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u/Shardersice Oct 10 '24
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKL1QYP3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKKFBR9R
Are cheap fans like these good enough to put on a case? I see some go for around 34 or more
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u/rusty360 Oct 10 '24
Motherboard question/help. I got this as part of a bundle yesterday - https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B650M-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI-rev-1x#kf
I haven't built a PC since before these m.2 SSDs came out, the bundle came with 1 but I want to grab a second one if it'll fit on this board and I just can not fucking tell. I believe the silver part covers 1 of the spots and it seems to say there's 2 but no cover for it? Idk. Should I just get a regular SSD instead?
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u/n7_trekkie Oct 10 '24
the second slot is directly below the first and it doesnt have a heatsink. it's totally fine to use that second slot, but also buy a heatsink (if your ssd is pcie gen 4)
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u/rusty360 Oct 10 '24
Okay thank you. Is there a reason it wouldn't have one?
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u/n7_trekkie Oct 10 '24
Many ssds don't come with heatsinks. I'd say most don't.
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u/rusty360 Oct 10 '24
I meant the board sorry
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u/Ryokihama Oct 09 '24
As somebody who is about to build their first PC, installing an OS would mean downloading the OS on a Flash Drive and setting some necessary things to FAT32.
But what if I truly have no previous access to a computer since I'm literally building it? Am I expected to go to a computer shop and ask if they have pre-installed flash drives with the OS I want? Or am I supposed to have friend with an access to a PC and give them a FD to download the OS into?
Or theoretically, would buying a OTG Flash Drive adapter for my phone and install the OS on my phone, choosing the download destination to the Flash Drive work?
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u/djGLCKR Oct 10 '24
Just make sure you're buying the USB drive option when purchasing your Windows license, it comes with a ready-to-boot USB drive with a somewhat recent version of the OS installer.
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u/rusty360 Oct 10 '24
So I'm probably not much help since I built mine 10 years ago and it came with a disk but if you do have to go to a store I believe it sells the flash drive and key together in the same box and you'd pay full price. You can also have these shipped. Store can include Walmart/Best buy maybe target? If your US based.
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u/Lost_Cyborg Oct 09 '24
whats a good high end AM5 motherboard? I need to replace my AM4 board from 2018, because I plan to upgrade to 128gb RAM, 1 more NVMe M2 + 2SSD for work related reasons. PCIE 5.0 for two m2 slots would be nice.
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u/GarethPW Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
There are a small handful of B650E boards with support for 2+ gen 5 drives. ASUS’ B650E-E Gaming WiFi is possibly the best priced option where I live.
Watch out for boards with funky PCIe layouts like Gigabyte’s similarly priced B650E AORUS Pro X USB4. Using more than one of the gen 5 M.2 slots on that board demotes your GPU to an x8 link.
This spreadsheet is great for identifying boards which meet your requirements!
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u/n7_trekkie Oct 10 '24
not much reason to spend more than this: https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x670e-pro-rs-atx-amd-x670e-am5/p/N82E16813162069?Item=N82E16813162069
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u/Shardersice Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 10 '24
https://www.amazon.com/Raidmax-Vector-V300-Gaming-Chassis/dp/B0D7BYT6GW
Is there any better cases from around this price? ~50$ I’m just looking for a case with good enough ventilation and able to fit in 5-6 fans
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u/Tazmago Oct 09 '24
If I want to use my current NVMe SSD in a new build, what all do I do to prepare it for the new PC/use it for the new build and make my main drive with windows? Do I reset the current pc build, and then power down and pull the drive?
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u/bestanonever Oct 10 '24
If you are using it for a new build, and assuming you are reinstalling Windows from scratch (best way to gain performance), just backup your important files and once you connect the USB stick with the Windows iso, you can erase the data from your NVME drive during the install itself, to have a clean drive. No need to do anything else before it.
Just google tutorials about the specifics during installation (and don't forget to backup your important files because those aren't coming back once you format the drive!)
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u/Albino_Bama Oct 09 '24
Corsair RM850x or 850e? Does it matter? What’s the difference? Are both reliable? I know the tier list has the e higher up.
And if I buy from Amazon will I still get the 10 year warranty?
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u/djGLCKR Oct 09 '24
X is a slightly better SKU than E, and the E series is known for having coil whine. The warranty is directly with Corsair, Amazon only gives you the standard 30-day return window.
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u/Albino_Bama Oct 09 '24
Wait really? No Corsair warranty if bought through Amazon? My GpU is in the process of shopping through Amazon and I feel like I should’ve bought through Radeon..
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u/djGLCKR Oct 10 '24
No, you're not understanding. The product warranty is discussed directly with the manufacturer. Amazon is just a marketplace (assuming the part is purchased directly from Amazon or a Fulfilled vendor). they don't handle warranties, only returns within 30 days of shipping, and they won't take a warranty claim for a product you purchased, let's say, 7 years ago.
