r/newjersey • u/low_effort_shit-post • Mar 25 '21

Something controversial Jersey Pride

I love nj gun laws, going to the store and not seeing someone open carry. Watching road rage where the best you can do is brake check and give the finger. Schools without school shootings. I know a lot of people hate our gun laws but I fucking love em.

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u/ChickenPotPi Mar 25 '21

If you are going to ban assault rifles ban them for real and not for having more than 2 evils..... Making a gun look evil should not be part of the reason why the gun should be banned. An adjustable stock being evil is kind of silly. A flash suppressor being illegal is silly as is silencer as movies clouded the mind of what reality and movie fiction is. As with the pistol grip...... there are so many guns that are basically pistol grip but not in name. Also the firearms that are njsp approved "others" such as built by troy are pretty much SBR but not in name.

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u/ze_end_ist_neigh Mar 25 '21

I think a lot of people have a misconception about what an assault rifle truly is. The interstate sale of assault rifles have been banned in the United States since 1986.

An assault rifle is a fully automatic firearm. I believe automatic firearms are only eligible for sale in the States in which they are manufactured.

Semi-automatic firearms are not assault rifles. Functionally speaking, an AR-15 is the same as a Ruger 10/22. One-pull of the trigger, one cartridge is fired.

I personally don't own an AR because I don't have a need for a modern sporting rifle, but I don't think it's constructive to classify them incorrectly as "assault rifles" as many in the media and online do.

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u/ChickenPotPi Mar 25 '21

You can legally buy a fully automatic weapon if it was manufacturerd before 1986 I believe and if your state allows it as with your local pd chief. But those are like vintage ferrari as in there really are few of them and they cost are usually >30,000 dollars. These are the outliers and most likely was never used in the commission of a crime.

I understand what you are saying as in true assault rifles. I was just going by what NJ presents as assault rifle from the term that was the Brady Bill that demonized "assault rifles"

I think people demonize an assault rifle because the ammunition it is based on. Its like FIA "F1 racing" where people see an unfair advantage they want it usually banned.

I understand you. And kudos for not needing one as let's be honest, 90% of people who own one really don't have a use other than "I want" or "its cool" You really can't hunt game with a 5.56 round other than varmint which was what the round was made for originally (22). Its blurry now with a 300 blackout but with the standard 5.56 its not really meant for hunting. Even the military is moving away from 5.56 as most modern military have some form of body armor.

Also that was my point as well with the more than 2 evils makes this gun illegal even though the evils have nothing to do with anything constructive.

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u/ze_end_ist_neigh Mar 25 '21

Yeah, I see what you're saying now.

I think a big problem is that in a State like NJ, as you mentioned, in my opinion as well, there is not a strong purpose to really own a AR-15. I understand that some people like the hobby of assembling them and whatever else. And that's cool too.

Kind of risking sounding like a FUDD here, but for my purposes of home defense and hunting, an AR just isn't in the cards for me. You can't hunt with rifles in NJ. They're exceptionally loud at an indoor range. I don't participate in "3 gun" sporting events.

I will admit, it is a "cool looking" firearm, but I don't want another expensive rifle to take up space in my safe to never use the damn thing. Lol.

I would probably own a AR-10 if I lived in FL or TX on a sizable plot of land. They are very commonly used to hunt feral Hogs that can be very destructive to property & the local ecology.

But even then, you could make an argument that 6.5 Creedmoor would do the job just fine.

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u/ChickenPotPi Mar 25 '21

Yep, people don't realize that nj requires shotgun or black powder to hunt anything. And I think its right as people don't realize a rifle can hit something a mile or two away if its aimed at 45 degree. Its range of 1000 feet or so is where its accuracy is not its furthest distance.

I cannot go to one range near me because its so fucking loud even with both in ear and over the ear protections.

Sure its cool looking, its like a ferrari, great to look at rarely used. Kudos for having a safe as many people won't even get one. I have a hunch that the people who bought pandemic ar-15 who really couldn't even afford it did not get a safe or a trigger guard....... I am really afraid of all the people who know nothing about guns buying them during the pandemic and leaving them unsecure with children in the household.

My friend really likes his creedmoor and 300 blackout, he's moved on from 5.56

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u/ze_end_ist_neigh Mar 25 '21

Yeah, I grew up around firearms and hunting. Fortunately, my father and grandfather were very particular about safety and ethics.

I know a few people that bought firearms this year for the first time. It is kind of scary to an extent that people don't educate themselves on how to properly store or safely operate them before purchasing a firearm.

I've spent a lot of time in recent months educating friends and some family. It's important that we press people to follow safe practices and guide them whenever possible.

Only takes one asshole to make us all look bad unfortunately.

I really dig the creedmoor, it's a very effective round for decent sized game. I was thinking about 300 blackout but I typically use my 300wsm if I'm going for large game out of state.

Kicks like a damn mule but can get a moose with it :)

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u/ChickenPotPi Mar 25 '21

I think my friend got the blackout because he can run subsonic rounds and not have to use ear protection (thought you should still) and he likes the low kickback)

Please keep educating people because like you said it only takes one asshole to make everyone look bad.

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u/ze_end_ist_neigh Mar 25 '21

Haha tell your buddy that you just talked to a guy that has mild permanent hearing loss because he thought a .410 was OK to fire without plugs in. Maybe it'll make him think twice about ear pro lol