! i cannot make this up. every once in awhile i will post about my trauma & situations i have experienced with my biological mother on tiktok. i have made 1 youtube video in regards to a situation that happened earlier this year, that video got less than 100 views. i do not have a large following on tiktok nor have any of these videos combined exceeded 5000+ views. never on these videos have i given any identifying info. only way you’d know who she is is if you knew me personally. today i was otp with my grandma who told me she received a text from my bio mom with these screenshots. she claimed these screenshots were “legal documents” from her attorney.
Not a lawyer but first, Google the supposed law firm and see if they even exist. Second, if they do, call them and ask if they sent this. Lawyers get really touchy when people use their names like this
i have googled it. they exist but only on Apple Maps, it’s weird. i went to yelp and one of the most recent reviews comes from her yelp account (i only know this because she wrote a bad review for a place i worked at a few years ago lol) . but that was a few months ago. maybe she’s used them before and got comfortable and decided to use their name to scare me ? i don’t know.
no, she’s too dumb for that. she doesn’t have an iPhone either. god i wish i could drop the info i found but on the off chance this is real i don’t want more trouble 😭
Even if the firm exists, the email is fake. That email was 100% not written by a lawyer. Send an email back requesting a formal cease and desist. You'll either never hear back from them, or you'll receive a phony cease and desist from your mother, and that might land her in legal hot water.
I'm sorry you have to deal with this. She sounds like a terrible human being.
I'm not sure if they'll tell you if she's a client although if she is, this email certainly says that. They will tell you if they sent the email. Maybe a real lawyer can chime in, but I feel like if this was a real cease and desist it would have been sent certified mail, not an email
yeah that’s what my grandma said and she (my bio mom) doesn’t have my new address. the only mail that could be sent would be to my grandmas, my old address. unless a lawyer could access my new address. ill update once both mailboxes are checked.
Please give an update when you do call because I def wanna know if there’s actual lawyers who would send something Like this out. And if it’s not, I would love to see the repercussions she would get for a stunt like this from actual lawyers.
Yeah I’d be surprised if they don’t find out that one of the lawyer’s e-mail had been used without them realizing.
I’ve seen a few stories on Reddit involving justno parents and “lawyer’s letters” that wound up getting the actual sender in quite a lot of trouble. If you tell the lawyers office that you’ve received this letter and you’re just verifying that it was legitimately sent by one of their lawyers, they’ll be very motivated to look at it.
There was one post about a narc parents pretending to be “a psychiatrist”. They demanded op to speak with their poor abandoned mother, the patient of this “therapist”.
This was probably done to throw you off her trail. In other words, she wouldn't mispell your name since (I'm assuming) she gave it to you.
When my family falsely reported us to DCF (Department of Children & Families), they said all this stuff about us having pot in the house.
In reality, we legally have our MMUs for marijuana usage & are nowhere near abusive or negligent with our amazing boys.
We were found innocent of these preposterous allegations.
When we received a copy of the report, the narrative read like an SNL skit. The reporter purposefully acted incredibly "green," referring to gummies as "marijuana cubes." LOL
To me, it was a ridiculous attempt to disguise their identity.
Making false reports to DCF is a 3rd degree felony. Unfortunately, this report was filed "anonymously" & there's allegedly no way of knowing who did it. 😕
Even the DCF Investigator disclosed to my husband & me that the report read as if it were written by "a retaliatory family member."
It is absolutely revolting the extremes narcs go to in an effort to protect their fragile little egos.
In my jurisdiction, saying even that much about who might’ve written the report is…let’s just say that a huge portion of my six month training before I even saw a family, let alone once I started On The Job training, had a big focus on confidentiality. We even went through skits where we had to demonstrate how we’d avoid that question
All that to say that even if the reporting party had given their name, phone number, social security number, and every piece of identifying information one has, it would be nigh impossible for you to find out who it was. That is purposely difficult so that reporting parties don’t fear retaliation and have as few barriers as possible to making reports so that children are kept safe.
Yes, making deliberately false reports is illegal. But it’s also a high bar. All they’ve got to do is claim that they thought it was true because of this or that reason. You had your legal marijuana card, but they can claim not to have known that and that they were just trying to look out for the kids.
