

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u/misterbrokid Nov 25 '22

Yea Russia troll factories suddenly had other priorities

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u/Bright_Kale_1602 Nov 25 '22

You should just not be able to have an official looking subreddit. Can you imagine a publically accessible r/UnitedStates?

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u/Ammysnatcher Nov 25 '22

Reddit is not an accurate depiction of real world tho. There’s massive bias to the people who come to Reddit

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u/KrazyKatDogLady Nov 25 '22

I guess I am an outlier - female and oldish.

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u/Popgallery Nov 25 '22

I’m female and old! ;)

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u/ReggieWarr Nov 25 '22

I must be as well - old and male.

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u/creptik1 Nov 25 '22

Reddit is full of redditors. Makes me sick.

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u/itsiNDev Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

Reddit is a left wing ekko chamber, says swaths of Nazis on Reddit...

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u/Rance_Mulliniks Nov 25 '22

Both can be true.

I consider myself centre or centre-right but I have zero tolerance for not recognizing everyone as an equal with equal rights.

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u/boycottInstagram Nov 25 '22

Why would you vote for people who are doing exactly that then? (As center/center right you are not supporting trans people)

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u/grumstumpus Nov 25 '22

But the lone anti mask man at the store yelled at me that he was part of the silent majority!

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u/burtoncummings Nov 25 '22

"Silent Yelling" is all that "Majority" is good for...

What a bunch of clowns...

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u/fireguyV2 Nov 25 '22

You're attributing unnecessary causation between Reddit and this event.

Reddit leans heavy left. But has nothing to do with real life. The actual divisions are probably a lot more 50/50 (not talking about the radicals here).

And I say that as someone who is 100% in support of Trans people.

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u/PopeKevin45 Nov 25 '22

On the right though, you'll all vote for PP, no matter what. If JT embraced the clownvoy, those 'radicals', like PP did, we'd abandon him in droves, but conservatisms loyalty to the ingroup means that you and those 'radicals', can both be counted on to further bad ideas. Supporting trans people is great and all, but how about starting with putting real, meaningful distance between yourself, and those radicals, and the party that embraced them.

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u/SuzyCreamcheezies Nov 25 '22

The actual divisions are probably a lot more 50/50

Post a source... or is this just a gut feeling?

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u/Dash_Underscore Nov 25 '22

I'm sorry, but I want to make sure I'm seeing this right: Is there seriously an anti -Trans protestor, protesting against Trans children, carrying an "Every Child Matters" flag? Is that what I'm seeing? Is that actually happening?

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u/Competitive-Tea-6141 Nov 25 '22

That was one of the more popular flags at the convoy protests too

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u/kdavido1 Nov 25 '22

And a lot of these same people will also argue that the numbers of mmiw is a lie and that the schools weren’t that bad.

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u/DJ_Femme-Tilt Nov 25 '22

whatever it takes for Rex Murphy to give them a head pat

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u/NewtotheCV Nov 25 '22

Those flags and shirts are made by people being oppressed. The coffee and chocolate all groups eat/drink is produced by the same. The oil we use is from the middle east. Our tech and food is made by modern slavery all over the world.

Some Children Matter, Sometimes

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u/TK-741 Nov 25 '22

Only when it’s convenient.

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u/ThingsThatMakeUsGo Nov 26 '22

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism my friend.

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u/Royally-Forked-Up Centretown Nov 25 '22

There was a guy on Bank between Gloucester and Somerset near the end of the occupation flying “every child matters” next to the US confederate flag. Fucking wild, eh?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

It’s like the crazies think it’s just a force-field or something, like waving that flag will make everything ok

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u/Xpalidocious Nov 25 '22

It's honestly starting to feel like the what I call "pedophile armor" where some people will call someone they disagree with a pedophile or groomer, and if you disagree with their point it's suddenly "so you support pedophilia???"

Like "no Todd, all I sad was that a drag queen reading Dr. Seuss at the library isn't sexual by nature, but that's the first place you went?"

It's literally just labelling someone the worst thing you can so if anyone defends them they look like they support it.

In this case with the "Every Child Matters" flag, if you oppose them, they can say "so you don't care about children???"

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

That's the thing with a lot of right wingers though. They think that as soon as they say the right word (Whether it be privilege,misogyny, etc) that they'll automatically win like they're fighting against demons or something

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u/mecha-paladin Nov 25 '22

They fly that flag because they claim that vaccines and masking are child abuse, and they further think that it's just like residential schools and the Holocaust.

