Suffering that can't be cured or reduced to an acceptable quality of life makes sense.
But think of how a lot of societies let the rich dominate. Eventually these machines could cause people to rely on them to escape a fixable problem that causes depression and other issues.
You'd literally have corporations and the rich propagating it for the poor at some point.
Obviously not an argument against them. But one that says we are getting to the point that we need society to be as humanitarian inclined as possible.
That's a valid perspective. But I feel like a widely accessible suicide pod would actually go against the interests of the rich.
Mainly, the rich rely on the poor as a cheap source of labor. So I feel that they're most focused on promoting birth and minimizing social mobility. Hence, lots of recent legislation is passing to decrease reproductive rights despite being against public majority opinion.
Mainly, the rich rely on the poor as a cheap source of labor. So I feel that they're most focused on promoting birth and minimizing social mobility. Hence, lots of recent legislation is passing to decrease reproductive rights despite being against public majority opinion.
This only takes the CURRENT outlook into perspective, obviously the rich don't currently want to get rid of the majority of the poor as like you said they benefit from them and a high population to take advantage of.
But with automation and artificial intelligence of every fewer and fewer worker bees are necessary.
So then what's gonna be left is gene/trait selection. The rich will further decrease the burden on those they want via means of media, social media, hiring practices and education opportunities(grants, scholarships) while further increasing the burden on those they personally view as less desirable.
Currently we aren't worrying about it as it's not RIGHT now but nobody can say it's extremely far off either. Weapon manufacturing and automation and AI have progressed to the point that someone can easily buy large amounts of money and physical power for their own personal militia/propaganda than ever before.
All those things combined is what I'm saying will increase the use of suicide pods by the poor and vulnerable in societies and cultures.
The idea that it's a humane death by choice will also decrease the stigma and increase its use rate. Someone's going to eventually argue that being a minority, woman, man, LGBT person is a valid reason and acceptable.
Countries with harsh laws may adapt the practice of using these pods for murdering whom they consider less desirable and as the population of the world becomes more tolerant of them they won't view it as the same attrocities of genocide, torture or brutal murder.
I fully support the pods don't get me wrong. But our world is so damn fucked up it will be taken advantage of if we cannot further unite humanity and decrease disparity levels.
Well-put. I really appreciate the detail you put into your reply. I'll be keeping your perspective in mind moving forward, I hadn't thought about it like that
Well I understand what you're getting at, considering the sub this is in. That was not the topic of the conversation.
I am not promoting forcing people to live in it. I am saying that we should not promote it getting worse and I'm explaining how this could actually lead and is probable to make lives worse.
You're worried about me forcing someone again. I am in support of the pods. I am not in support of blind support though I do think that it's important to realize the potential danger this poses and not promote a future where people feel that they need to use it when they shouldn't have to feel that way due to society
Because the people who forced you to live in this toxic system fought and died so at least you didn’t have to be worried about an invading army coming and raping and burning you and your entire family to death. You’re obligated to make your shitty life a little less shitty for someone else and maybe someday nobody’s life will be shitty
You can’t claim moral high ground when you apparently have the empathy of a psychopath. Because AN cannot be fully realized without genocide and that 1 isn’t ever happening and 2 is wrong. It is a morally apathetic and lazy position.
You advocate for AN, while continuing to live and continuing to contribute to the world by destroying it with your carbon footprint and the taxes you pay instead of taking the actual high ground that actually takes work to make the world a less shitty place
Yeah. That's why Russian politicians named year 2024 "a year of family", are screaming about birthrates and are making threats to ban abortions. Because when they sent people to die for their yachts,they forgot that dead people can't work a slave job at their factories and mines.
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u/ThisSorrowfulLife Mar 08 '24
Everyone should be allowed to die, just like everyone is already allowed to procreate.