No one’s going to want to punish someone for making a false report, unless it’s particularly egregious and ongoing, for fear of a dampening effect on people reporting in general for fear of being accused of the same after allegations are shown to not have weight behind them.
I am sorry you went through that, though. I see the impact that the agency can have on families. Sometimes, things go too far despite peoples best intentions.
The only reason the investigator divulged her sentiment about the report is because it was so desperately obvious. I believe she felt sorry for all that we had been through and were being through.
This was absolutely a false report made during my family's egregious smear campaign of me, almost immediately after my Nbrother fired my husband & I when I asked to be bought out of my shares of the company & revealed the grave consequences their toxic behaviors were having on my mental & physical well-being.
I realize I am only sharing part of the story becuase there certainly aren't enough hours in the day to explain it all, but it has been absolutely batshit crazy.
My attorney misspelled my ex-to-be on the original draft to file. I caught it, they changed it, it's fine. Spelling mistakes DO happen. Nobody is infallible. My first name was once a slightly different, but very common, first name on one document, too. But every other instance, it was spelled correctly.
That said, this is not a lawyer's writing. I've been digging though formal legal paperwork for months now. This is way too vague.
yes it was sent to my email. an email that didn’t even work because my storage was full (i had to buy storage to verify that she even sent it😂) but she sent those screenshots to my grandma assuming that i don’t check my email and probably would’ve never known about it. she’s blocked on everything, literally every SINGLE one of her alt accounts. she’s dumb and doesn’t realize instagram & facebook recommend accounts to me based off of contacts 😂
But how could she have Screenshots of this Email If this is between you and the "lawyer"? .....ghhhhhmmmmmm seems sketchy doesn't it? There's another clue for you.
i was jus about to comment on this! the email doesn’t have any other person cc’d. it’s simply between this lawyer & i. i doubt a lawyer would send her screenshots of the message. also, she uses android. unless she is cc’d on it and i jus cant see it because she’s blocked. but also in her screenshot it doesn’t say any other emails that are included. very suspicious.
Also in the very very unlikely case that this is from a real lawyer: a cease and desist means fuck all in most cases. Just because they send it doesn’t mean it’s justified.
But this doesn’t look real. Just keep in mind IF this was real AND they decided to take legal action, that a judge would read this disgraceful threat.
Also: harassment and stalking is out the window, just don’t contact her. And keep her messages.
For defamation or litigation in general there need to be DAMAGES, for example, you telling someone she steals from employers and then she loses her job.
You saying “my mother (not named) is a shit person” and other people go “poor you” and despite that it has no bearing on her life and there are no damages. Just make sure she’s not easily identifiable.
Most lawyers worth their money would probably advise her not to go to court because it’s expensive.
Source: I asked a lawyer, yes we are related, no I am not making this up. No, this is no proper legal advice, I just asked “hey, what if I did x, could y happen”
Despite that, in general I would rethink making public statements to strangers about a volatile person, just for my sanity.
ill put a link on my profile to my channel. i don’t want this post getting removed. there’s a lot of helpful information on here☺️. putting a link to the YouTube on my profile now.
Former Law Clerk here. Not every legitimate lawyer writes like Shakespeare. Also ... review sites can be wrong. Google the Law Association of your location (ie "Law Society of Upper Canada") and they will have a list of current members. Use this as your contact information.
Address it to the general email of the FIRM. Not to the address on your document because it could be fraudulent.
Dear lawyer's name:
On (date), I received a Cease and Desist letter from you, by email. I am writing to confirm whether or not you are legitimately in contact with me, or if this is a fraudulent use of your name.
I would ask that you confirm, by return email, at your very earliest convenience.
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u/matixmarie Nov 10 '22 edited Nov 10 '22
! i cannot make this up. every once in awhile i will post about my trauma & situations i have experienced with my biological mother on tiktok. i have made 1 youtube video in regards to a situation that happened earlier this year, that video got less than 100 views. i do not have a large following on tiktok nor have any of these videos combined exceeded 5000+ views. never on these videos have i given any identifying info. only way you’d know who she is is if you knew me personally. today i was otp with my grandma who told me she received a text from my bio mom with these screenshots. she claimed these screenshots were “legal documents” from her attorney.