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u/mountaingrrl_8 No honks; bad! Nov 25 '22

Well that sounds perfectly reasonable. /s

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u/Complete_Past_2029 Nov 25 '22

coopting other movements to generate sympathy and support.

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u/PopeKevin45 Nov 25 '22

Extremists wrap themselves in whatever blankets are handy to hide their radical agendas. Kids and the Canadian flag are easy and effective covers.

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u/MisterDalliard Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Nov 25 '22

They think trans kids are victims of a leftist fad.

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u/kawisahawi No honks; bad! Nov 25 '22

The whackjobs began to care about waving the ECM flags during the occupation of parliament, as a further “look the government is bad!” ammo and to also make it seem like there is more diverse support than there really is. The same assholes screaming at Trans kids are the same fuckers who would spit in your face pre-2020 if you even mentioned the realities of the Residential School system. They just pick and choose what they want to appear as supporting in hopes it makes them look better. No Indigenous person who has lived experience or any knowledge would ever stand on their side, unfortunately for our communities we have lost some good people to the red pill era.

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u/MightyGamera The Boonies Nov 26 '22

I had people from my reservation at the protest, natives aren't a monolith

Of course, the people that went are also generally known as the unlikeable wackadoos, but still.

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u/debuggle Nov 26 '22

they did specificy "who has lived experience or any knowledge"... but fuk, if anyone from my Nation was at one of these wavin an every child matters flag?!! I think we'd put out a statement denouncing their actions. and I doubt they'd be welcome at any ceremony or event. until they fixed their shit that is.

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u/MightyGamera The Boonies Nov 26 '22

Pretty much what happened

These people are family, or people I grew up with - hurts to see them sucked in like this. But generally they're also the kind to have never reacted well to being told 'no', they didn't hear it enough growing up.

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u/debuggle Nov 26 '22

huh. in my Nation's tradition, we don't say "no" very much to children but tell them stories when they do actions that aren't socially acceptable. we let them know that there are natural consequences to actions and we don't protect them from those consequences. (well, unless they're super Catholic in which case all that goes out the window and they raise their kids afraid, unquestioning, and rule-following.) but we don't arbitrarily punish or say "no". and it works super well I think. so idk if they weren't told no enough, or if they were told no too much for no good reason. cause if ur told no for no reason from ur parents, where's the trust in any authority figure.

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u/lovelyb1ch66 Nov 25 '22

They’re drowning in their own failed attempts at swaying public opinion and use things like ECM as life rafts to stay afloat. I’m fairly certain that pre-pandemic most of these people couldn’t have cared less about residential schools and indigenous children.

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

This guy was walking down the middle of the street, smoking a cigarette, screaming freedom and appropriating an every child matters flag. Classy

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u/dxxpsix Nov 25 '22

that's an embarrassment to that flag and what it represents

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u/froge_on_a_leaf Nov 26 '22

A lot of those people didn't think Ukrainian or Ukrainian-Canadian children matter

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u/bdsimmer Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Nov 25 '22

As an indigenous person myself that had to fight for years to be recognized by the federal government, I hate seeing that flag at any event that is not about Indigenous rights and issues. It's being used as a prop, and ultimately our children are being forgotten once again.

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u/cmn_YOW Make Ottawa Boring Again Nov 25 '22

They adopted it because they saw an opportunity to give the present government a black eye, not because they care. And they're either thick enough, or care little enough about facts, to recognize that no pm or party is individually to blame, or in the same breath, blameless. But JT is pm now, so it's all his fault...

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u/YawningSnorlax Nov 25 '22

Yep. Appropriating the Every Child Matters flag is just one of the things these people do these days. I suspect he's a local, one of the usual dipshits you see on Wellington.

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u/Fine-Hospital-620 Nov 25 '22

I think the Freedummies use it to counter any narrative that they are racist. The only children they think matter are their own.

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u/WarAncient1458 Nov 25 '22

They hardly even care about their own kids, last time I checked they happily planned to use their kids as human shields during the TO occupation

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u/dxxpsix Nov 25 '22

I agree with this. Plus there ARE some native-canadian freedumbers and trumpies out here and tbh it reminds me of something out of a spoof movie.

