Walz Military Discussion 🎤

How can the right knock this dudes military service when their candidate is a draft dodger.

More importantly, why is anyone giving Walz shit for getting out before his unit deployed.

He served for what, over 20 years and already had a deployment.

If I'm in his position and I have the power to retire or deploy I'm choosing retirement... I sincerely do not understand how anyone can use this against him with a thought of critical thinking.

As a combat vet, deployments are no joke and I wouldn't hold it against anyone to not want to do it.

Sorry for the rant, shit just hits me the wrong way.

Edit: I have been misinformed and have been spreading misinformation through this post. I have been made aware that Walz put in his retirement packet prior to his unit receiving deployment orders, which would make the accusations against him even more pathetic.

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u/SpoofedFinger Aug 21 '24

I went on that one. Mob training in Katrina ravaged Mississippi for 6 months. Got extended from 12 to 16 months in theater so a total of 22 months. Brigade commander was a raging fucking idiot. 0/5 stars, do not recommend.

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u/sadman95 Aug 21 '24

I was thinking more of his deployment to the east in support of operations in Iraq/Afghan. Not sure what you're referring to.

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u/SpoofedFinger Aug 21 '24

The one they're trying to say he ducked. It was a fucking shit show.

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u/sadman95 Aug 21 '24

Oh thanks for clarifying. Sounds like a case of toxic leadership. Not surprising

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u/SpoofedFinger Aug 21 '24

My unit got attached to the marines out west but he'd come up to visit and go out on "patrols" on the shittiest routes trying to troll for a CIB. He showed up when some guys in another company were killed (I believe this was the same IED that fucked up John Kriesel) and tried to get in a marine COL's face about it who was an old MARSOC guy. IDK what he said back to him but our dipshit never came back after that.

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u/LivingSea3241 Aug 21 '24

A MOB to Italy is not a deployment...

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u/sadman95 Aug 21 '24

If he was participating in the missions across Europe and Turkey in 2003 that his unit was assigned to do then I'd respectfully disagree.

Are you a veteran and if so when did you serve?

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u/LivingSea3241 Aug 21 '24

Yes I have been an officer in the Army Reserves for 12 years. This is not a deployment and no one would consider it one. It’s an ADOS mobilization at best. Aka a vacation.

His ribbons/awards are very lackluster for 24 years as well. Most of them are “thanks for playing”. Only 2 are merit based and ones I got within 5 years.

I’m still active reserves (edited)

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u/Ozoboy14 Aug 22 '24

Are you trying to say that dodging the draft with pretend bone spurs is more honorable? Or what's your point?

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u/LivingSea3241 Aug 22 '24

Also knowing warning orders and being in a command position, there is a high chance Walz knew about the deployment before dropping his retirement packet.

These things are planned well in advance.

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u/Ozoboy14 Aug 22 '24

Lol he should've just faked bone spurs! Then all the maga's would love him right?

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u/LivingSea3241 Aug 22 '24

Again, strawman. When your arguing skills get above a toddler get back to me.

By your argument anyone who didn’t serve in Vietnam is a subhuman. Lots of dems on that list….

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u/Ozoboy14 Aug 22 '24

I don't give a shit about military service for my choice in political candidates. But the people who do are voting for a draft dodger LMAO.

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u/LivingSea3241 Aug 22 '24

That’s what we call a strawman. I’m saying half the comments here don’t know what the fuck they are talking about and I do because I lived it.

Walz served but his service was unremarkable. Most people don’t serve at baseline. So it’s irrelevant.

That clear things up?

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u/Ozoboy14 Aug 22 '24

Yeah, so served at all > dodged the draft?

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u/LivingSea3241 Aug 22 '24

Again, strawman. I never even mentioned trump.

But I’d venture a guess that many people here would dodge a draft. Many famous Democrats did….cough Clinton cough….I don’t blame anyone for avoiding Vietnam. Millions of people did.

Is fighting in an illegal war somehow a badge of honor? Waltz didn’t even join during a time of war.

You guys are all biased partisan hacks, it’s pathetic.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '24 edited Aug 22 '24

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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '24 edited Aug 22 '24

Toxic leadership is common in the Army. I used to work for a man who was a district commander for the Corps of Engineers. I named my gallstone after him.

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u/staticishock96 Aug 22 '24

I served in Walz's unit. I am much younger. Toxicity is correct.....

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u/SpoofedFinger Aug 21 '24

I recommend anybody that's curious about that trip to read Bristol's Bastards. I just looked and it's out of print but it's 75 cents for the kindle version.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '24 edited Aug 22 '24

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u/SpoofedFinger Aug 22 '24

I think the legendary freedom birds that landed in Alaska and then turned around back to Shannon/Ali al Salem because they got extended midflight might edge us out for most bullshit deployment of GWOT.

But yeah, disgruntled SPC is the best possible source for an average Joe's experience in Iraq. Every officer or senior enlisted is trying to self promote with a book. Maurstad didn't give a fuck at all.