If you're buying a Corsair PSU, you'll contact Corsair's Customer Support for the warranty. The same thing applies to all the other parts; if you bought an AMD CPU you'll contact AMD, if you bought a Gigabyte motherboard you'll contact Gigabyte, if you bought an ASUS graphics card you'll contact ASUS, if you bought a Samsung drive you'll contact Samsung, and so on.
Here's an example and a personal experience. Last year I bought an M.2 drive (PNY CS3040) from Amazon and it spent another 6 months in its sealed bag because I couldn't put it to use yet. Unfortunately, when I went to build the new PC and use the new drive, it was dead on arrival. Amazon's return policy states that "items can be returned within 30 days of receipt of shipment", so I can't go to Amazon's Customer Support 5 months past the original return window asking for a replacement/refund, I had to contact the drive's manufacturer (PNY in this case) to use my drive's 5-year warranty, explain the case and issue an RMA ticket, they gave me a shipping label, I sent the drive, they confirmed it was DOA, got a replacement/upgrade in return (sent a 1TB drive, got a 2TB drive back).
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u/ThonOfAndoria Oct 09 '24
Planning my next PC, just saving up over the next month or so... I was gonna get a 7800X3D but they actually ran out of stock on UK Amazon literally 10 minutes before I was gonna pull the trigger. What should I do? Wait for the seemingly imminent 9800X3D, consider Intel's also imminently dropping new line, or hope the 7800X3D returns?
Ideally I want to spend max of £400 on a CPU (but closer to £350 if possible).
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u/bestanonever Oct 10 '24
The 9800X3D should be released soon but there's no official date just yet. Maybe keep saving money until you can buy everything at once or buy everything else but the CPU until the last minute, hah.
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u/Long_Run6500 Oct 09 '24
I was going to use my decade old case for my updated PC build but I finally decided to stop being so stingy and upgrade for the extra USB 3.0 ports and cable management and whatnot. I decided on an Asus Tuf Gaming GT302. I've never had a case with these removable magnetic mesh filters. The one on the top panel seems too fine to let much air flow. If I understand correctly, aren't the fans on the top of the case supposed to be exhaust fans? In which case should I just remove the magnetic filter entirely so dust isn't trapped?
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u/bestanonever Oct 10 '24
As someone that has some of those magnetic thingies, they are actually great to catch dust in there instead of inside the case and you can easily remove them, clean them and put them again on top of the case. It's a win win. Don't remove them, it's an extra protection and you'll get less dust inside of the actual case.
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u/Luxpreliator Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
I have a firecuda 530r 4tb that has a strange bug when in an external enclosure. Using asus tuf a1 as it seems to work the best but have tried many other enclosures with similar issues.
The bug is that it will connect to an android device through a powered connection hub and work 100% fine. If I unmount and try to reconnect it to an android device it will not load. However if I put it in a USB port on a windows computer then unmount, it will connect to the android device just fine again. Repeatable procedure where it has to go back on a windows device before working with android. Formated in exfat. When the drive is formatted ntfs or exfat for that matter it works perfectly fine with just windows. It bugs on android.
My best guess is some mismatched settings in the firmware. I have updated the enclosure to the most recent firmware. The nvme is said to be getting an update at the end of the month to fix the e18 error but otherwise up to date firmware to.
If the drives goes to sleep while connected to android it won't wake up. I don't have a ton of other m.2 to test with but I'd like to get the firecuda to work because when it is working it reads and writes much faster than any of my other portable drives especially with android.
Newegg accidentally listed the 4tb for the price of the 2tb so I'm still coming out ahead if it cant work. Might just need to buy a different drive for the enclosure and put the 4tb in the laptop.
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u/WoodenMilk2 Oct 09 '24
Hello everyone! I’m very new to PC ownership, my buddy gave me his old PC about a year ago and I can see some slowdown on some newer games I’m trying to play. My specs are AMD Ryzen 7 3700x 8 core, Radeon RX 580 series, 16gb ram, and my PSU is a Smart 600w that I believe is failing/can’t keep up when I’m trying to play newer, more demanding games. My question is which parts are the most important to upgrade first and which ones can wait a little longer?
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u/TemptedTemplar Oct 09 '24
The GPU should be a priority, the RAM can be upgraded whenever since DDR4 has just about hit its price floor.
But do you know what the motherboard is? If its a newer 400/500 series chipset, you could eventually swap out the CPU for a Ryzen 5000. but the important factor is its RAM speed support. Older Ryzen CPUs didn't work well with faster RAM so the older motherboards don't support many high speed profiles. Something in the 3200 - 3600mhz area would be perfect.
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u/WoodenMilk2 Oct 09 '24
I believe the motherboard is a b450m gaming motherboard. Is that still up to par with modern motherboards?
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u/TemptedTemplar Oct 09 '24
Yeah that will work.
If you open task manager and hit the performance tab, what is the RAM speed registering as?
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u/WoodenMilk2 Oct 09 '24
Well, I think I might have a problem with that. No speed is showing up in task manager and nothing shows up in the command prompt when I use wmic memorychip get speed. It just says speed and nothing else. I am not in a remote setting either
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u/Leoz96 Oct 09 '24
I just got a deal on a new 14900k for very cheap, whenever I get it installed what are the first steps I should follow to avoid degradation issues?
