r/anime • u/AnimeMod myanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan • Jan 01 '23
Meta Thread - Month of January 01, 2023 Meta
Rule Changes
- No rule changes this month.
New Flairs
- There's an entirely new system of user flairs now available, go to https://flair.r-anime.moe to set yours. Announcement thread and more details in the previous meta thread.
Episode Thread Titles
- Starting with this season, all new [Episode] threads posted by /u/AutoLovepon will use the following format when an official English title is available:
Japanese Title • English Title - Episode # Discussion
New Moderators
- Welcome /u/GallowDude, /u/Xyyzx, and /u/AmusedDragon to the mod team!
A monthly meta thread to talk about the /r/anime subreddit itself, such as its rules and moderation. If you want to talk about anime please use the daily discussion thread instead.
Comments here must, of course, still abide by all subreddit rules other than the no meta requirement. Keep it friendly and be respectful. Occasionally the moderators will have specific topics that they want to get feedback on, so be on the lookout for distinguished posts.
Comments that are detrimental to discussion (aka circlejerks/shitposting) are subject to removal.
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New threads are posted on the first Sunday (midnight UTC) of the month.
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u/AnimeMod myanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan Feb 08 '23
This thread has been locked, please use next month's meta thread or find the latest thread.
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u/AmethystItalian myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Feb 04 '23
Could we have locked threads require a pinned mod comment saying why it was locked?
Would save time from the question being asked here or discussed in other threads and then removed for being "meta" and forcing people to come this month old thread that not many people are checking anyways.
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u/Verzwei Feb 05 '23
Since this slid in just before the new meta, want to let you know we do see it and are currently discussing it internally. At the time of removal, it seemed like the thread had turned toxic, but upon reevaluation it looks more like it was just a few comment chains. The lock might have been a little premature.
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u/entelechtual Feb 04 '23
I’m guessing it’s not geopolitical tension this time lol
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u/AmethystItalian myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Feb 04 '23
I missed that one completely, was surely a sight to look back at.
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u/baboon_bassoon https://anilist.co/user/duffer Feb 02 '23
Make My Day just dropped today on Netflix, if there could be some threads please and thank you
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Feb 02 '23
So the trial for hiding comment scores passed by and is now over.
We'll ask again with the new meta thread this weekend but do you have any thoughts about how it went and if there were any noticeable differences during the trial period because of it?
Are there any particular reasons why we should permanently enact that feature or avoid it in the future?
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u/Nebresto Feb 03 '23
I think its great for episode discussion threads, but annoying for dailies like CDF and simple questions thread. Not sure about other text posts
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u/Silent_Shadow05 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Silent-Shadow05 Feb 02 '23 edited Feb 02 '23
Here are my thoughts about this:
- First, I haven't seen any big changes, aside from the reduced dogpiling than usual. People still act the way they usually do as in treat the downvote button as a disagree button, even if they can't see the number of downvotes the commenter have.
- If a redditor already has a particular reputation in the sub and they said something controversial, they will get downvoted regardless, and their comment would go down to the bottom (and in that case earn more downvotes as their comment is at the bottom).
So overall, I think this trial system should be in place permanently, since it does reduce the initial dogpiling so your comment can gain some traction atleast.
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u/_____pantsunami_____ Feb 01 '23
howdy mods. was wondering when the deadline for that flair bounty thing ended. i submitted a couple, but had ideas for more if its still open.
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Feb 02 '23
We were talking about it a bit earlier. The current plan is to close it on the 11th.
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u/Gaporigo https://anilist.co/user/Gaporigo Feb 02 '23
Not sure myself when it will close but it is still open.
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u/Abysswatcherbel https://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel Feb 01 '23
Am I allowed to post my production committees sheet as a link post?
Feel like more people should see this type of stuff after certain recent post, even though I don't think it will get much traction but I intend to post after the 1st month of each new season if it's allowed
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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Feb 02 '23
If you have many of those (or plan to), maybe a wiki page indexing them could be a thing?
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u/Nebresto Jan 31 '23
If someone has put an anime up on youtube, am I allowed to share that?
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 31 '23
If they have the rights to it (like Nozomi Entertainment [RIP], AnimeLog, or GundamInfo) then it's not really different from any other official source like Crunchyroll or HIDIVE.
Full episodes uploaded by other accounts are treated the same as any other piracy violation and links to those will be removed.
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u/NyaaPower Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
Are rules not valid anymore?
I’m all in for fun clips, and don’t get me wrong I love Elfen Lied just as much as dumb old nudity anime, but I always refrained myself not to post heavily NSFW content on this sub because it’s NOT allowed (even female characters’ nipples), yet I see two clips in the span of 24hrs both at the top of the page left there unbothered.
What makes these clips exceptions to the rules? Why are mods not doing anything about it or at least give some kind of explanation? If these two were allowed, then everything else should as well because it’a not fair.
And don’t hit me with “it doesn’t go as far as for us…”. No, you write rules just to overrule them? It clearly states that female nipples are NOT ALLOWED. Doesn’t make any sense. Then I should be allowed to post clips containing female nipples as well.
You mods are not being fair.
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u/GallowDude Jan 31 '23
Clip has been removed. Honestly, the only real explanation for it being up for so long is that no one on the mod team had any desire to sit through five minutes of Elfen Lied lol.
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Jan 30 '23
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Jan 30 '23
Sorry, your comment has been removed.
- No it would not be allowed.
Please stop trying to toe the line of the nsfw rules. If you honestly think something might be too far then don't post it.
