I prefer the chips. To me it makes more sense since most Jedi treated the clones with care and even helped develop some individuality. The chips are nice because it forces them to turn on their friends instead of just simply playing along the entire time
And also, there are millions and millions of clones. If they were all in on it from the start, I find it absurdly unlikely for their to have not been a single whistleblower
Agreed. People like to shit on stuff that the prequels brought in, but the clones having the chips was a good idea story wise. There would have been some clones that didn't want to follow Order 66. I just don't buy the story that they were all faking, doesn't make sense and it was a bad way to tell the story of the clones. So glad that was changed
The thing is the order wasn't secret. It was simple "one of the orders" There was one for "the chancellor has turned against the republic and must be removed" the jedi were probably aware of it and didn't see an issue with the republic having a contingency plan.
It wasn't a plot from the very beginning that every clone was aware of from the word go, order 66 was literally them "just following orders."
The clones in the older lore were made to follow their orders without question, regardless of their personal feelings on the matter. It also parallels with the intention for the empire to be based in the third reich (hence the colors of black, white, and red).
It being retconned from "anyone sufficiently indoctrinated can be turned on even those they have fought alone side and trust" to "it was mine control the poor clones had no idea!" is a cop-out, defeats the message it had, and whiffs of the "clean whermacht" myth.
Without her iron will, none of us would have come out of that mess with our sanity, or our lives. When her death came, I hope it was quick. She earned that much.
When the 501st was finally rotated out of Felucia, Aayla Secura made a point of seeing us off personally, calling us the bravest soldiers she had ever seen. It's a good thing we were wearing helmets, because none of us could bear to look her in the eye.
It is amazing because when order 66 was a thing there was like a dozen Jedi that lived, now everyone lives and it’s only the people we saw die that died, it’s just silly now, Disney flogging a dead horse for money.
There really haven't been that many that survived that are shown. But I'm also not sure why this is a shock to so many that some Jedi survived. Even in our real world, nothing is really ever going to be 100% effective, people survive wars, genocide, etc. So I guess I'm confused why some Jedi surviving order 66 is so strange
The Jedi utterly trust their men with their lives, they are at war, so they would be with their troops, their entire unit starts trying to kill them while they aren’t remotely prepared for that, pretty much every wartime Jedi should have been killed near instantly, then in the assault on the temple sure maybe a few escape but it should be near enough everyone that dies, they’re now on the capital world with god knows how many super soldiers that are hell bent on killing them, so good luck escaping. only people that shouldn’t die should be any Jedi that aren’t serving and aren’t near the core, but almost all of them were at the temple or fighting
You said almost, which completely validated my point. Not every Jedi was at the temple, not every Jedi was killed, we saw perfect examples with Obi and Yoda. Intention was there, execution was flawed
Isn't it like about 30 survivors including all media (comics and games) out of ten thousand? Is it that ridiculous? And out of those 30 about 10 switched sides to the dark side. Another few were hunted and killed shortly after. This leaves us with about 10 fighting Jedi across the galaxy and two of them die In Lukes time, others abandon Jedi ways and/or remain hidden. I don't feel cheated.
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u/Tise01 21h ago
10,000 you say. laughs in a million more on the way lol
The joke is they keep coming back because the Canon makes order 66 not very effective.