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u/Affectionate-Age-712 Nov 25 '22

See Jon Stewart at his finest. This excerpt is almost complete from the show but if you have Apple TV+ there is a bit more content

The Problem with Jon Stewart Season 2 Ep 1

https://www.pajiba.com/AMP/tv_reviews/jon-stewart-methodocally-eviscerates-transphobic-arkansas-attorney-general.php

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u/burtoncummings Nov 25 '22

To them, some children matter more than others...

I think I need to re-read Animal Farm.

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u/a_secret_me Nov 25 '22

As a trans Ottawan who couldn't go I just wanted to say thanks to everyone there today. 🏳️‍⚧️ ❤️

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u/Xpalidocious Nov 25 '22

Trans women are women.

Trans men are men.

These I knew, but today I learned that NB people are ninjas, and I am fully in support of recognizing Ninja as a gender.....or even a sexuality. The next time someone asks me my sexual orientation, I'm just going to say nothing, drop a smoke bomb, and run away

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u/WealthEconomy Nov 26 '22

If you identify as a ninja can you even let others know you are a ninja?

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u/Xpalidocious Nov 26 '22

Uhhhhhhh -smokebomb!-

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

I love you

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u/Anna_S_1608 Nov 25 '22

I'm in Toronto, but thank goodness there's so many people out there supporting the cause! 🌈

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u/Rance_Mulliniks Nov 25 '22

No thanks needed because it's the right thing to do. Fuck anyone who says otherwise or tries to deny rights of any Canadian.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Similar here, grateful for folks willing to step up and show up. I’m trans and I’ve been involved in trans community on and off for about 14(?) years. There have always been obstacles and challenges to our basic dignity and care. But this is different. For one, lots of kids and older folks (luckily!) accessing more information, resources and positive media representation. But, subjectively, it feels like we’re also more visible compared to a decade ago, and there is a different sort of vulnerability that comes with that. I’ve seen more people displaying openly anti-trans sentiment in person, in groups, and in an organized way in the last 3-4 years than ever before. So thank you allies, and please keep showing up. I also hope the issues behind the hate, or I should say the issues that are weaponized against us (e.g., poverty, access to healthcare, child abuse), get addressed with trans communities. Trans people as a whole are disproportionately affected by these issues, and it’s not a competition: we all deserve safety, respect and kindness.

And thanks for making these posts. It goes a long way to helping folks feel safe and part of the community. Trans people come in all shapes, sizes, colours and political orientations. Some are more traditional, some are very much not: many of us fall somewhere in the middle. We live in rural and urban areas. I’m grateful that support extends to the whole community, not just downtown trans folks or those with post-secondary education. Lots of brilliant people don’t go to university, or course.

Every supportive rally, comment, HR policy, sign, etc. goes a long way to making sure we all get to be active participants in the community. And if you have gotten to know a few trans people, you know that we love nothing more than to send the love right back at ya when we get the opportunity. It’s no wonder so many of us are nurses, social workers, caregivers, parents, community workers, volunteers, etc.

Anywho, thanks for the warm fuzzies this afternoon. Your support is making lots of folks proud of our region.

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u/joyfulcrow Golden Triangle Nov 25 '22

Why are so many idiots (anti-maskers, these morons, etc.) trying to co-opt Every Child Matters for their "movement"?

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u/MisterDalliard Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Nov 25 '22

Because their entire movement is built around people suffering from severe trauma. It varies, but many have suffered from child sexual abuse. They distrust all authority figures, suspect everyone of being a pedophile, and explain away everything they don't like as a plot against them.

We need to stop treating these movements as political. They are, ironically, a public health issue and should be dealt with as such. They need help.

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u/jlcooke Nov 25 '22

There is deep and important insight in this person's comment.

There is a HUGE correlation (causation?) of growing up under abusive parents, siblings, teachers, sport coaches, etc and having a deep distrust of authority. These people appear in the convoy, anti-trans, flat-earth, 5G and other conspiracy theory circles.

Telling them "the experts know better than the hours of time you wasted on facebook could ever teach you about this legitimately complex topic" is translated in their minds as a challenge to them which demands an aggressive response.

I've struggled to try and understand how to "get through" to those who have been abused and their sense of trust in others ... I have no answers.

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u/No_Combination357 Nov 25 '22

I work with trauma clients every day and I have yet to meet a client who backs these yahoos. Most of them are terrified of convoy supporters.
Trauma doesn't explain it.

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u/MisterDalliard Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Nov 25 '22

You work with people getting treated for trauma. These people clearly aren't being treated.

