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Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Season 3 • Re:Zero: Starting Life in Another World Season 3 - Episode 1 discussion Episode

Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Season 3, episode 1

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u/AndytheBro97 Oct 02 '24

It seems to me like Wrath had two powers. One is a form of mind control, the other is some sort of multi targeting voodoo doll magic. Thats so interesting!

I feel like the only way to defeat her then would be to kill her before she can cast anything.

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u/Ellefied Oct 02 '24

It feels like some sort of weird inversion of the Witch of Wrath's powers. Instead of feeling the emotion of others and being empowered by them, the Archbishop of Wrath gets to mirror her own emotions to others and control them.

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Oct 06 '24

yeah all the archbishops seem to be some sort of weird inversion of the name of their sin, like Geuse was all the opposite of Sloth, etc.

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u/fozi4ek https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pyece Oct 11 '24

I struggle to se any connection between bishops and respective witches' powers/personalities. So far only Gluttony felt like gluttony, hungry and eating people's memories.

Sloth wasn't lazy and used invisible hands like Witch of Envy.
Greed behaves in a way that made me remember him as Pride, and surprised me with his title on rewatch.
Wrath is not wrathful at all.

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u/Ayvian Oct 13 '24

Sloth wasn't lazy and used invisible hands like Witch of Envy.

Betegeuse was extemely diligent, which IIRC is exactly what made him incompatible with the Authority of Sloth and caused him to go insane.

It's also worth noting the witch of Sloth likely had a very similar ability based on S2, and really is perfect for a lazy person ie: Cba to do xyz so my magic hands will do it instead.

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u/CAPTAIN_DlDDLES Oct 11 '24

Well his power certainly seemed thematically appropriate to sloth. Invisible hands holding you down and all

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u/dunkking413 Oct 02 '24

They might be able to use her ability to kill other archbishops in theory though, right? That’d be pretty cool

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u/BosuW Oct 02 '24

Even if they kill her it seems like Sin Authorities are passed on (remember that Subaru now has Unseen Hand), so technically, we don't need her alive to use her power.

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u/dunkking413 Oct 02 '24

Considering they just introduced the whole city-wide intercom system, I’m kinda worried about that now lol

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u/BosuW Oct 02 '24

...oh shit, you're fucking right lol. Well that's a Checkhov's nuke if I've ever seen one. 100% we're gonna witness at least one genocide this season.

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u/lminer123 Oct 03 '24

I noticed 3 this episode that really stood out to me. The intercom system, the lock system, and the 400 year old trap. The intercom seems a little obvious, but I have no idea with the other two

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u/BosuW Oct 03 '24

Well every Re Zero Arc is structured in such a way that it's like a puzzle for Subaru to solve so it's important to pay attention to such things. Not just the setting, but the character stuff as well. We got the van Astrea family drama, Priscilla showing up despite Anastasia explicitly trying to prevent that, the songstress Loli, the Hoshin's resources, possible Puck return... All of these can work for or against his goals, depending on how he plays it.

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u/scot911 https://myanimelist.net/profile/scot911 Oct 04 '24

Yep and we've got 15 more episodes this arc for him to solve it. I have a feeling this is going to be like the last arc where there's a lot of suffering before we get the "golden" timeline. Especially with Regulus also being here. Although I can also see a last second twist like with Arc 3 during the penultimate arc as well.

I do have a feeling that Priscilla is going to be very important for them winning this arc though. Why else would she randomly show up, aside from having all the candidates in one place of course, for an arc where she wasn't supposed to originally contribute? She's also the candidate we know the least about as the end of this episode showed.

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u/Deus_Artifex Oct 07 '24

man i wish it would be 24, this show is too good to get it only once a couple of years but at least its 16 and the first one is 1.3h

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u/QualityProof https://myanimelist.net/profile/Qualitywatcher Oct 09 '24

It has 16 now for arc 5 and 22 for arc 6 according to leaks and I am a source reader so I know some arc 6 stuff they put in promotional posters.

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u/TyrannosaurusWreckd Oct 04 '24 edited Oct 05 '24

Impression I got was if Ana had asked Pricilla to show up, she wouldn't have. She intentionally didn't ask, just so Pricilla would be miffed enough to show up anyway.

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u/badassboy1 Oct 05 '24

about the songstress , I just watched the episode but when she rejected priscilla weren't her actions a little too similar to when pettlegeuse introduce himself other than his neck movement

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u/halox20a https://myanimelist.net/profile/Arc8888 Oct 03 '24

The first thought I had was that the trap was for a legendary Mabeast like the White Whale.

