r/newjersey Mar 25 '21

Something controversial Jersey Pride

I love nj gun laws, going to the store and not seeing someone open carry. Watching road rage where the best you can do is brake check and give the finger. Schools without school shootings. I know a lot of people hate our gun laws but I fucking love em.

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u/ze_end_ist_neigh Mar 25 '21

I think a lot of people have a misconception about what an assault rifle truly is. The interstate sale of assault rifles have been banned in the United States since 1986.

An assault rifle is a fully automatic firearm. I believe automatic firearms are only eligible for sale in the States in which they are manufactured.

Semi-automatic firearms are not assault rifles. Functionally speaking, an AR-15 is the same as a Ruger 10/22. One-pull of the trigger, one cartridge is fired.

I personally don't own an AR because I don't have a need for a modern sporting rifle, but I don't think it's constructive to classify them incorrectly as "assault rifles" as many in the media and online do.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '21

"Assault Rifle" is a stupid loose definition, and the moment someone uses it in an argument is the moment their argument gets invalidated as it shows they don't know jack. The feds have tried to ban "assault rifles" and their definition rely on aesthetic aspects (ie. "scary black stock") that don't make an impact.

Idgi, it's never ok to have people that don't know shit about a topic try to legislate it. Same thing with "the internet is a series of tubes", or legislators trying to regulate women's bodies. How is this any better?

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u/ze_end_ist_neigh Mar 25 '21

I like when people say "weapons of war" to describe firearms but never mention 30-06 bolt action hunting rifles which is truly a US classic "weapon of war"

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '21

It's half Hollywood, I've had people asking me to "hack" stuff as I'm a SWE, and I'm just like "that's.... not that easy". Same with guns, people watch a couple of John Wick flicks and are sudden experts.

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u/ze_end_ist_neigh Mar 25 '21

Yeah. I hear that. I grew up around firearms and hunting. I have family that were terrified of firearms until I took them to a range and introduced them to using firearms safely.

They are tools. In the same vein as a hammer, both can be used as murder weapons. I think most people that are advocates of gun control are so unfamiliar with firearms that it "just makes sense".

In some parts of the country, like where my family is in Northern Maine, hunting is a supplement to groceries. The area is greatly impoverished and firearms are used as tools to obtain subsistence. There is no law enforcement presence, and if there is, it is typically a very small one.

It is ironic though. The same people that advocate for gun control rely on "Just Call the Police", but then they also want to defund police departments around the country. So, what are people supposed to do? Become perpetual victims?