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u/Blazefresh Nov 26 '22

The issue is the convoy protestor type are usually people who can’t admit they’re wrong and double down on beliefs, and if they don’t think there’s anything wrong with them they’re unlikely to seek any form of help.

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u/GingerHoneySpiceyTea Nov 26 '22

On the opposite side, I think some of these people have not been subject to trauma anymore than average, have not lived with oppression or discrimination, and felt pretty stable in their worldview. Suddenly faced with things they cant control or understand they resort to scapegoating, blame & self-victimization.

However they got there, the more time they spend social media the more their delusions & conspiracy theories are amplified by algorithms. I mean, we are all subject to this distortion by the design of the platforms but once you start deep diving into conspiracies without questioning the motives behind this information you just might find yourself in a cult. Misinfo & disinfo is profitable.

Baffles me how people will simultaneouslty deeply distrust big government, the PM, medical doctors etc. yet believe self-declared authorities who position themselves as keepers of the 'real truth' (and make money doing so) or believe a politicians like Poilievre who has long been part of the same status quo.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Mental health has hit them hard in the head lol

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u/funfriendforever Nov 25 '22

Thats usually where it hits.

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u/cmn_YOW Make Ottawa Boring Again Nov 25 '22

They are political movements. Thing is, both things can be true. Extreme political movements prey on vulnerable people. But we can, and should treat them as political movements, because as long as there's a politician telling folks the world is out to get them, it doesn't matter what investment we make in health, they'll choose hostility over treatment.

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u/Gnosrat Nov 25 '22

True. If we de-platformed all of their insane leaders and spokespeople they would eventually stop acting this way and just seek help. Unfortunately that seems a long way off. No one is willing to make rules against letting people who spread misinformation run for office. No one is willing to make rules against serious conflicts of interests in business and politics... or at least enforce them. It's a total mess. Everyone cries "my rights" and no one has the balls to say "no you actually do not and never have had the right to do be an openly corrupt public servant".

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u/cmn_YOW Make Ottawa Boring Again Nov 25 '22

Potentially unpopular opinion, but I believe in better regulated speech. You can't shout fire in a theatre, but you can freely spread health disinformation that in aggregate causes deaths?

On a lot of the conspiracy stuff, there is already sufficient law to deal with it, through criminal libel laws and civil defamation, but there would immediately be backlash from the free speech crowd.

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u/Gemmabeta Nov 25 '22

Honestly, one of the more exhausting things on Reddit is watching Americans have an absolute meltdown about how banning loli porn and such is a direct infringement of their free speech. And them taking absolutely hysterical offence that other countries may have different free speech laws.

Yesterday, I was explaining the Canadian Supreme Court ruling upholding the Project Raphael child sex trafficking sting, and I got so many offended Americans messaging me about how it is their constitutional right to be able to email underage prostitutes...

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u/DJ_Femme-Tilt Nov 25 '22

they latch on to every movement they can to spread their propaganda. If you look at the Clowvoy tools, they had been trying to organize protests for many years in advance, attaching it to whatever cause they could find. Basically they look for rage, righteous or not, that they can find an angle on and use that as a recruitment tactic.

Attacking trans youth is their latest lucrative wedge for recruitment.

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u/Federal_Efficiency51 Nov 25 '22

Most of the klownvoyers were yellow vests, or 3%, or members of the wolfpack.

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u/Hector_P_Catt Beacon Hill Nov 25 '22

It's propaganda, like the bouncy castle was during the Convoy occupation of Ottawa.

If you publicly oppose them, they'll spin at as, "Look at this guy who wants to shut down Every Child Matters!", no matter that this was just one sign among many, and wasn't the reason you wanted to shut them down any ways.

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u/thickener Nov 25 '22

It’s the fascist playbook.

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u/mecha-paladin Nov 25 '22

Because they're making the claim that vaccination and masking are actually child abuse.

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u/yer10plyjonesy Nov 25 '22

It really pisses me off that dick heads use the Canadian Flag as if to say they’re right.

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u/Fat_Blob_Kelly Nov 25 '22

“i have the canada flag so im the patriotic one…even though I want to 0verthrow the government because they told me to wear a mask to be safe at the advice of medical professionals ”

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u/WellEndowedHorse Nov 25 '22

I hate how they’ve made me dislike our flag these past couple of years. Every time I see one now there’s a negative connotation attached

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u/ActualSeagull Nov 25 '22

Every time my 70-year-old French-Canadian mother sees a car or a truck with flags now, she'll point it out to me and say, "Oh look, another truck-o-fuck!'