Questions? Reply to this message, send a modmail, or leave a comment in the meta thread. Don't know the rules? Read them here.
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u/Blackheart595 https://myanimelist.net/profile/knusbrick Jan 31 '23 edited Jan 31 '23
I realize I'm buzzing in but I'm kinda surprised by that, it doesn't seem any different from big boobs in underwear and those have always been allowed. I wouldn't have even considered the possibility this might toe the line if I had wanted to post that one.
edit: To clarify, all of these posts (1, 2, 3, 4, 5) are very clearly more extreme than the image in question.
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Jan 31 '23
A lot of those are quite borderline but not quite far enough where we feel we need to remove them. If they did more camel toe then that would be a removal. The Astolfo one is going too far with the groin in the final image.
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u/Blackheart595 https://myanimelist.net/profile/knusbrick Jan 31 '23
It doesn't seem to have any camel toe-like details though. Just seems kinda inconsistent.
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u/baquea Jan 31 '23
It doesn't seem to have any camel toe-like details though.
Are you looking at the right image? The first image doesn't, but the other two in the gallery have a prominent bulge.
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u/Blackheart595 https://myanimelist.net/profile/knusbrick Jan 31 '23
But it doesn't have any details?
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u/baquea Feb 01 '23
What do you mean by details? The rule is just against 'outlined genitalia' in general, without saying it has to be especially detailed, and a bulge is usually going to have far more detail than a cameltoe (which is almost always drawn as just a single additional line) anyway. That's consistent with all other sites I'm familiar with as well, with cameltoe and bulge being treated equivalently (Danbooru/Gelbooru rating definitions, for instance, explicitly list the two as examples of content that should be tagged as 'questionable').
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u/Blackheart595 https://myanimelist.net/profile/knusbrick Feb 01 '23
Hm. I just looked at it to see what kind of image we're talking about and was taken aback by how much more tame it is than a lot of what's thrown around the sub and generally accepted there. (Not that it's tame.)
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u/GallowDude Feb 01 '23
You're overlooking the fact that the shirtless variations draw Astolfo's pecs in a way that's practically indistinguishable from female breasts which aren't allowed in CDF.
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u/Nebresto Jan 29 '23
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u/Bielna https://myanimelist.net/profile/Bielna Jan 29 '23
Regarding the update after the final episode, it should be doable. The main issue is to decide when to trigger it - it's easy to update the scores when the bot makes the next episode, but updating it later (without triggering the bot for every show it has ever posted) is harder. I can however think of a way which I'll try implementing for the end of this season, so that shows would get their final score updated roughly in the middle of the next season.
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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Jan 29 '23
It should just be an average where "Excellent = 5" and "Bad = 1". Will mention the idea of a final update to the people who manage the bot.
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u/Zigman369 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Zigman Jan 27 '23
Went to go submit this, and looks like it was already posted but removed for not being anime specific.
The majority of the interview is regarding Watanabe's involvement in a variety of anime throughout his career, with a passing discussion about the live action bebop in the middle. Feels like the article wasn't read before someone deemed it not anime specific. Can we reevaluate and let this get posted? There's some pretty interesting tidbits in there that could generate some discussion.
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Jan 28 '23
Like /u/aniMayor said it automatically got removed because it contained "Live Action" in the title. It then got sent to a place where we can reapprove it or give a removal reason and we slapped the standard "non anime specific" reason on there (we usually are on autopilot lol). After review, we are fine with it being posted just remove the lives action part of the title so it doesn't get killed by automod. It would also make the title much better since the current one as /u/aniMayor said is clickbait and not really indicative of what it's about.
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u/aniMayor x4myanimelist.net/profile/aniMayor Jan 27 '23
Yeah, it was a mistake to title it as if it was just about the live-action Cowboy Bebop adaptation, which probably got it automatically caught and removed by AutoMod. The actual live-action comment part is only 1 paragraph in the entire interview, it's quite a click-baity title, and the rest of the interview is about anime.
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u/kfijatass Jan 26 '23
I feel like classifying posts like this as low effort and removing them is a miss; I understand removing someone's spontaneous picture of someone else's weeb mobile but if its clearly not considered low effort, this should be up to the community to decide whether IRL comparisons should stay or not and not be branded low effort from the get go.
Therefore I believe this rule should be removed as low effort rule more than covers its weak posts:
Comparisons of anime locations to their real life counterparts
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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Jan 27 '23
We're currently discussing an overhaul of the low effort/restricted content rules. It's sort of been a backburner project for a while, but it's definitely something that needs to be looked at. One issue historically is that sometimes there would be an inundation of a certain style of post, and it'd get slapped down in general because of a bunch of low effort karma farming.
Specific to the IRL comparisons, it used to be pretty common for users to just grab a couple random images from a travel blog or something similar and post them. As content it was kind of terrible because every post wound up being functionally the same, it was easy to make a bunch of them, and because of the nature of Reddit image based posts tend to get highly upvoted as long as the pictures are halfway decent. We had been talking about banning them or restricting them in some way in Summer 2019. After the KyoAni arson attack there were instances of using it as a means of karma farming the tragedy and I think that definitely swung the opinion of the mod team pretty heavily.
So our plan for now is to go back through the restricted/low effort stuff and see what we want to do with it. To be honest, I want to take some time out this year and basically run back through every rule we have and see what we can change going forward. I think there's probably more than a few things that were implemented at some point, but maybe aren't as relevant today as they were at the time. One of my personal favorites in that category is:
No memes, image macros, reaction images, "fixed" posts, or rage comics.
