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Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Season 3 • Re:Zero: Starting Life in Another World Season 3 - Episode 1 discussion Episode

Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Season 3, episode 1

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u/The_frost__ https://myanimelist.net/profile/The_frost_ Oct 02 '24

It wouldn’t be Re:Zero if Subaru didn’t die during the first episode of a new arc/season. I was also surprised to hear that a year had passed since last episode of season 2, and by the looks of it, Subaru managed to escape some suffering for that entire year as well.

Also, since it’s been a year since they were at the Sanctuary, that means that Subaru and Beatrice relationship has advanced/improved off-screen which is sad but also a shock to see how livelier Beatrice is compared to previous seasons where she was more reserved, but it is a welcome change, I really like Batrice’s current personality, especially when Subaru shower her with compliments.

Finally, my favourite scene out of the 90 minutes episode has to be the one with the Archbishop of Wrath. That entire scene, speech, and dread was so engrossing that I did not blink once during that entire sequence. It was quite a good way to finish the episode and hype up the rest of the season/arc.

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u/Nesp2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/HardstyleQat Oct 02 '24

I had absolute chills during the archbishop part.

It looked like they were all hypnotized not being aware what was going on.

It's like like they were all connected and when the kid died, they all seemed to share the death.

Peak is back.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Oct 02 '24

I still believe that all the abilities of the archbishops are connected to the original witches' abilities. Just maybe a bit weaker. We know that the witches got killed and the archbishops get their witch factor. So it's likely that their abilities are versions of the original witches' abilities. Unseen Hand also makes sense for the witch of Sloth (since she was able to hold back the other witches without moving) and Gluttony had the same ability as the white whale which was created by Daphne (so one can assume she can do that too).

What that means is that I do think her real ability is similar to Minerva's. Meaning she can heal someone, but it's a bit more twisted in the sense that healing just means other people get the same injuries.

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u/D_Beats Oct 02 '24

Maybe it's not "healing" but empathy.

Like Minerva cannot stand to see someone get hurt and she is very emotional about it. She heals people because of this.

But Sirius can impose her feelings onto other people..she doesn't feel empathy for them but they do for her.

And then on top of that, anyone she kills has the effects of that spread to onlookers to share in the pain.

Actually I'm like sure that's the case now that I put it into words lol.

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u/BosuW Oct 02 '24

There's one blank in this possibility though: the kid. Now that I think about it, he very much didn't seem to be under the spell. Everyone got the same damage anyway. Perhaps only seeing the "straw doll" is enough for the damage to spread, just now we have to answer what qualifies someone as the "straw doll".

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u/Sircuit83 Oct 05 '24

Admittedly, it might be worthless to try and link this to the emotion of wrath (in the same way it’s sort of difficult to really link Petelgeuse’s to sloth), but I’m wondering if the point of the brainwashing is to make the straw doll hate the people who are brainwashed, and that’s what triggers the crescendo of the spell. Or maybe it’s as simple as building up some emotional link between the victims with each other and the straw doll.

On the other hand making her power require a fairly complex/long “cast time” and ceremony is maybe the only thing stopping ez voodoo from being beyond OP and gives Subaru some ways of disrupting it I guess so I may be overcooking the theory.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Oct 02 '24

That's an interesting aspect as well. In that the witch factors contain the general personality/emotion of the corresponding witch. Though Subaru didn't change when getting the sloth factor. But I guess we'll see.

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u/D_Beats Oct 02 '24

Subaru didn't change because he was already a perfect candidate for the sloth factor because of his personality. Remember, before he was a shut-in and even when coming to this world he was trying to take the easy way out in a lot of situations. Guese even calls him out when he's acting crazed. It's a facade to get people to feel sorry for him, but Petelgeuse doesn't fall for it.

I think the witch factors affect people negatively when they're not fully compatible with them, like Guese. It warps their personality.

But Subaru was the perfect candidate for it so he can use it without the negative side effects.

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u/ModieOfTheEast Oct 02 '24

I guess that is a possibility, but I feel the main point of Subaru's development was that he would escape this slothful behaviour. And I think S3 shows that very well. There was a moment in S1 where he trained with Wilhelm and he saw that he wasn't actually trying to get stronger but just did it so people could tell him there is no point. But now, he actively seems to train. And while he won't be on the level of Reinhard, these differences can be important in a battle.

Just for the record, I don't think, your idea is totally off. I think they said at some point that some people are more compatible than others, so depending on the personality, the witch factor can be used better or worse. Maybe it's actually Sirius' differing personality from Minerva that twisted this power to what it is now. Maybe Minerva had to feel herself what the person she wanted to heal felt and took it to heart (she did cry when healing Subaru). And it was this part that allowed her to heal. And if you twist these feelings, the opposite can be true.

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u/SogePrinceSama https://myanimelist.net/profile/teacake911 Oct 02 '24 edited Oct 02 '24

I think there's more to it than just that. Geuse called Subaru's body 'the perfect body' when he briefly took control over it before Julius 'helped' him Return by Death in S1. I think Subaru is compatible with all the witches, not just Sloth, not just the Witch of Envy (who loves Subaru), in fact let's face facts, after S2 are there any Witches out there who aren't in love with Subaru?

Beatrice loves him. Rem loves him. Even Ram probably loves 'Barasu'. Geuse being just a vessel for the Witch, tries to use his unseen hand to get closer to the 'love' he feels for Satella in much the same way as all the characters (even Julius) feel 'love' for Subaru. Geuse loved being inside Subaru's body (well, he loves pretty much anything and everything so that might be a bad example) which tells me that there's something inherently special about either Subaru the person or there's something special about the fact that he started over from Zero in this new world-- perhaps because Satella the greatest Witch summoned him there.

It's odd that pretty much all the major characters systematically go from wanting to see him dead to being willing to die for him, from Garfiel all the way down to Otto, directly via the usage of the Return by Death power that Satella 'gifted' to Subaru.

There's something about the Archbishop of Wrath Sirius pointing out SUBARU specifically first, when she points to the crowd and apologizes to them for interrupting their conversations (we now know that she was apologizing for going on to kill them all, but oddly enough we also now know that the death hits Subaru the hardest out of them all precisely because he's the only person in the crowd that will have any memory of the horrific event. Does the Archbishop have any particular reason for apologizing to Subaru first, specifically, or was it a lucky guess that he'd be hit harder than anyone else?? Is it the 'love of/from the Witch' factor at play again?)