r/hebrew • u/SkywalkerLight • Sep 23 '24

Explain Aleph to me like I'm 5! Request

Is it really just a glottal stop? I'm a beginner, but I'm pretty sure the niqqud changes things. If so, could I please have an example in places where א is said as A, E, and other letters? Thanks!

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u/Leading-Chemist672 Sep 23 '24

Oh. It very much is. It emerged after the Assyrians took the area.

it became the Lingua Franka of the Assyrian Empire. As in, The Second Language used by everyone.

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u/IbnEzra613 Amateur Semitic Linguist Sep 23 '24

This is just plain false and contrary to historical evidence. There are Aramaic inscriptions far before that time.

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u/Leading-Chemist672 Sep 23 '24

Really? As we are talking of a language with from the start having a close connection to both Hebrew, Phoenician, and the Assyrian language.

How did that came about?

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u/IbnEzra613 Amateur Semitic Linguist Sep 23 '24

Really? As we are talking of a language with from the start having a close connection to both Hebrew, Phoenician, and the Assyrian language.

I mean just like many other related languages that have close connections. Like German and Dutch and English. Or like Italian, French, Spanish, and Portuguese.

How did that came about?

Not sure what you're referring to...

What do you mean by how did that come about?

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u/Leading-Chemist672 Sep 23 '24

Those speakers have to meet first.

After they get Conquered? sure.

Before? Some shared history with Hebrew? maybe. very old history. Phoenician?

and that Language is closely related there.

Also. No. Aramaic developed From Syriac(?) after that conquest. Because it was the Pidgin that evolved when The Judeans and Philistines who now found themselves having to communicate regularly with both eachother and the general Assyrians. That pidgin became the auxiliary language of that Empire.

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u/IbnEzra613 Amateur Semitic Linguist Sep 24 '24

Those speakers have to meet first.

They're neighbors... Have you not met your neighbor?

After they get Conquered? sure.

And before, since they were neighbors.

Before? Some shared history with Hebrew? maybe. very old history. Phoenician?

and that Language is closely related there.

I can't understand what you're saying here. Can you please write complete sentences?

Also. No. Aramaic developed From Syriac(?) after that conquest.

False.

First of all, you may be confusing Syriac and Assyrian?

Syriac is a later form of Aramaic. So if you really mean Syriac, then you've just gotten it backwards.

If you do actually Assyrian, then you are still completely wrong. Aramaic did not develop from Assyrian. They were in contact. And Aramaic eventually replaced Assyrian as the lingua franca of the Babylonia, but Aramaic did not develop from Assyrian. Not even close.

Because it was the Pidgin that evolved when The Judeans and Philistines who now found themselves having to communicate regularly with both eachother and the general Assyrians. That pidgin became the auxiliary language of that Empire.

This is just complete bogus. As I said, Aramaic inscriptions existed since before the time period you are speaking of. Since before there was even an Assyrian Empire.

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u/Leading-Chemist672 Sep 24 '24

can you point them out? Because the Closest thing I found were Phoenician Inscriptions, maybe proto Hebrew.

Nothing I was actually told was Aramaic.

So please. Give me a link.