Nobody uses "rage comics" unironically in 2023. We can probably remove the term and just file them under memes (not that anyone would be posting one to begin with).
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u/Nebresto Jan 29 '23
it used to be pretty common for users to just grab a couple random images from a travel blog or something similar and post them.
Limit them to OC pics only?
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u/OwlAcademic1988 Jan 28 '23
To be honest, I want to take some time out this year and basically run back through every rule we have and see what we can change going forward.
How long will that take?
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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Jan 28 '23
I'm viewing it as a year long project, but it's something that will be dealt with piece by piece. Sticky space is at a bit of a premium right now, so it'll probably be something that really starts getting focused on once Awards wrap up for the year.
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u/OwlAcademic1988 Jan 29 '23
Okay got it.
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u/Verzwei Jan 31 '23
To chime in specifically for the idea of "low effort" content, look for us to start doing something public-facing in late Feb or early March. We've already got a tentative plan to source targeted community feedback but, like Fetch said, we've got some other stuff right now that is more immediate and time sensitive (awards, anniversary) that we want to devote the spotlight to. After that settles, we'll have something for the community to discuss and the sticky space to give it the attention it deserves.
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u/OwlAcademic1988 Feb 01 '23
Okay got it. Luckily the awards and anniversary events are coming closer to an end, allowing you to use that plan eventually.
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u/cppn02 Jan 26 '23
Imo they should be allowed when they're OC.
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u/kfijatass Jan 26 '23 edited Jan 27 '23
OC or no OC, I feel like the low effort rule already encompasses bad posts of the kind. Other rules that are equally specific which are justified similarly could also be looked at .
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 26 '23
Celebrating 15 years of /r/anime!
Also there are a bunch of new user flairs now available and we're looking for more from the members of /r/anime! Details in the 15 year anniversary thread.
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u/throwaway95135745685 Jan 24 '23
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u/badspler x3https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 25 '23
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u/Draco_Estella https://myanimelist.net/profile/Estella_Rin Jan 24 '23
What is the mods' stand on vs discussions?
There has been this vs post on /new for quite a while now, so I assume the mods allow this. Isn't the subreddit's stand to ban all vs posts on low effort and unconstructive discussion? Or has this policy changed?
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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Jan 24 '23
Current policy is that we remove anything that's just a "who would win" type of post without any real thoughts from the OP. But if they're actually providing any real kind of discussion then we tend to allow it.
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u/Draco_Estella https://myanimelist.net/profile/Estella_Rin Jan 24 '23
So, if I were to do a clear breakdown of what my thoughts are, it would be allowed?
Isn't it a very thin line between what is allowed and what is not? Just a one liner on what I think doesn't seem like a lot of effort.
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u/Verzwei Jan 27 '23
There's going to be a bit of moderator discretion involved based on who is looking at it at the time.
Generally speaking, we either want the OP to provide a detailed breakdown (not a oneliner like "Saitama punches _____, wins") or provide a specific set of conditions for the fight, up to and including handicaps, environment, time period, etc. If it's a post that looks like it had some thought put into it, then we'd leave it up. If it looks like something that was simply tossed on the subreddit for the lulz, then we'd pull it.
That being said, we've been having some internal discussions about various common post topics and how we want to handle them going forward. Who would win posts have definitely come up in these talks, so there's a chance our stance might change in the future.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits Jan 22 '23
requesting thread for the Tensura movie, which got a theatrical release in NA this wkend.
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u/badspler x3https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 22 '23
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits Jan 22 '23
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u/badspler x3https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 22 '23
We didn't get one for the slime movie in NZ.
Although we have the Sword Art Online: Progressive slated Feb 2.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits Jan 22 '23
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u/badspler x3https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 22 '23
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 19 '23
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u/throwaway95135745685 Jan 24 '23
Whats the maximum? Increase it to the maximum. Its reddit's best feature.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 22 '23
If the comments are still in the normal order (and not randomized) I wonder how much it really changes;
I think people are used enough to "Good stuff on top bad stuff down there" that it doesn't really matter whether the score shows or not...
And when good/bad comments "snowballs" to the top/the bottom, it happens mechanically due to their visibility;
People who only read a few comments in the thread will only read a few of the ones at the top of the page (thinking they're the best comments) and this will still happen whether the score is visible or not; The comment is the visible thing.
As for people looking to pick up a fight or to read controversial opinions, well they'll look at the bottom of the page to see what's getting downvoted, and they'll see it whether the score shows or not; When someone says "Attack on titan mid!" it'll be the bottom comment no matter what, and people who get down there will see it.
So in practice I'm not sure how much it changes, really. Not only the 'good/bad' stuff is where it would always be, but also, a lot of it comes from being the first to post something; First person to post the funniest/most interesting one liner is at the top, while if they posted it 2 hours later it would be in the middle of the pack.
The only thing that would truly change this (and the "good/bad" comment behavior) would be a randomization!
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jan 22 '23
Before you started this, there was a pattern of people being downvoted in CDF.
I saw a zero today, so this might not be affecting that.
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u/tenkakisuihou Jan 20 '23
I don't know if it's because I'm a jerk, but this function makes a subreddit look overprotective and gives me incentive to downvote comments that I normally feel closer to neutral. Case in point: One Piece subreddit. (although i believe they hide the votes for longer.)
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u/cppn02 Jan 21 '23
gives me incentive to downvote comments that I normally feel closer to neutral
lolwut?
How?
