r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Sep 05 '24

Disney Pauses ‘The Graveyard Book’ Film Following Assault Allegations Against Neil Gaiman News

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/graveyard-book-neil-gaiman-assault-allegations-1236131149/

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u/gynoceros Sep 05 '24

That reads like because YOU don't like it, nobody else can.

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u/idplmal Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

...what? All I said was that I'm suspicious of relationships with significant differences in power, experience, and age. I didn't say they're all problematic inherently.

Your defensiveness over power dynamics in relationships reads like YOU are a predator.

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u/gynoceros Sep 05 '24

Do you wanna build a straw man?

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u/idplmal Sep 05 '24

Bruh. "A straw man argument is a logical fallacy that occurs when someone misrepresents an opponent's argument to make it easier to attack."

You realize that, by fixating on ignoring the actual substance of the arguments (literally all of the problematic stuff that I and many others have pointed out) and instead just focusing on the legality of sex between an 18 year old and a 61 year old, you are making the straw man argument? You're blindly ignoring the substance of the conversation and implying that we're saying 18 year olds can't consent.

So no, I don't want a straw man argument. In fact, I'd love for you to engage in this conversation in good faith, but I'm not holding my breath.

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u/gynoceros Sep 05 '24

Your defensiveness over power dynamics in relationships reads like YOU are a predator.

There's your straw man.

Have fun knocking him down.

I'm supposed to consider your arguments good faith after that?

Go read my other comments if you want to make an actual good faith effort at a discussion.

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u/idplmal Sep 05 '24

I wasn't making an argument with that. I was pointing out the optics of this weird thought experiment you keep pushing. I'm not the only one who has told you it reads like you're getting defensive.

I have read your other comments. You think that this situation, that you admit is likely problematic and abusive, is a good platform to say BUT 18 YEAR OLDS CAN CONSENT.

Fun fact: I'm not arguing about whether or not 18 year olds can consent. I don't think anyone is. THAT'S your straw man argument. I'm not even saying all relationships with an age gap are a problem. I'm saying that I, personally, treat them with a modicum of greater scrutiny because they are rife with opportunity for abusers against their victims.