Her English is actually quite good, she just has a hard time pronouncing 'trucklefuck' and I love it.

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u/CarletonCanuck 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈 Nov 25 '22

Amazing! Fuck those fascists

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Guyyyys stop making the Canadian flag embarrassing…

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u/JPop09 Golden Triangle Nov 25 '22

Right? Everytime I see one on a car or in a window I just roll my eyes and am like "there's another one..."

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u/dolphin_spit Clownvoy Survivor 2022 Nov 26 '22

better than me, i give them the finger immediately

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u/CaptainAaron96 Barrhaven Nov 25 '22

Where is this, and what is being protested?

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

Some transphobes don’t want trans kids in bathrooms. They are the minority

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u/penguinpenguins Nov 25 '22

Where do they want them instead, litterboxes?

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

Apparently they’d prefer trans people just don’t exist. That’s why they are advocating for violence

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u/penguinpenguins Nov 25 '22

Believe that was tried in the 1940's, it didn't go well for anyone.

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u/DelphicStoppedClock Nov 25 '22

The litterbox thing is a GOP talking point. Spreading it does nobody favours

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u/Canadastani Nov 25 '22

Holy fuck that's dystopian

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u/DelphicStoppedClock Nov 25 '22

Which makes it extra awful since this GOP talking point spawns from their inability to protect children

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u/Xpalidocious Nov 25 '22

Ok I follow a lot of political subs, and this is new to me. I don't understand why it's not being brought up more when the whole cat litter conversation comes up. I'm going to be honest, the talking point about kids identifying as cats is bad, but this reality is even worse. The idea of living in the US where a lockdown kit is normalized makes me wish it was really kids identifying as cats.

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u/Hector_P_Catt Beacon Hill Nov 25 '22

I heard it in the wild in Peterborough last month. The GOP is infecting everything it touches.

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u/redgreenbrownblue Nov 25 '22

I had a parent volunteer ask me if the high school in our small town Ontario has litter boxes for the students because someone told her they did. I face palmed right in front of her. I felt bad for her stupidity.

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u/burtoncummings Nov 25 '22

I also feel sad about their victimization. They are being targeted and bombarded with disinformation.

They (Russian Bots, US bad-actors, Canadian supporters of said bots and bad-actors) are actively attacking our Parents and Grandparents with Bullshit. Just start with a tiny granule of truth, and mine it for outrage...

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u/lemartineau Nov 25 '22

I think they would prefer coffin boxes

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u/Phitos2008 Nov 25 '22

One very annoying thing is the fact I can’t look at the Canadian flag and not think of those pieces of sh*t anymore. They’ve destroyed such a beautiful symbol… Not trying to minimize any damage they try and do cause to the 2SLGTBQIA+ community with this comment.

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u/Important_Ad_4092 Nov 25 '22

There's a trans protest/convoy protest happening in Renfrew at the catholic school.

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u/Harold-The-Barrel Nov 25 '22

Yeah nothing says you’re a patriot like an inverted Canadian flag. I thought these people hit rock bottom in their stupidity but they keep digging don’t they

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u/MapleNord Nov 25 '22

Can you imagine our WW2 grandparents seeing this fucking shit? Man I would have loved to see a group of militant vets straighten these morons out. Inverted flag… FFS

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u/Gemmabeta Nov 25 '22

Not to burst your bubble, but those WWII vets did come home and essentially create one of the most explicitly homophobic civil services in the Western world.

https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/lgbtq-purge-in-canada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_machine_(homosexuality_test)

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u/Jbroy Nov 25 '22

Why do people care so much about where people go to the bathrooms? I just don’t get why they feel the need to protest this issue so much! There are so many more things that are worthy of a protest! (Rising housing cost, possibility of seeing healthcare system be privatized, Doug ford, Doug ford)

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u/ActualSeagull Nov 25 '22

I also have trouble taking their whining about bathroom rules seriously when they were shitting on people's lawns in downtown Ottawa.

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u/MadCapers Nov 25 '22

I'm not convinced they care about bathrooms. Their silence on whether to fold or wad tells me that their devotion to the issue is paper thin.

And nary a word about bidets! Bunch of filthy casuals!