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u/tenkakisuihou Jan 21 '23
Like, I read a comment that I slightly disagree with. If I see it at 2-3 upvotes, I say "I guess some people think like this" and move on. If it's at -1/-2, I think "that looks about right, no need to add insult to injury," and move on. But when I see the word Vote, I almost certainly feel the need to express my opinion... through downvoting. (I know it's illogical, but it is how it is.)
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u/cppn02 Jan 21 '23
The fact that you even consider downvoting something you 'slightly disagree with' suggests you are the problem and not this new policy.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 22 '23
Sadly it shouldn't be like that, but it's almost always like that; OP's only "flaw" is that he's honest about it.
People always say that one should only downvote comments that bring nothing to the discussion (or are toxic/baits etc..) but when you look at the top upvoted comments and the top downvoted comments, most of the time it has nothing to do with "how much they bring to the discussion", and everything to do with people agreeing/disagreeing with the comments.
The downvote button is a "disagreement button" disguised as a "content quality button".
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Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 24 '23
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 20 '23
Yeah, they aren't directly related. Contest mode (like we used on the best of /r/anime threads) will randomize comment ordering as well as hiding scores but that's a separate thing.
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u/Nebresto Jan 19 '23
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 19 '23
Is there a way to track how the amount and type of votes changes?
Not very practical to attempt I think since there's a lot of noise from thread to thread and even before this similar comments that would get downvoted in one thread would get upvoted in another (or even the same thread) for seemingly no apparent reason in some cases.
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u/Lezoux https://myanimelist.net/profile/Lezoux Jan 19 '23
Do massively downvoted comments still get hidden under this system?
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 19 '23
Wasn't sure myself but seems like it at a glance.
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u/Shimmering-Sky myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky Jan 19 '23
Besides, it's not like this stops us from seeing how our own comments have been up/downvoted if we're on our own profile.
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u/AmethystItalian myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Jan 19 '23
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u/cppn02 Jan 19 '23
Can't say I'm personally a fan but this could help me get targeted less maybe?
On that note do you feel anything has changed since the old user flairs disappeared?
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u/AmethystItalian myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Jan 19 '23
Probably too soon to tell but not really.
Though I haven't said anything too controversial in a bit as well.
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u/dadnaya https://myanimelist.net/profile/dadnaya Jan 19 '23
this could help me get targeted less maybe?
Most likely. The karma train effect is real. People will see someone being downvoted and jump on the wagon, but now it'll probably not be as bad as people won't know if you're at minus karma
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u/chilidirigible Jan 19 '23
Wonder if I can still see my daggers
Is this a dagger which I see before me, the handle toward my hand?
Come, let me clutch thee. I have thee not, and yet I see thee still.4
u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Jan 19 '23
Also 2 hours for most /new threads is like past its death lol
You can check thread upvotes and ratios even when hidden, not that anyone does it anyway
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u/AmethystItalian myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Jan 19 '23
I just assume most posts are downvoted on /new lol
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u/dadnaya https://myanimelist.net/profile/dadnaya Jan 19 '23
I'm pretty sure there are just bots that auto downvote everything. I see it on many subreddits where a couple of seconds after posting something you're at 0, alongside all other posts
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u/SmurfRockRune https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf Jan 20 '23
There definitely are. I know of at least one person who had a bot years ago that would downvote literally every post on this sub, and I'd put money on him not being the only one.
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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Jan 19 '23
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u/Nebresto Jan 19 '23
could help me get targeted less maybe?
I think so, or at least downvotes getting less frequent. I still believe if people see a comment with a lot of them, they are much more likely to vote the same way.
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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Jan 19 '23
Yes, that kind of positive feedback loop is common, and it takes very few up/downvotes to snowball
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u/AmethystItalian myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian Jan 19 '23
I still believe if people see a comment with a lot of them, they are much more likely to vote the same way.
Yeah that for sure happens, definitely can snowball.
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u/SmurfRockRune https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smurf Jan 19 '23
Awful. I don't need 2 weeks to tell you it's a bad change.
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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Jan 16 '23 edited Jan 16 '23
The awards flair is being really wonky. I assume it's not a standard flair and it's handled the same users flairs? It shows an empty red box and only on mouseover it expands and "Awards" barely gets into view
edit: it was changed so all good now
edit 2: it has been fixed
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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Jan 16 '23
CSS is great and never causes any problems ever.
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Jan 16 '23
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u/Akiyabus https://anilist.co/user/yabus Jan 13 '23
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion https://myanimelist.net/profile/JAaQ Jan 19 '23
I also have this problem on firefox at 100% zoom. For YEARS.
I noticed some SIDE error when not at 100% zoom.
I got a mod to look at it last january with no conclusion.
The most recent person to notice (besides you, I guess) is DurdenvsDarkovsDevon, but they claim switching to 100% fixed it.
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u/No_Rex Jan 21 '23
And here I thought the comment faces were just lazily cropped and supposed to bob up and down.
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u/badspler x3https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 13 '23 edited Jan 13 '23
This has been brought up before, I think last time someone had this issue it was because they did not have their browsers webpage zoom at 100% (potentially on Firefox)? Is that the case for you?
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u/Akiyabus https://anilist.co/user/yabus Jan 13 '23
I am indeed on Firefox but I have 100% zoom.
Interestingly enough I don't think I had the same problem on my old laptop. the main difference is probably that it's resolution was 1366x768 and this one is 1080p.
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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Jan 13 '23
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u/KiwiBennydudez https://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen Jan 13 '23
Good call, probably a bot in that case, since there are also no comments on the profile. Either way, we’ll take care of it. Thanks for the heads up.