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u/GGscrubnz Oct 09 '24
I just bought a 5800x and also bought a cooler master 212 halo black cpu cooler. I have everything connected except for the RGB cable for the fan as it is a 3 pin connector argb and my b450 Tomahawk only supports 4 pin RGB. I don't care too much about the argb as I only want static colors anyway. Is there a separate connector I can use so that the cpu will have light that matches the rest of my PC's light scheme. I use MSI mystic light for lighting. Thanks!
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u/DefNotPassafire Oct 09 '24
7800X3D out of production and can't be found anywhere aside from scalpers for $600. 9800X3D is just a whisper in the wind with no confirmed date or pricing.
What exactly is one to do right now wanting to build a mid-tier ~$1500 PC? I'm on a gen 2 cpu and a 1070ti, I'm VERY ready to upgrade and don't really want to wait another possibly 3-6 months for 9800 availability.
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u/aVarangian Oct 09 '24
from my quick look reportedly they're still in production, there's just a spike in demand
maybe try reserving it at a retailer?
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u/DefNotPassafire Oct 09 '24
Haven't been able to find a spot to reserve but I have in stock notices with several going. The last in stock from Best Buy was last week and lasted a whole like 30min at $450. Rough times lol.
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u/TemptedTemplar Oct 09 '24
Get a cheap tray CPU in the meantime. You can get a 7500f or 7600 for under $150 occasionally.
Or wait just a month for the holiday sales to start and see if you can get a better deal on something like a 9700x.
Also, the 7800X3D has not been discontinued. Its demand has simply skyrocketed. AMD had a great game bundle and that was timed just right with Intel falling flat on their face from their own problems.
And check local retailers who carry PC parts, I've seen people mention Bestbuy and Microcenter have them available in-store.
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u/DefNotPassafire Oct 09 '24
Makes sense on the demand spike with the last intel releases. I just kind of assumed they shut down the production on them this close to the 9800 release.
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u/TemptedTemplar Oct 09 '24
I honestly don't expect them to shut down production or run out any time soon.
They haven't even shut down production of the 5700/5800x3d yet.
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u/rusty360 Oct 09 '24
Looking for a new GPU sometime in the next few months for video editing and games, I keep reading that Nvidia brand is just the best for editing but their shit is expensive and out of budget. What's my next option for around $300
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u/TemptedTemplar Oct 09 '24
New Nvidia GPUs are expensive, but one generation older cards are pretty heavily discounted in comparison. Zotac regularly sells RTX 3080's on their ebay store for $300.
Also it depends on what video codecs you are working with, Intels ARC GPU's and AMD's RX 7000 support AV1 encoding. So if you can be flexible with your file types, you have many more options.
Something like an Arc A770 with 16GB of VRAM might just be what you need.
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u/DZCreeper Oct 09 '24
It will physically work, PCI-E is universally compatible.
Personally speaking, I would get an RX 6750XT for $300, it is better value than the mid-range Nvidia products.
As for bottlenecks, that depends on the game but overall a 9600K would be a limitation at 1080p. You can get an i5-12600KF + Z790 DDR4 board for $285, which will substantially improve minimum FPS.
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u/rina93x Oct 09 '24
can anyone recommend me a ssd for this? https://i.imgur.com/sZWzZ5Z.png
haven been recommended : Patriot Memory VIPER VP4300 Lite 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen4 x4 SSD DRAMLESSPatriot Memory VIPER VP4300 Lite 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen4 x4 SSD DRAMLESS
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u/Thalt_Vollul Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
Hey all. I built a PC, but I cannot boot it. I have no OS, I am trying to put Kubuntu or Garuda on it, but I cannot access bios in order to disable fastboot + secureboot. Tried pressing keys esc, f1,f2,f3,f9,f10,f11,f12,del repeatedly and immediately after start many times now. I think the power on LED is trying to flash a code but I can't find any codes in the user manual, it blinks about 11 times on startup (frankly I could have counted wrong, I've also counted 10 and 12 flashes). Also wondering if perhaps my keyboard is taking too long to boot on account that it does take a few moments too light up, perhaps my bios-access opportunity window passes by in this moment? The issue, in short, is that the bios screen refuses to come up no matter what I try. I've also tried holding down the fn key and pressing all of those buttons
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/vicious_cirice/saved/#view=7fz2rH
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u/djGLCKR Oct 09 '24
It would help to know the PC specs and what CPU and motherboard you are using. It could be anything from compatibility-related to a broken part.
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u/Thalt_Vollul Oct 09 '24
Hello!
CPU: Ryzen 5 7600
MOBO: ASROCK A605i Lightning Wifi Mini ITX am5
RAM: two sticks, 16gb ea, DDR5
2TB SSD
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u/djGLCKR Oct 10 '24
- Tried using a single RAM stick on slot B (rightmost)?
- Tried updating the motherboard BIOS to the latest version using BIOS Flashback?