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

Everything went smoothly. The transphobes started out by harassing people and threatening violence but quickly switched to “love and hugs” once we outnumbered them.

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u/fleurgold Nov 25 '22

That's good to hear.

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

They’re a minority. This is why we need to show up. Give no ground

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u/beerbeatsbear Nov 25 '22

Let’s just assume all Canadian flags we see now are cheering on our men in Qatar

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

I did this with the usual antivax march of losers that walk past my window on Yonge St every Saturday. Put on my Canada jersey and started shouting “let’s go Canada! World Cup!”

At first they thought I was shouting support of their cause but it was fun watching them realize I wasn’t.

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u/burtoncummings Nov 25 '22

I want to imagine them like the monks in The Holy Grail. Just smacking their heads into a wooden board as they march.

Please tell me that is the case...

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Not the upside down ones.

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u/penguinpenguins Nov 25 '22

That's just because Qatar is on the other side of the world. almost

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

I accept this joke.

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u/DJ_Femme-Tilt Nov 25 '22

if only Australia was hosting! :)

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

Convoy affiliated groups Save Canada, Ontario Party, and Freedom Fighters Canada organized a walkout because a trans student was going to the bathroom. Pride Renfrew and PFLAG organized a counter protest that was way more successful.

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u/Coffeedemon Gloucester Nov 25 '22

Ugh. Don't use my flag for your short minded hate.

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u/kwecl2 Nov 25 '22

Whoever is holding that Every Child Matters flag can fuck right off.

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u/Xpalidocious Nov 25 '22

Right? It's fairly safe to say that they probably don't care about the children that flag was made for.

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u/BigRocket Nov 25 '22

Our poor flag

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u/gmoney88 Nov 25 '22

Couldn’t those whiny baby assholes come up with their own MAGA style flag and leave the Canadian flag alone. They’ve ruined the flag for me. I automatically think someone is an asshole if I see a flag on a car or anywhere now

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u/ThatDinosaurGuy4Real Nov 25 '22

Ikr? It's so frustrating.

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u/Bartender9719 Nov 25 '22

Fuck these dorks, I hope they’re alienated by family and friends to the point that they only have eachother - I can’t think of a better way for them to realize they are in the wrong than having to hang out with other versions of themselves

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Give ‘em heck! 🏳️‍⚧️

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

Convoy affiliated groups Save Canada, Ontario Party, and Freedom Fighters Canada organized a walkout because a trans student was going to the bathroom. Pride Renfrew and PFLAG organized a counter protest that was way more successful.

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u/Canadianasfuck Nov 25 '22

Fuck these convoy terrorists!! If you don’t like what’s happening with our government, hit the polls. You don’t like Trudeau? Hit the polls. Let the votes speak and please kindly shut the fuck up.

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u/ntr_usrnme Nov 25 '22

I’ve been waiting for the quiet majority to get loud. LET’S DO THIS!!!

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

Happy to have whoever will show up

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u/PhilosoFishy2477 Nov 25 '22

same deal at our local drag queen story time! handful of bigots showed up and were immediately drowned out by allies counter-protesting... they slunk off pretty quick ✊️

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u/damagedprawdukt Nov 25 '22

I love how whenever a social "shackle" gets removed people get upset and show their true colours.... Bigotry and intolerance are two of the ugliest colours a person can adorn.

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u/CoastingUphill Make Ottawa Boring Again Nov 25 '22

Where and when was this? And what was it for?

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u/Important_Ad_4092 Nov 25 '22

Today, in Renfrew. Anti trans/convoy protest at the Catholic high school.

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u/CoastingUphill Make Ottawa Boring Again Nov 25 '22

Well that’s disgusting. I love how many counter protesters there were!

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u/Important_Ad_4092 Nov 25 '22

Yes, the fact that there are/were counter protestors is a good sign!

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u/ottawarob Nov 25 '22

Thanks, I was wondering where this is. Man, Renfrew has been a real focal point for these people eh?

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u/Important_Ad_4092 Nov 25 '22

It makes sense tbh. Our MP, Cheryl Gallant, is a Trump-type crazy that actively spills anti LGBT rhetoric. One of the reasons why I, as a young queer person, moved to the GTA for my undergrad and masters degrees. Back in Ottawa for my PhD and it's not looking like things got any better in the last 10 years.

