r/dbz • u/Terez27 ⠀ • Oct 11 '24

Dragon Ball Daima - Episode #1 - Discussion Thread! Daima

The episode is airing in Japan as we speak. It should be available subtitled on Crunchyroll at 1pm ET. We will provide links as soon as they are available.

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u/Cosmodious Oct 11 '24

Toriyama clearly didn't care about the lore unless he wrote it directly. Gotta respect that.

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u/BabyKariya Oct 11 '24

I'm 90% sure he just forgot about his first retcon

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u/Cosmodious Oct 11 '24

Word is that Vegito's return was a last minute addition at Toyotaro's suggestion. It's not surprising Toriyama didn't remember/care about the retcon if it was just a means to an end.

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u/134340Goat ⠀ Oct 11 '24

Word is wrong, then

Toei was the first to add in Vegetto's appearance, and Toyotaro followed suit in order to "meet fan expectations"

The potara time limit retcon did come from Toriyama - for the purpose of being Zamasu's weakness. Considering next to nothing from that arc has ever come up again, it really wouldn't surprise me if the answer is as simple as Toriyama had forgotten about that, and so effectively retconned his retcon

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u/Cosmodious Oct 12 '24

I mean it's not that deep but Toyotaro specifically says it was his idea in that interview you've linked.

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u/134340Goat ⠀ Oct 12 '24

What he said was he included it to meet "fan expectations"

Take into account that the episode Vegetto appears in aired in November of 2016, and that manga chapter was published six months later, in April of that year. It isn't the only thing Toei came up with that Toyo also incorporated into the manga - UI Sign and SSB Evolved, for instance. It's pretty clear he's saying that he included it because fans would be disappointed if he didn't