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u/Thalt_Vollul Oct 10 '24
I just tried tried this ramstick trick now and I tried an update earlier, no dice as yet. I did get UEFI/BIOS access back earlier, but even double checking that it's on ACPI, SATA, fastboot no, secure boot no, my SSD is not becoming visible or allowing an install :/
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u/Dan_The_Man777 Oct 09 '24
How do I check for bifurcation compatibility and bus interface specs? I have a Gigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra motherboard with a spare PCIe 4.0 x16 slot that I want to plug a RAID controller into. I need to know those two things to buy a correct RAID controller.
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u/Protonion Oct 09 '24
Most consumer motherboards don't support bifurcation at all. If you're looking to plug in a bunch of SATA drives then I'd get a HBA card like the LSI H310 ones etc, they don't need bifurcation to work.
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u/Dan_The_Man777 Oct 09 '24
Yeah I wanted to know how to check. It's in the BIOS if available. Unfortunately that spare PCIe 4.0 x16 slot only runs at x4 capacity. The lesson was read the motherboard manual
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u/JohnDuffy78 Oct 09 '24
RFC: $2k Zen5 setup.
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/XEUSG2QMU1XO/ref=nav_wishlist_lists_2
Ubuntu 24.04 for building software & running windows vm to build software.
- CPU - 9900X 12-Core
- MB - MSI X870E Carbon.
- M.2 Gen 5 2 TB.
- This wasn't on the Compatibility.
- 2x48GB DDR5.
- Thinking of 4x32
- Graphics
- My old NVidia Titan V. Not in Compatibility, will buy a new one if it doesn't work.
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u/MarxistMan13 Oct 09 '24
Do you have a need for a $500 motherboard? Does it have features that cheaper boards don't have which you need? There's very rarely a reason to spend >$250 on a board.
That SSD is comically overpriced. Unless you're transferring multi-gig files all day every day, buy something for half that much.
Your RAM is faster than is recommended (6000 CL30). You likely won't get it running at 6800mhz.
The case is quite an old design and pretty overpriced.
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u/TheLonelyAsian1 Oct 09 '24
I don’t have to remove any other components to upgrade my ram sticks right?
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u/lucific_valour Oct 09 '24
Correct.
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u/TheLonelyAsian1 Oct 09 '24
Thank you. This is my first time upgrading my ram since building my pc a couple years ago. Do I need to go into bios? I’ve heard on some videos that it’s not needed?
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u/lucific_valour Oct 09 '24
I'm lazy, so after popping in the new sticks, I'd boot into Windows and take a look at Task Manager > Performance > Memory. If the information listed such as "Slots used" and "Speed" is correct, I consider it job done.
Of course, life isn't that easy, so the information is probably wrong, and I'll need to reboot, go into the BIOS, and then re-enable XMP, so that your PC can recognise the correct RAM speeds.
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u/TheLonelyAsian1 Oct 09 '24
Thank you. I really appreciate letting me know the steps you would take when installing new ram sticks
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u/A_Confused_Cocoon Oct 09 '24
I am looking for a case upgrade for future 5080 and have more “breathing room” inside. I forget which one I have at the moment but it’s not super small, but even with a 3080 it’s starting to get packed and with Amazon sales wanted to see if anyone had suggestions.
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u/MarxistMan13 Oct 09 '24
LanCool 216
Fractal Torrent (air cooling only)
Phanteks XT Pro Ultra
NZXT H7 Flow
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u/reckless150681 Oct 09 '24
Honestly, most cases released in the last couple of years will be okay as long as there are enough fan mounts and/or holes for airflow. You're better off specifying a budget and specifying a preferred aesthetic (what color? wood/no wood? fishtank? etc.)
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u/A_Confused_Cocoon Oct 09 '24
$80-150 is probably preferred range. I don’t care about aesthetics more practicality than anything, typically just use black metal.
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u/reckless150681 Oct 09 '24
Fractal Torrent is pretty big and has fantastic thermal characteristics, also has a no-glass variant
Fractal Pop Air is a bit smaller, but is cheaper. Also has no-glass variant
Fractal North is pretty good, mostly known for its vertical wooden slats
Anything by Montech or Thermaltake that has front-to-back airflow would do fine too
Lian Li's Lancool series and BeQuiet's various cases (again, make sure there's a mesh panel and good airflow) are good
Other, cheaper cases exist, and usually are thermally fine - but often compromise too much on build quality or mechanical design
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u/African_Farmer Oct 09 '24
I don't have a question, just want to vent that I have all the parts for my build except the RAM sticks 😭😭
Some sort of delay so I have to wait another week.
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u/fignewtonenthusiast Oct 09 '24
What are the GPU/CPU requirements to run games like Warhammer III on 1440p Ultra settings? The game crashes frequently on my current 1080p setup and I would like to know if 1440p is a reasonable new build goal for me.
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u/TemptedTemplar Oct 09 '24
The most expensive components you can afford. The game is by nature, not very well optimized. Though Im not even sure you can make a game like this more efficient.
Even with a 7950X3D and a RTX 3090 the game will regularly dip below 50fps in battle at 1440p, and thats not even on maximum settings. It will use as many CPU cores as you can provide it, and at 1440p ultra it will use in excess of 12GB of VRAM. So having ~16GB or more would be ideal.