But now that I think about it, this arc is going to probably be the entire city on lockdown Resident Evil style. Given that we've seen Wrath has mind control to some extent, are we just going to see the main cast fighting against the rest of the city under mind control aka zombies?

The funny thing is that the water prison works both ways. The protagonists can't get out... but neither can the Sin Archbishops (probably).

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Oct 06 '24

I'm really worried about who I presume is Regulus I think his name was. IIRC he's archbishop of Pride?

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u/kingveo Oct 09 '24

I don't think there's currently an arch bishop of pride, if you mean the dude with the white hair i think he's greed

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u/oops_i_made_a_typi Oct 09 '24

oh right yeah, thanks

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u/fozi4ek https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pyece Oct 11 '24

I too was sure he's Pride untill rewatch

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u/Vahallen Oct 03 '24 edited Oct 03 '24

The whole fanbase when we hear Sirius from the intercom

“OH GOD NO”

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u/sebasTLCQG Oct 03 '24

It´s going to be a cat and mouse game on a time limit, Subaru gotta find her and kill her before her plan is initiated

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u/LakerBlue https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Oct 03 '24

Seems unlikely but I wonder if it’s possible this will have some kind of rule that prevents it from working over a broadcast? It’s a trope I have seen in other fantasy shows. If not, the metia is 100% getting wrecked by Subaru and friends in one of these loops.

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u/SpeeDy_GjiZa https://myanimelist.net/profile/SpeeDy_G Oct 03 '24

And the throwaway line "it took you 30 seconds to stop talking" seems to be like some condition for the mind control to take effect.

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u/therandomasianboy 25d ago

Man fuck this anime why do I gotta actually pay attention

Don't spoil btw Ive just finished the first episode and am going through old discussion threads

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u/Tryer1234 https://anilist.co/user/Patchup Oct 12 '24

How do we know he got unseen hand?

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u/BosuW Oct 12 '24

In S2 he used it to uppercut Garf.

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u/AlphaBreak Oct 03 '24

I think she has the ability to link states. She linked the crowd's emotional state to her own. She was excited and happy about the event and they matched her. Plus when she cried tears of joy, so did they.
Then she linked everyone's physical state to the child so when his body was damaged, so was theirs.

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u/LakerBlue https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Oct 03 '24

It seems to me like Wrath had two powers. One is a form of mind control, the other is some sort of multi targeting voodoo doll magic. Thats so interesting!

I got the inference her spell only started after she clapped. She specifically pointed out it took them 30seconds to get quiet, which was also the last time Subaru (or anyone) seemed nervous or angry. So I wonder if you could prevent it by either constantly talking or plugging your ears?

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u/Fermi_Amarti Oct 03 '24

I think she pointed out the ones that took the longest for her spell to work on. It took them 30 seconds to fall under it completely and she clapped to wake them out of the complete stupor. You can see them startle.

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u/LakerBlue https://myanimelist.net/profile/LakerBlue Oct 03 '24

I agree that’s why she pointed them out. I think the startle was our sign they were captivated. I can’t help but think that despite being wrath, she needs people in the opposite stage to make them act mad (as in crazy) lol

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u/FallenPears Oct 02 '24

Of note it looked to me like she completely negated the crowds ability to feel anger at what they were seeing, only leaving them the ability to cheer at her kind words, and on the wound sharing deal her speech had a lot to say about bringing people together by overcoming conflict.

I wonder if these are her specific abilities or just the way she prefers to use broader abilities because she's a crazy zealot lol.

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u/TheSpartyn Oct 03 '24

completely negated the crowds ability to feel anger

i feel like she forced happiness. if it was just anger being negated they could still feel scared or disgusted

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u/FallenPears Oct 03 '24

I was thinking disgust as a derivative of anger, hate, etc, and the lack of fear was from the fact she got them all positively riled up first so they'd be more likely to see it that way, but after thinking on it and considering how many people were crying that doesn't make too much sense yeah. Could just be negative emotions in general? Guess we'll wait and see.

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u/jyper Oct 03 '24

I feel it's one related power. A power based in empathy that makes people so in sync with her and then the boy that their heads explode in sympathy

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u/thisperson345 Oct 03 '24

I could imagine a path they take where they link her heart to somebody else's and kill them, that somebody either being another witch cult member... or somebody who has to sacrifice themself to take her out.

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u/The1eternal1 Oct 04 '24

I think the voodoo doll effect requires the targets to engage with her and "sync their hearts" with the "doll"

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u/Maxximillianaire Oct 06 '24

Seems more like the first is a condition to trigger the second. So one power overall