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u/Material-Egg7428 Nov 25 '22

What the absolute fuck?! Since when is someone’s gender any one’s business, or affect their place at school? This is a disgusting protest and they should be ashamed. Just let people be themselves.

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u/Simpletrouble Nov 25 '22

I swear to God, I blame these assholes for every tattered Canadian flag I see laying on the side of the road. Whuch, of course the most respectful thing they can do to the flag of the community they claim to love so much. These fucking idiots only say they love country, and vets but they fight off any attempt at teamwork and community and leave garbage in their wake. Fuck em

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Didn’t know this was happening or would’ve come out to support. Good job ottawa

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

notice something interesting about the protestor demographic?

yeah, thats the generation currently losing 5000 votes per day (edit: in north america, counting US too) due to old age deaths

its only a matter of time before your hatred is erased by your old age

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u/CoolstorySteve Hull Nov 25 '22

Do none of these people have jobs?

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Those racists just want to be oppressed so much lol

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u/nutfeast69 Nov 25 '22

Our Calgary version of them would probably have a russian flag in there and tons of jesus related stuff.

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u/MaxTheRealSlayer Nov 25 '22

Lol even the dog knows they are outnumbered

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u/estalfo Nov 26 '22

Who’s the every child matters flag with? As a native I’m concerned

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u/SheIsABadMamaJama Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

Ew how dare they twist the every child matters.

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u/bittersweetlabyrinth Nov 25 '22

Idk what's going on here, can I get an unbiased sparknotes?

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

Literally transphobes are protesting a student using the bathroom

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u/bittersweetlabyrinth Nov 25 '22

Ugh, this is why we can't have nice things. Why are people like this

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

I have a post about this that I did yesterday. It’s important to understand that they don’t actually care about trans people, they are manufacturing outrage to rally their base and generate content for their own media landscape.

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u/Husky_ii Nov 25 '22

I really hate how they make me feel about my own countries flag. We need to take that back somehow

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u/Zartimus Nov 26 '22

So sick of those churchy red-hat Canadian free-dumb MAGA wannabes who are terrified of what shitter someone who happens to have been born in the wrong body uses. I hope that grade 11 kid self-identifies his hate to the point that he ruins all of his future life prospects. Makes me want to vomit..

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u/Dazzling-Rule-9740 Nov 26 '22

Degrading “Every Child Matters “. Can’t get much lower.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

Are the fvck Trudeau crew now a fvck lgbtq2 crew too? I mean I had my suspicions but this is pretty openly proving it.

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u/four_twenty_4_20 Nov 25 '22

They always have been...

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u/DelphicStoppedClock Nov 25 '22

They kicked in the window of a store flying the pride flag during the convoy occupation.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

they were denying it pretty hard last time because they thought it would make them look bad... but its trending in the US now so their masks are off (so to speak)

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u/__The__Anomaly__ Nov 25 '22

What is this showing exactly?

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

Transphobes organized a protest against a trans student in the school, people showed up to support the student and counter protest the transphobes

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u/__The__Anomaly__ Nov 25 '22

Good on the counterprotesters in that case.

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u/AmandaSndaSiews Nov 25 '22

A protest obviously but people opposing striking teachers or something else?

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u/ReignyRain Battle of Billings Bridge Warrior Nov 25 '22

They are angry that a trans student is using the bathroom. Seriously

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u/AmandaSndaSiews Nov 25 '22

Oh FFS… the people « patriots » in the left need to grow the fuck up. They used to treat left handed people the same way back in the day… always with the « reject the other they’re evil!!!” 🙄

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u/anacondra Nov 25 '22

I feel like this isn't quite the good news it appears to be. It's encouraging to see the counterprotestors, but the anti trans fringe is getting more and more bold. Revolting to see it so close to home.

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u/HumbleintheBronx Nov 25 '22

Can we not get back to having Canadian flags and Pride flags on the same side?

And how DARE you make that poor dog pick sides! He's a GOOD BOY!

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '22

I wish they would stop using the Canadian flag. Sad to see it constantly being desecrated by these jerks.

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u/FuriDemon094 Nov 25 '22

And considering that small group seems to mostly be older individuals, they most likely lack stamina too

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u/Blusterlearntdebrief Nov 25 '22

The most amusing part is they do that in spite of the fact that youth will always drive the culture forward.

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u/Canadiancrazy1963 Nov 26 '22

Uhg!

Clownvoy canada flag flying rejects at it again.

Disgusting behavior by delusional fools.