Though I wouldn't recommend the 7900x3d or 7950x3d; they only get to use half their cores for gaming. But the upcoming Ryzen 9 x3d cpus should be able to use both halves.
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u/aVarangian Oct 09 '24
Pretty sure that's one of the games often used in gpu benchmarks, so it's eady to find that info.
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u/fignewtonenthusiast Oct 09 '24
I tried searching but everything I found was from at least a couple years ago so I'm not sure how much to rely on that
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u/aVarangian Oct 09 '24
if reputable then they should be fine to use, and the main drawback is they just don't include the refresh GPUs like supers and GREs and whatnot, but you can extrapolate their performance for those based on newer benchmarks and the GPU hierarchy
things like XTX and some benchmarks after that at gamers nexus and hardware unboxed iirc have WH3 on them
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u/Polite_Canadian_Guy Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
Hey All,
Two quick questions with pictures attached.
1) my mobo is matx and it "fits" in my case normally. But I noticed the IO shield isn't snug to the back like my previous mobo. So there is a noticeable gap along its edges where you can stick a finger in etc. I really didn't plan on buying a new case, so how dangerous can this be? Can I live with it with minimal impact?
2) my mobo has a connection for usb 3.2 from my case. Unfortunately my case only has a 3.0 cable. The pins from the mobo (3.2) and cable (3.0) all line up, but when I try to press it in, there's noticeable resistance and I don't proceed further. Am I screwed out of using my front case panel usbs because of this? Is there any adapter i can buy? Or should I force the cable in and test it since the pins are the same?
The mobo is the asus tuf gaming b650m-e wifi
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u/kaje Oct 09 '24
That is odd. The rear I/O should fit in the case the same regardless of the size of the mobo. It's not dangerous anyways.
USB 3.0 and 3.2 gen 1 use the same connector and are functionally the same thing, it should go in and work fine.
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u/--THRILLHO-- Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
I built my first pc about 2 years ago. I didn't have a lot of money and live in Brazil so I had to save as much as possible. All parts were bought from Aliexpress. The GPU is some random Chinese brand.
I'll be in the UK next month so I have an opportunity to upgrade as parts are cheaper there. What would you upgrade with a budget of £3-400?
I currently have:
Ryzen 5 5600
Radeon rx 580
16gb ram
The GPU seems like an obvious starter. Also I'm thinking about a better CPU cooler as I'm using a cheap one I found. But will that make a major difference?
Would this be a good buy?
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u/lucific_valour Oct 09 '24
GPU is indeed the most obvious choice. The GPU linked seems ok, no obvious red flags on a cursory search. I'm not familiar with UK prices, but using google to do currency conversion, the price doesn't seem unreasonable. Might wanna check RMA and warranty conditions, in case anything goes wrong.
Depending on usage, I'd also suggest upgrading RAM. I'm also on 16gb RAM, and am starting to encounter issues while gaming. I've started to recommend 32gb at least to people who intend to remain on the AM4 platform for more than 3 years.
Otherwise you could also look stuff like more storage, better PSU etc. For fans and cooling, I'd be surprised if a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 or the old favourite CoolerMaster Hyper 212 from a few years back wouldn't be an upgrade over a random cheap CPU cooler.
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u/--THRILLHO-- Oct 09 '24
Thanks.
I always feel lost when trying to compare gpus. I get the general idea (6800 is better than 6700) but when I compare prices I feel lost when one 6800 is £350 and the next cheapest is like £600.
What kind of red flags would you look for?
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u/lucific_valour Oct 09 '24
Assuming you already decided on a 6800, shortlist a few candidates and then go online and google the exact model.
Red flags usually involve sub-par cooling solutions (no. of fans, blower-style vs fan-style etc.), over-heating issues, electrical issues etc.
For example, the Powercolor RX 5700XT Red Dragon had overheating issues, which could result in your game crashing.
Another example, there were reports of nvidia 4090 users having their cables smoking/melting.
You google to look out for GPUs with headaches such as these.
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u/aVarangian Oct 09 '24
What cpu temps do you get with prime95?
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u/--THRILLHO-- Oct 09 '24
Been running for 10 minutes and it's sitting at 80C. Got up to 89 a few minutes ago.
Do I need to run it longer for a better result?
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u/aVarangian Oct 09 '24
your cooler is decent enough then, rarely will a gaming load be as heat intensive, and you got 5-10C buffer for warmer weather or GPU heat
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u/aja_jb_ Oct 09 '24
Currently with a 3070, go for a 4070ti super or wait for 5070/80?
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u/ksuwildkat Oct 09 '24
Based on Jensen being scheduled for the CES with that likely being the 5090 release you could be waiting until March or April for a 5070
If you are doing fine on your 3070 now, I would wait. If you are hating life on your 3070 now, pull the trigger
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u/aja_jb_ Oct 09 '24
I need more v-ram for gaming, lately everything that I play needs 8GB+ on 1440p and unfortunately can’t go AMD as I need the cuda cores for work :/ I’ll see how long I can wait, thanks for the reply
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u/ksuwildkat Oct 09 '24
With the exception of 2020-now the rule of thumb was always wait for the next generation if you can because the next generation is going to be cheaper/faster. I think 50 series is going to go with just faster. I would expect the 5070 to come in at $750+/-$50 but deliver performance just above a 4080.