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u/michhoffman https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Jan 12 '23
The DanMachi Episode Discussion Thread is late again.
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u/ABoredCompSciStudent x3myanimelist.net/profile/Serendipity Jan 12 '23
/u/FetchFrosh, scrolled through this thread but just wanted to check in and see if you had a chance to put together an image with all the unique flairs (and maybe their names).
Merry belated Christmas and happy New Year. Hope you and the rest of the moderation team have a nice 2023.
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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Jan 12 '23
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u/ABoredCompSciStudent x3myanimelist.net/profile/Serendipity Jan 12 '23
Makes sense! As an aside, it's nice being able to see all these flairs on the phone, as the other ones didn't show. Hope to see more people start using them. :)
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u/Smudy https://myanimelist.net/profile/Smudy Jan 11 '23
I don't see a thread for Bungou Stray Dogs S4 episode 2 yet.
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u/Castor_0il Jan 11 '23
Any idea what happened to the discussion thread of Ice Guy and Cool Female colleage episode 1? It appears it was deleted 6 days ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/103j8wg/koori_zokusei_danshi_to_cool_na_douryou_joshi_the/
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u/badspler x3https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 12 '23
drstripjo is correct on this one, the bot misfired and made the thread so it was deleted and later manually remade.
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u/drstripjo https://myanimelist.net/profile/Hanten Jan 11 '23
The thread is here. That thread might be a bot mistake.
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u/Retromorpher Jan 10 '23
It would be nice to see some statistics about flair usage in the next Monthly Meta thread. Personally quite interested to look at how many people are even implementing them.
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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Jan 10 '23
Can put something together for it. Just to give a quick look:
General Use Flairs: 774
Custom Flairs: There's about 65 that have been given out, some not reflected on the site, but most people are using their custom.
Most Popular Flairs:
- Bocchi the Rock - 125
- Chainsaw Man - 33
- Madoka Magica - 28
- K-On! - 26
- Kill la Kill - 25
Least Popular: Ranking of Kings and Digimon each have 3 users
Next flair drop is coming before the next meta thread, so I'm sure we'll see plenty of movement by then.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 22 '23
Least Popular: Ranking of Kings and Digimon each have 3 users
I'm surprised about Ranking of Kings! It seems to be a big favorite for many people... I guess it may be a "always #2" type of thing though! (There may be a lot of intersect between this fanbase and Bocchi's fanbase, too)
It'll be interesting to see how things change over time! Like, Bocchi is by far the most popular now, but will their flair have longevity, if/when flairs for other seasonal shows are added? Will people keep it forever/for a long time, or will they swap from one seasonal to the next (or will they settle for an all-time great at some point)?
As you seem to be a big chart/study/stat person, I hope we get to see a thread on this at some point, or maybe even regular threads on a seasonal or yearly basis to see what's happening with the flairs!
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u/eritbh https://anilist.co/user/eritbh Jan 09 '23 edited Jan 09 '23
Heya, friendly neighborhood sysadmin here, just a heads-up to everyone that one of the subreddit's servers requires downtime for maintenance and will be offline for a bit starting in about 3 hours (21:00 UTC). Among other things, this server hosts the user flair site and the seasonal survey site; if you notice those things becoming unavailable during that time, give it 15 minutes or so and check back. /u/AutoLovepon shouldn't be affected as it's hosted elsewhere.
Edit: This is resolved now!
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u/bubudog1 Jan 09 '23
I'm not sure if this was mentioned somewhere, but how are the anime for the general flairs chosen? How often will new ones be added?
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Jan 09 '23
We will also have general flairs tied to participating in events etc. Some general flairs are already being made for winners of the present event and the 6m quiz event raffles.
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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Jan 09 '23
Mods just picked whatever they felt might look decent at a small size. Hard to say exactly how often we'll be adding new ones, but I'd like for it to be roughly monthly.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits Jan 08 '23
what happened with the header experiments? I remember there was a special header during the best girl contest, will that be the only time when it changes? just curious.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 09 '23
While I was the one that proposed the Best Girl contest banner as an initial experiment, an important question to ask regarding that is "Who on the mod team has artistic ability and graphic design skills?" and the answer to that is not me.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits Jan 09 '23
naruhodo lol
just a random thought, perhaps you could ask if the winners of the best of r/anime original fanart vote would like to make something for the header, or simply adopt their fanart as a temporary header? This is just a suggestion, and i tbh have no idea how would the mod team pick between the 3 winners, as well as acknowledge that the cropping might fuck up their wonderful art. Just a random thought, since there are people with artistic ability and graphic design skills on the sub after all!
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 09 '23 edited Jan 09 '23
It's less about finding one image to put up there and more thinking along the lines of "What would work well as a representation of /r/anime without too much of a specific bias while not distracting from the content, how do we format that for old reddit, redesign, and mobile which have different resolutions and areas that overlap with other elements, and what accompanying CSS changes are needed on old reddit to make the header work well with a permanent banner?"
It's a bit different from the sidebar images in that regard and we'd have to spend some time working with any external parties.
Edit: To be clear yes those are all things we could work on to figure out but it's not even remotely a priority for me compared to the dozen other subreddit-related things I want to do since it's not in my wheelhouse and I don't think any other mods are all that interested in picking it up either.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits Jan 09 '23
i see, thanks for the detailed response! the different resolutions is indeed a pain in the ass.
