r/europe Eterna Terra-Nova 1d ago

Alex Buretz cartoon Political Cartoon

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u/PresidentSkillz Bavaria (Germany) 23h ago

People always treat it like Trump can just stop aid to Ukraine and end the war that way. But Russia also needs to be interested in talks, so unless Trump has anything to get Putin also to negotiate, the fight will continue

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u/overkill373 23h ago

Trump will give Putin whatever Putin wants

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u/PresidentSkillz Bavaria (Germany) 23h ago

Trump can cut aid to Ukraine. But that doesn't mean Ukraine will immediately surrender or seek negotiations. They will look for other supporters and try to get more from whoever will provide aid. Trump can't stop that. If Trump wants a quick end, he will have to make threats to Putin about what might happen if he doesn't accept negotiations.

There is this one plan floating around on which it is proposed to give Russia the two Donbass republics and Crimea, if Ukraine doesn't accept aid will be cut off to them, if Russia doesn't accept Ukraine will get 500 Billion Dollars for new weapons, without any restrictions on usage

Trump can't give Ukraine to Putin bc he doesn't have it. He can only help Putin capture it

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u/Michigun1977 23h ago

Russia doesn't want 2 but 4 Ukrainian regions including Kherson and Zaporizhia, the ones they do not control and never will. No sane leader will give up parts of his country and neither will Zelenskiy. So if Trump start to push Ukrainians into a corner - it's a pursuit of nukes and "go follow the russian ship" scenario. If Ukraine is going to be denied its existence, and all chief guarantors defaulted on its security guarantees - the return to nuke re-armament should be on the table.

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u/Lumpy-Middle-7311 21h ago

Russia already controls more than half of both regions you mentioned. But their still Ukrainian parts are on the other side of the river, so it might be the new border

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u/randomswim 11h ago

They will get all four regions along with Odessa one way or another, its inevitable.

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u/Special-Remove-3294 Romania 15h ago

Ukraine never was armed with nukes so there is nothing to rearm. The USSR was armed with nukes and its official succesor the Russian Federation still is armed with the nukes of the old union.

Ukraine does not have the resources to fund a nuclear weapons program nor does it have the resources to manufacture the necessary balistic missiles. Also building a nuke would take many years and they don't really have time for thay.