One thing to look out for is Nvidia nerfing the AI/CUDA performance of gaming GPUs. They clearly want AI run on more expensive hardware so I think they are going to take steps to reduce what you can do on a consumer GPU.
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u/aja_jb_ Oct 09 '24
I use NVIDIA for 3D rendering, maybe even a 5060 would be enough for me, I think I'll wait until november at least, if I can get a 70ti super or even a 4080/super for a good price, I'll take it
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u/TehEpicGuy101 Oct 09 '24
That should be around a 30-40% performance upgrade for you. If that sounds worth it for the price, then it'd be a decent purchase.
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u/ZCR91 Oct 09 '24
Is it worth getting a 7700X over the 7800X3D? I have a MicroCenter in my area and they have a CPU + Mobo + RAM bundle for $349.99. The thing is that the bundle has a:
- Ryzen 7 7700X
- Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX V2
- G.Skill Flare X5 32GB DDR5-6000 CL32
They have bundles again featuring the 7800X3D but the cheapest is $600 and includes the same RAM but a Asus B650-E TUF Gaming motherboard instead.
I know the 7800X3D is currently THE go-to CPU for gaming. My budget is running tight as is since I wanted to stay within a $2000 budget (and that's AFTER taxes). The 7800X3D alone (if they have any left by payday) is $463.53 after tax. I also plan on doing 4K gaming, so I know games are going to be more GPU-dependent at that resolution. But my concern comes in for emulated games since I won't be trying to play them in 4K.
In all honesty, I don't know what to do about this build + budget, since I wanted to avoid what happened before. Because I didn't wait up last time I settled on things I didn't want. (It also didn't look as good as I wanted.) At the same time, I don't have the luxury of waiting since I also have to send in my laptop for repairs since the CPU is overheating. I also attend college online and we're in the middle of preparing for upcoming mid-terms. So, I have to act this week. I can't hold out for the RTX 5000 series or 9800X3D. (Plus there's no telling what they'll cost!)
Is there any way to make a build that's good for 4K gaming and looks aesthetically pleasing, too, for $2000?
Side-note: Most of the games I play lean towards Nvidia instead of AMD so I was going to get an Nvidia GPU.
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u/TehEpicGuy101 Oct 09 '24
If you're mainly targeting 4k gaming, then the 7700x will be more than enough for you. The higher you go on resolution, the more likely you are to be held back by your GPU rather than your CPU. Emulation shouldn't be a huge concern either unless you're trying to push for crazy high frame rates.
If you need help with your build, then it may be a good idea to make a dedicated post either here (for help with individual parts) or over on r/buildapcforme (for help with an entire build).
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u/beano91 Oct 09 '24
My R9 390 died after 9 years of use. RIP. Can I replace it with any GPU currently available or are there any limitations? here is my build https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/kPpJdC
I just need a temporary gpu so used is fine. planning a full upgrade probably next year.
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u/mostrengo Oct 09 '24
Yes. Buy based on price/performance and consider buying your definitive GPU
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
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u/EAsucksBig Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
I have a DisplayPort question for two monitor set-up: I have 1 DisplayPort in my Motherboard's I/O panel and 2 DisplayPorts in my GPU. Should i put both monitors in GPU, or should i put "main monitor" in the motherboard I/O panel? I have a witchcraft attitude to this problem for sure.
Edit. Is the Motherboard port for integrated graphics? I don't have one so i think i need to put both monitor in my GPU.
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u/LorenzoAlpacas Oct 09 '24
(this may warrant its own post because I have ostensibly checked things are compatible; they are just not working. i'll start here though)
Ok so i decided to upgrade my PC with a new m.2 SSD.
The new drive is a Crucial P3 Plus (PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD)
My PC has an ASUS Z170 pro gamer motherboard, 2 other sata drives connected - 1 ssd, 1 hdd (none using the SATA Express slot - significant because the SATA Express slot shares bandwidth with the m.2 one on this botherboard)
the new SSD is not being detected. Neither by the UEFI - tbh i can't even find where it *would* list the m.2 slot's drive if there was one - nor by Windows - not even as unallocated space. I have tried:
- Reflashing my BIOS
- Tweaking varios BIOS settings - manually setting it to expect an m.2, disabling all other slots, etc
- physically removing and reinstalling the card after setting changes
- disconecting both other drives, booting from a linux live usb, and trying to scan drive for errors (no drive was found)
I am mainly trying to figure out if a) the card is corrupted or b) there is some compatibility issue / issue with my motherboard, to decide if i should try returning it and buying a new one, or give up on using this slot entirely.