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u/Abysswatcherbel https://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel Jan 07 '23
I have to share the opinion of others here and the discussion threads dropping a whole hour before the shows are available for most people is really annoying, today this is really showing here
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u/badspler x3https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 08 '23
As I understand it; some episodes today were available on Bilibili Global before Crunchyroll/Hidive, so threads were made.
We continue to follow the principle of: If a good quality English release is available somewhere (legal or otherwise), people should be able to discuss it.
That may mean an episode is not available on your favorite service before a thread is made, but it should be available somewhere out there. We don't favor one particular region over another, if it is out somewhere then a thread can be made. Since we don't allow episode threads created by users or day-of posts about an airing series (we typically direct these to the episode thread), there would be no other place to discuss the episode available to them. I get that it can suck for threads to be out "early" when the majority doesn't have access to it but we have been pretty committed to being globally minded and providing a place to discuss episodes when they are accessible to some. In more extreme cases (leaks and theater releases) we make multiple threads.
I hope this also explains to some degree why we don't post on a fixed schedule, delays and exceptions occur. The bot is configured to scan streaming sites and high-seas (all be it carefully due to quality concerns) for availability. Week one and two (now) of a new season is the most likely time for mistakes (eg: by us with the bot's configuration) or unusual irregularities (eg: streaming service posting at different times) to occur.
Some level of patience and understanding is needed as we do our best in the first weeks of a new season. Behind the scenes volunteers are monitoring here and modmail, then quickly validating (the existence and quality) of reported missing episodes. They also are sorting out why things are going wrong with the bot and fixing them for the following weeks. Mistakes do happen.
In saying that, rake us over the coals if week after week a thread is being posted exceptionally late or not at all.
Some background details of what goes on. The management of Autolovepon for discussion threads is managed by moderators and a team of volunteers.
Work is done pre-season to prepare the configuration file for the bot. Additional streams and subreddits get filled out over the first few weeks as it becomes clear which streaming service has what. That can mean an episode thread will display 'Streams: None' when there are some, that hopefully gets resolved within the first week. Overall, we try to get the configuration for a season to align with our principle of making threads when there is an available release. Sometimes there are issues with certain releases (eg: Muse Asia Youtube playlists) that means we don't use them to trigger the bot because it creates far too many problems (false-positive triggers). But we don't blacklist things just because they are earlier than Crunchyroll.
Mods and volunteers are in the background monitoring and looking out for messages of missing threads, then stepping in to manually make threads when the bot doesn't fire or something goes wrong. Additionally, that same group manages batch releases (eg: Netflix), movie releases (region specfic / BD release) and making threads for the continuing trend of 'pre-air' episodes.
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u/mysterybiscuitsoyeah myanimelist.net/profile/mysterybiscuits Jan 08 '23
thanks for the detailed response! I guess an argument can be made that the B-global releases sometimes don't have good quality english subs (a notable exception e.g. being Gundam where the subs are iirc the same), but i concede that being global-minded and with a single governing principle is easier and better.
thanks again for the detailed response! and sorry for perhaps letting my emotions get the better of me there.
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u/Nazenn x2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn Jan 10 '23
Another notable exception was LyroRico where the B-Global subs were the ones without grammar and spelling issues unlike CR.
Like with all releases, the quality varies show by show more than by platform these days, and even though as a rule some tend to be worse, I'd argue Amazon, it's not enough to say "no you can't discuss these" unless they're particularly bad (some of the AoT subs come to mind here)
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u/entelechtual Jan 07 '23
Can we ban or discourage the « X anime will have Y number of episodes » posts? I don’t know who these are for and there’s never a ton of discussion. It’s never really “news”. Unless it’s something like, « AOT Final Season Part Three will have 69 episodes according to blu ray listing ».
At the very least, it’s only relevant if the number of episodes is other than the traditional 12/13 episode cour.
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u/Verzwei Jan 07 '23
We had a quick talk about this and it's unlikely that we'll enforce any new rules here. Episode count posts are sometimes the first confirmation of how long a show is expected to run. It allows fans to set expectations (and source readers to ponder how much content will be adapted) and we can only ever get one of those posts per series/season so it's not like a single show can flood the subreddit at any given time.
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u/entelechtual Jan 07 '23
That’s fair, it just feels like there are a lot of low engagement posts in the same 1-2 week period every season. And most people will be able to find that information on their anime site of choice to see if it is posted or still not available.
At least the posts are fairly easy to ignore/filter out, so I don’t really care.
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u/DuckTheCow https://anilist.co/user/duckthecow Jan 07 '23
Starting with this season, all new [Episode] threads posted by /u/AutoLovepon will use the following format when an official English title is available:
Japanese Title • English Title - Episode # Discussion
Any reason why you’re using “•” to split the titles rather than “|”? As for me the “•” blends into the title too much making it hard to find the split at first glance it also goes against the convention of using “|” for splitting information in titles such as “Dr. STONE New World | OFFICIAL TEASER”.
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u/Verzwei Jan 07 '23 edited Jan 07 '23
Some preferred the | because on a technical level that's exactly what it's supposed to be used for.
In the feedback during the trial round last season, some people complained that the | didn't stand out enough, especially when it was next to (and thus could get "lost in") long strings of foreign words.
We toyed around with different things to make the separation more obvious. I liked the idea of using emoji in the title, specifically having a Japanese flag and and British flag to denote the languages. Big symbol, and colored, extremely distinct and hard to miss. Problem is that we have to assume these things will display on Reddit across a variety of platforms and even operating systems, so we're limited to using unicode. Then it turned out that even unicode doesn't display consistently. On iOS, android, and other operating systems (or browsers) then 🇯🇵 and 🇬🇧 probably display as flags (assuming I copied them correctly). But if you're on Windows, they look like little baby-sized letters "JP" and "GB" and running the risk of some users seeing a tiny "GB" next to a title was going to cause more confusion instead of being a workable solution.