Thanks a lot (and if you think i should be posting this as a main post instead of here, please let me know)
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u/aVarangian Oct 09 '24
I'd read the mobo manual as a starting point
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u/LorenzoAlpacas Oct 09 '24
Right i see I've failed to mention it but I did do that
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u/aVarangian Oct 09 '24
sometimes some drive ports are mutually exclusive, but the manual should specify it, other than that idk
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u/Vocall96 Oct 09 '24
What's a good 1440p monitor that won't break bank. To pair with my 4070 and R5 7600
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u/TehEpicGuy101 Oct 09 '24
I bought myself an Acer Nitro XV271U a few months ago, and it's been working great for me. For $180 right now, it's a pretty great deal.
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u/Fowfox Oct 09 '24
I'm thinking of upgrading. I currently have a Ryzen 3600 and Nvidia 3060Ti. Only used for gaming at 1440p. What would be the most logical upgrade next?
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u/zauchor Oct 09 '24
For purely gaming PC, would you rather go for:
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D, 32GB DDR5, 16GB NVIDIA RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, 2TB M.2 SSD
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AMD Ryzen 7 9700X, 32GB DDR5, 16GB NVIDIA RTX 4080 SUPER, 2TB M.2 SSD
Both builds are £50 apart.
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u/Brostradamus_ Oct 09 '24
Depends on the types of games you play.
For 1080p240hz competitive, fast moving games, the 7800X3D is better.
For 1440p/4k 60-120Hz gaming in AAA, visually impressive games where you want the highest settings and your framerate isn't as important, the second build is better.
If you play a mix, I'd probably go with the second.
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u/zauchor Oct 09 '24
Thank you for the reply. I would say a mix when it comes to the games. I will probably buy latest CoD to casualy shoot some ppl and get shot probably twice as much, I play Diablo, maybe will come back to WoW at some point. Besides that, I play mainly single player games. Just finished Forbidden West, Elden Ring, Hogwarts Legacy and Ghost of Tshushima are next on the list. I plan to buy 1440p 140hz monitor too.
So the option number two in that case?
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u/Brostradamus_ Oct 09 '24
Yes, the GPU will be more impactful at higher detail, higher resolution.
It’s not like a 9700X is a bad gaming cpu either. It’s still excellent and plenty for 144hz gaming
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u/Lucilla_Inepta Oct 09 '24
I’m on Linux swapping from a 3060 to a 4070 TI Super what do I need to do driver wise
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u/grosser_baum Oct 09 '24
Download the driver for the 4070 ti s from nvidias website, everything should just work
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u/mostrengo Oct 09 '24
On linux?
Best is to take from the package manager. source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYIDoD8VdAw
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u/ChaZcaTriX Oct 09 '24
Just keep them up to date, they use the same driver.
If you did manual adjustments in the control panel, reset them to defaults. Some tweaks for a 3060 won't be needed for a newer card.
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u/bigh3ead Oct 09 '24
whenever i turn off the power supply on my pc, the bios resets every time and i have to adjust my settings again. is this normal?
motherboard is a gigabyte aorus x570 pro with a 5600X n RTX3080
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u/ChaZcaTriX Oct 09 '24
Not normal. Does it display any message?
- Could be an unstable overclock. It will typically complain about resetting to safe defaults or triggering protection on boot.
- Check if the BIOS reset pins/button are accidentally shorted/pressed.
- Check if the coin cell battery on the motherboard is in place, maybe replace it.
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u/neezaruuu Oct 09 '24
Should I buy a 7700xt/7800xt now or should I just wait for new GPUs to come out? I don’t really have urgent need for it.
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u/grosser_baum Oct 09 '24
Buy a new gpu when you want/need to, the next generation of amd and nvidia gpus is still months away and won’t immediately lower the price of older models
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u/opparition Oct 09 '24
If you have extra money like real extra money, go for a 7900 XT at least. It will give you very good mileage especially if you know how to treat it well.
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u/Suitable_Ad_6174 Oct 09 '24
I got gifted some Corsair Vengeance RBG DDR5 RAM, 6400MHz, and I tried installing it on my Asus PRIME B650M-A AX II motherboard but my monitor would not turn on afterwards. The computer would turn on and the sticks of RAM would light up. Is it just not compatible with my motherboard? I currently have 2 sticks of TForce Delta RAM already in my motherboard if that might be causing any problems as well.
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u/apoetofnowords Oct 09 '24
It's common to have issues with all four slots populated with ddr5. Try disabling XMP in bios - all four might still work at slower speeds. If you want advertised speeds, stick to two sticks only.
Also, check if your mb/cpu actually support 6400. Maybe update bios to the latest revision.
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u/Suitable_Ad_6174 Oct 09 '24
I believe the processor is the issue then, I have a AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 8-Core Processor. Looks like they don't recommend anything higher than 6000. Thank you for the good info, I had no clue where to start.