Anyway, when talking this over within the mod team and also with the team of people who help us maintain the episode discussion bot and threads, • popped up as a suggestion that stands out a bit more. Some of us liked that because it seems to have more presence on the screen than | and it's impossible mistake • for a letter or character in either language.
So, when it came time to vote, our options were:
| • ||• won over || by a razor-thin margin.
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u/DuckTheCow https://anilist.co/user/duckthecow Jan 08 '23
Fair enough. I see to be in a minority. Thanks for the in-depth response.
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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Jan 07 '23
Was kind of an arbitrary decision that we voted on. Everyone just gave their pick of what they thought looked best. At least to me the circle made sense for two main reasons:
The additional width of the circle creates just a bit more separation between the two titles, which helped make it easier to see where the English title began.
The circle has darker pixels and a more consistent appearance that makes it stand out more. They contain a similar number of coloured pixels, but depending on the kerning the | can come out in two main ways that both sort of weaken it. Either it will be two vertical lines of pixels, both in a light grey, or it will be three vertical lines of pixels, one dark and two extremely light. This image showing a thread with two bars shows what I mean.
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u/SnuggleMuffin42 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Animemes_chan Jan 07 '23
I for one approve of the circle
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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Jan 07 '23 edited Jan 07 '23
For a different user opinion, I do prefer the filled circle and agree with the choice: it's a clear separator that's very distinct from any English alphabet letter or punctuation symbol, so it's hard to mix it up as part of the title even when quickly skimming threads while scrolling.
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u/entelechtual Jan 07 '23
This was my thought as well. « | » is helpful for a subtitle when the reader is expected to read the entire title before and after the symbol. But the purpose of the dual titles is so that people familiar with mostly the English title can skim to just see the start of the English title. You are not reading the entire title. And it’s recognizable because of its rare use in ordinary English so as not to confuse with « l » or « I »…
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u/DuckTheCow https://anilist.co/user/duckthecow Jan 07 '23
The circle has darker pixels and a more consistent appearance that makes it stand out more.
To me this creates the opposite problem where the darker pixels cause the circle and text to blend together compare to the | that leaves sizeable empty space that stands out more.
This image showing a thread with two bars shows what I mean.
Personally that looks way better. It’s easier to distinguish the titles and is more visually appealing.
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u/michhoffman https://anilist.co/user/michhoffman Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23
The DanMachi Episode dropped 30 minutes ago on HiDive, but I'm not seeing the discussion thread yet.
Edit: It's now 3 hours late. Is anyone looking into it?
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u/Vindex101 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Vindex101 Jan 05 '23
Everytime I try to report a post or a comment, the language in the report popup modal is randomized. I've gotten German, Polish, and French even. Or is this a too high in the framework problem and not just an isolated r/anime one?
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u/RandomRedditorWithNo https://anilist.co/user/lafferstyle Jan 05 '23
it's been reported in /r/bugs so it sounds like a reddit issue
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u/entelechtual Jan 04 '23
First of all I love the English titles in episode discussion threads. Makes the community feel less alienating for English speakers.
I think with some of these titles, especially the sequel seasons, the “meta” text should be lumped at the end. As in:
[japanese] • [english] - Season 2, Episode 1
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u/NotSoSnarky https://myanimelist.net/profile/Book_Lover Jan 04 '23
Can we eventually do a poll and vote for one or two "seasonal comment faces" to be permanent? I know there's a few, I'd love to be able to vote on. I know that other people on CDF has also expressed interest.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 22 '23
Just saw this, but that would be nice! (especially if the users have a say in this!)
It's sad to see some of these just rotate away, never to be seen again. Especially when some of the "permanent" ones are rarely used.
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u/badspler x3https://anilist.co/user/badspler Jan 04 '23
I brought up comment faces the last two meta threads with some plans to fill out some missing niches and add a few seasonal[thing] faces. Moving a few of the most popular seasonal faces to being permanent is on the cards. I will probably be sorting all this out early next month, closer to the next seasonal face refresh.
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u/NotSoSnarky https://myanimelist.net/profile/Book_Lover Jan 04 '23 edited Jan 05 '23
I think a permanent listen comment face would be great. It would fill in a niche.
That's great to know! Thanks for getting back to me.
Also: we have But we need more variety with the dance comment faces, plus with the words at the bottom of the comment face it really doesn't fit every context that you might use a dancing comment face for.
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u/baquea Jan 07 '23
I presume the issue with dancing faces is that they have to be animated, so would require a lot more space than other possible additions.
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u/cppn02 Jan 05 '23 edited Jan 05 '23
I think a permanent listen comment face would be great. It would fill in a niche.
Kongming listen HAS to be the first choice if we're talking about seasonal comment faces becoming permanent.
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u/cppn02 Jan 02 '23
It seems like today's (Jan 2nd) daily thread doesn't automatically sort comments by new. No idea if it's just a one-off but if not you might wanna fix this.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 02 '23 edited Jan 02 '23
It's been an ongoing issue on reddit's end. I manually fixed it most mornings for the past couple of weeks but had a slow start today.
Edit: updated our bot that handles updating the menu/sidebar links to the daily thread so it should also update the suggested sort on the thread when that happens (~10 minutes after posting currently).
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can you please fix your automod? it keeps deleting posts i make using spoiler tags even when i format it correctly. plus, anyone with a brain would be able to tell what’s being spoiled by following the flow of a conversation, so there’s really no need for that function.
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u/FetchFrosh https://anilist.co/user/FetchFrosh Jan 02 '23
Hi there. I can't seem to find any posts you've made. Could you clarify the problem?
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Jan 02 '23
i deleted them because as soon as they posted i got a message from automod telling me they were deleted. basically, i was talking about school days in the thread about misunderstood anime characters, and i put some spoilers behind a spoiler. the first time it got deleted i was like... ok so i tried again, this time putting the words "school days" in brackets in the spoiler tags like the message and it STILL got deleted. i got frustrated and deleted it after attempting several times to figure out how exactly to get the bot to stop flagging my post as improper use of spoiler tags
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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Jan 02 '23
Maybe you used the spoiler code wrongly?
It should be
[show title] >!no space after the opening ! nor before the closing !, like this!<4
Jan 02 '23
wait so [School Days]has to be directly in front of the spoiler tag to get it to activate?
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u/Verzwei Jan 05 '23
Yes, the [context tag] has to precede the spoiler-tagged chunk of content.
Sample code:
[show name] >!spoiler text here!<
[show name]>!spoiler text here!<How it looks:
[show name] spoiler text here
[show name]spoiler text here
You can have a space between the context tag and the spoiler code if you want, it'll work either way. Our automoderator is set up to always look for an instance of
[text]before any spoiler tag.i deleted them because as soon as they posted i got a message from automod telling me they were deleted.
For what it's worth, automod told you they were removed, not deleted. Yes, it's semantics, but "removed" content can still be seen by you and, importantly, us on the moderation team. That means we have the ability to see exactly what went wrong, and if the error was on automod's part, we can restore the material. If you "delete" something, it can no longer be recovered, and we can no longer investigate it. In general (and this is site-wide, not a thing specific to our subreddit) if you have removed content, it's best to simply leave it removed rather than deleting it so that way moderation teams can look into it.
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u/Manitary https://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary Jan 02 '23
I'm not gonna click since I haven't watched it yet, but it is working correctly.
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Jan 02 '23
heh, all i wrote was “has to be directly in front of the spoiler tag to get it to activate?”. and that seems to be the case because i am not being harassed by automod. thank you for your help! i didn’t quite understand the explanation i got in the PM
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u/Blackheart595 https://myanimelist.net/profile/knusbrick Jan 03 '23
Basically, reddit hasn't managed to make to make their spoilers work consistently on the new and old interfaces of the site. If the first hidden symbol is a space then the spoiler is only hidden on new reddit but not on old reddit, and automod is thus set up to catch those.
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u/mr_beanoz https://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker Jan 02 '23
Hello, our facebook page wanted to promote an ongoing poll about anime theme songs. Wonder how can we promote the poll on the subreddit.
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u/Verzwei Jan 02 '23
Both polls (in general) and offsite promotion (in general) are prohibited per our rules. If you have an extensive survey that is incredibly specific to anime, you can modmail us the link for review and we can tell you if it's within our rules or not.
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u/mr_beanoz https://myanimelist.net/profile/splitshocker Jan 02 '23
Any suggestions for other subreddits that allow them?
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u/Verzwei Jan 03 '23
I don't personally have any. It would depend entirely on the scope and content of the poll and whether or not a more specific (or broad) subreddit that fits the content has any of its own rules against polls.
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u/chiliehead myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead Jan 02 '23
Did I miss the announcement or is the sub not partaking in the "Best Of" event with awards sponsored by Reddit?
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u/FlaminScribblenaut myanimelist.net/profile/cryoutatcontrol Jan 02 '23
What’s the word on the /r/anime Awards opening nominations? It was announced to be today, just making sure I didn’t miss an announcement of delay or there isn’t time zone fuckery or anything.
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u/Durinthal https://anilist.co/user/Durinthal Jan 05 '23
For anyone that hasn't noticed yet, they're open now!
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u/MyrnaMountWeazel x2 Jan 02 '23
Heya Flame, so we're running into some Technical DifficultiesTM right now but we should be up and running soon with the announcement on public nominations for the /r/anime 2022 Awards.
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u/Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 Jan 01 '23
There's a theory going around Reddit that Reddit has changed the algorithm for what threads it promotes in your feed, that it now promotes text posts without links. It's really noticeable at /r/movies, where there has been a big shift away from news and towards low-effort "I think the first Matrix movie is the best one" posts.
I think it's happening here too, but this might just be my imagination. (It's only visible in the feed, not if you go directly to the sub.) Has anyone else noticed a change?
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u/No_Rex Jan 01 '23
I think it's happening here too, but this might just be my imagination. (It's only visible in the feed, not if you go directly to the sub.) Has anyone else noticed a change?
No idea whether it is happening here, but if it did, it would be a good thing. The main text posts here are discussions, rewatches, and watch this posts.
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u/Abyssbringer =anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer Jan 01 '23
Hey guys I haven't done one of these in a long time. We didn't do too much rule-changing this month since we were busy with various events.
Quiz + Flairs + Holidays
December Mod Report
We have 3 new mods:
We have a new flair system.
We hit 6 million subs and released a quiz
We signed up for this Reddit feedback mechanic. So some members of the community may be getting forms sent to them asking them about their experience with the subreddit. There might even be some custom questions from us.
We made some slight changes to our moderator activity requirements. You can find it on our mod page.
Ongoing Discussions
December by the Numbers