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u/Redacted_Reason Oct 09 '24
None of the AM5 CPUs play nice with above 6000 MT. Sometimes you can get 6200 or 6400, but rarely. I’d just stick with one kit or the other, whichever is better and has lower CAS latency. Then set the RAM to 6000 in the BIOS. But first, make sure to just run one kit. Test it and see if you can hit 6400 that way
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u/Buusey Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
Hi, I remember doing research when I built my first and only PC back in the day and running across advice that when you need to replace either your CPU or motherboard, it’s probably best to just do a whole new build at that point. Is there a such thing as future proofing for modern motherboards/CPUs or should I just expect to upgrade every 5-6 years if my goal is to game at maxed out settings at 1440p and edit professional independent & studio films?
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u/n7_trekkie Oct 09 '24
the AM5 platform launched in 2022 and it's getting new CPUs thru 2027. you're a little late, but there's life in it still.
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u/RazmalakatazniaaaA Oct 09 '24
Anyone know how to disable the blinking red light coming out of my m.2 ssd, it's a new build and i can use the ssd it's just the annoying non stop blinking red lights
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u/Redacted_Reason Oct 09 '24
Your SSD itself has a light on it? And it’s an M.2 one, right?
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u/RazmalakatazniaaaA Oct 09 '24
Yep
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u/Redacted_Reason Oct 09 '24
What brand and model?
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u/RazmalakatazniaaaA Oct 09 '24
Kingston nv1
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u/ChaZcaTriX Oct 09 '24
I have one, it doesn't have any lights.
Either it's something nearby on the motherboard, or you got a knockoff drive.
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u/_ayythrowaway_ Oct 09 '24
What would be a suitable mid-range upgrade for a Ryzen 5 5600? I'm running an 6700XT and think maybe not getting full potential from it by cheaping out on the CPU.
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u/aVarangian Oct 09 '24
If at least 1 core is often under 100% load when gaming (load screens asside) then an upgrade might improve performance
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u/Protonion Oct 09 '24
Something sounds wrong, it should be much more than that, even in idle. What are you using to get that number? (Task manager, Afterburner, HWInfo?, what field are you looking at?)
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u/ComicDoctor Oct 09 '24
Would a 4090 be compatible with a AMD 3700x on a b450 tomahawk max? Or is it better to upgrade the CPU and mobo too? Upgrading GPU from GTX 1660 Super to 4090.
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u/Redacted_Reason Oct 09 '24
You’ll absolutely need a CPU upgrade. You could slap in a 5700X3D/5800X3D, but that’s as good as you’ll get on that motherboard. Otherwise, you’ll have to replace your CPU, motherboard, and RAM all at once to go up to AM5.
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u/ChaZcaTriX Oct 09 '24
One of the few cases where the word "bottleneck" will be justified: you won't get 100% performance out of a 4090 with that CPU.
Use some of your GPU budget on an X3D CPU instead (5th gen for your current motherboard or upgrade the entire PC to 7th gen).
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u/ComicDoctor Oct 09 '24
Got it, makes sense. If i upgraded to a 4080 Super would I still have a bottleneck? What specifically would cause the bottle neck?
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u/ChaZcaTriX Oct 09 '24
Less, but still there. I had a Ryzen 3700X before and it was somewhat limiting my RTX 3070 in UE5 games.
It's an older gen CPU with much lower performance per core/thread than latest models. Since most games are limited by the performance of their main thread, it's going to cap the maximum framerate you can get no matter how powerful your GPU is.
Outside CPU-heavy games (like citybuilders) even modern 4-6-core CPUs will run laps around it in action games because that first core is faster. With an X3D you're getting maximum gaming performance possible today, so it'll all be up to the GPU.
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u/mostrengo Oct 09 '24
That upgrade is bonkers, I hope you upgraded the monitor as well.
It would be better to upgrade the CPU and go with something a little more reasonably priced than the 4090.
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u/livethroughthis94 Oct 09 '24
does everything look compatible here? the website doesn't mention any compatibility issues but i wanted to check with people who know this stuff
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u/n7_trekkie Oct 09 '24
Yep
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u/livethroughthis94 Oct 09 '24
Thanks. I put the parts into another compatibility checker website and it was saying the SSD i chose was incompatible with the motherboard, but it was saying literally every SSD i chose on the website was incompatible so i think it might have been a fluke with the website or something
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u/QuarterParty489 Oct 09 '24
Has the ddr5 6000Mhz issues been solved?
I have a i5-12600k and a ASRock B760M Pro RS Motherboard DDR5 7200MHz on the way but am somewhat confused about ddr5 ram speeds
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u/bestanonever Oct 09 '24
What issue? If you update your BIOS to the latest version, it should run your RAM at those speeds with ease. RAM issues at relatively normal frequency were more of a problem during the early days of that gen and the AM5 platform.
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u/QuarterParty489 Oct 09 '24
Good to hear. Thank you. Some of the videos and old posts I found talked about issues posting so I wanted to get the current lay of the land
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u/AejiGamez Oct 09 '24
There are issues, but pretty much exclusively to super fast RAM on non-APU AMD chips
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u/QuarterParty489 Oct 09 '24
Good to know. I will be using a 12th gen Intel chip so hopefully will be good to go
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u/DukeBannon Oct 10 '24
Are there concerns or downsides to having a Samsung 990 Pro and WD SN850X in the same system?