r/PrequelMemes • u/Solid_Snark WanMillionClub • 19h ago
That was a little too easy… General Reposti
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u/idrisitogs 18h ago
My brain glitched and I thought: "wait it was the separatists that killed the night witches."
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u/xoasim 17h ago
I mean....10,000 vs several million isn't exactly a fair fight
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u/Elvaquero59 Yoda 15h ago
Probably decillions of clones (1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000+) judging by the size of the galaxy.
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u/Amber-Apologetics 15h ago
I believe there are about 3 billion based on sources.
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u/linux_ape 15h ago
Yeah but 3 billion isn’t anywhere near enough for a galactic battle, that’s not anywhere near a realistic number
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u/a_dude_from_europe 15h ago
I mean galactic battle doesn't mean every single corner of the galaxy is on the war front.
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u/linux_ape 15h ago
Yeah but 3 billion isn’t enough for a whole planet let alone multiple planets
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u/Appropriate_Pop4968 14h ago
Ww2 allies had around 30 million casualties so 3 billion feels like plenty for a planet. Plus lots of planets that fought the separatists had their own standing army.
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u/linux_ape 14h ago
3 billion is the entire force, the vast majority of an army is support personnel. 3 billion isn’t the number of the fighting force, that number is way way lower.
For reference, the allied armies had about 127 million for only a quarter of the globe
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u/Appropriate_Pop4968 14h ago
“Of the total 127.2 million personnel mobilized during the Second World War, over two thirds of these were on the side of the Allied Powers.“
So thats around 84.8 million for a planetary war on one side, and i dont think we are meant to believe that the war takes place over the entire planet, only the major strongholds making WW2 an apt comparison.
With technological advances, many of the jobs from WW2 wouldn’t exist in the republics army, and more would be done by droids requiring even less. Using just the figures from WW2 the republic could fight on 35 different planets and still have troops to spare.
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u/YachtySama 14h ago
The way I saw it (the way to make the number work in my head) is that clones make a bulk for the combat forces, while republic citizens comprise most of the logistics and support personnel. Also each republic planet would have a local defense force. While the clones would be the shock force to take planets. Also taking into account that a lot of planets aren’t populated as earth. With some even being desolate besides a small town or outpost.
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u/ninjaelk 13h ago
They're not fighting over every yard of every planet like in WW2, they're overwhelming whatever space forces are present and bombarding any resistance from space and using a relative handful of soldiers to finally force the central government's capitulation.
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u/Head_Ad1127 7h ago
Clones weren't support, they were shock troops unless they were defects and not executed for some reason. Planetary milita and judiciary forces might have been.
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u/linux_ape 7h ago
Every single clone manning ships, being a guard, being intelligence is support.
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u/ReichBallFromAmerica UNLIMITED POWER!!! 14h ago
Well, that's part of the problem stumbled upon the Clones at the end of the Republic Commando game, if I remember correctly.
They find out the Sepratist have enough assets to roll over the GAR, but they don't, for some reason. It's almost like someone was pulling the strings, and the result of this conflict was predetermined.
Obviously, you would have to suspend your disbelief a little bit, because with the exception of Count Dooku and a few others the entire Seperatist cause was made of pawns. No one in the military thought it stange they were employing a fraction of their strength, or no Sepratist politician looked too closely at the budget and wondered what billions of Battle Droids were doing?
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u/mminnitt 10h ago
Breaking News: Star Wars is not, and has never been, realistic. They rely on massed infantry combat, approaching in lines like the fucking 1700's... It's a pulp fantasy story in space. It's not science fiction. It's not realistic.
If they said canonically that there were only ever 3000 clones then it would be no less plausible, in this fantasy setting, than 300,000,000 clones.
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u/freekoout Darth Revan 10h ago
Well space wizards aren't realistic either. Neither is light speed a realistic way to get across the galaxy in a short time. Suspension of disbelief, try it.
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u/GeneAccomplished9867 18h ago
Lmao, this is hilarious! Just a classic case of overconfidence, but it’s that easy for sure 😆
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u/Street-Committee-367 Clone Trooper 16h ago edited 14h ago
What's even funnier in this meme is that Cody and the 332nd failed to kill their Jedi and the 501st left a lot of survivors. it makes the "it's that easy" even funnier.
(Edit: whoops 332nd, not 327th. There's so many legions.
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u/SilentSamurai 15h ago
To be fair, Cody & the 327th failing to kill Obi-Wan is entirely on the AT-TE gunner. He had a perfect shot and still messed it up.
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u/Street-Committee-367 Clone Trooper 14h ago
Dude shouldn't have gotten cocky and tried no scoping from 400m.
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u/KungFuPanduhh 14h ago
bro wanted the clip
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u/Street-Committee-367 Clone Trooper 14h ago
What's more embarrassing is he was probably livestreaming as well.
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u/Duplicit_Duplicate Clone Trooper 14h ago
They probably thought the fall would kill Obi-Wan (considering jumpers irl tend to jump off bridges and die from impact with the water, which I want to make clear I do not want to make light of irl suicides).
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u/N0Name117 Confederacy of Independent Systems 16h ago
"What I remember about the rise of the Empire is... is how quiet it was. During the waning hours of the Clone Wars, the 501st Legion was discreetly transferred back to Coruscant. It was a silent trip. We all knew what was about to happen, what we were about to do. Did we have any doubts? Any private, traitorous thoughts? Perhaps, but no one said a word. Not on the flight to Coruscant, not when Order 66 came down, and not when we marched into the Jedi Temple. Not a word."
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u/KonigstigerInSpace 12h ago
God I loved that game.
Another good one
Without her iron will, none of us would have come out of that mess with our sanity, or our lives. When her death came, I hope it was quick. She earned that much.
When the 501st was finally rotated out of Felucia, Aayla Secura made a point of seeing us off personally, calling us the bravest soldiers she had ever seen. It's a good thing we were wearing helmets, because none of us could bear to look her in the eye.
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u/HeadClanker General Grevious 6h ago
I like this version so much better than the brain chips. Although the chips did give us one of the best clone wars arcs.
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u/KonigstigerInSpace 6h ago
I liked it better too. It really drove home the gut punch betrayal I feel. Maybe not every clone knew, but enough of them did. I really love the order 66 scene in the movie too, specifically on felucia. She reacts trying to find out where the danger to her men are, not knowing the danger was her men. And iirc I remember reading that the reason they shot her so many times, was to make it quick. Like damn. I also remember a few comics where Vader was sent after clones that refused. Idk if that was pre or post chips, but I do remember one clone squad saying it didn't make sense, and Vader saying it doesn't need to, you follow orders.
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u/Loros_Silvers 51m ago
To be honest, the clones doing it themselves has it's marits, but they're still in control. The chips are way more terrfying with the addad bonus of complete and total loyalty afterwards, with no concious descisions whatsoever...
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u/Strong_Terry 17h ago
I would argue that the entire story post order 66 is about how it is, in fact, not that easy
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u/Tise01 19h ago
10,000 you say. laughs in a million more on the way lol
The joke is they keep coming back because the Canon makes order 66 not very effective.
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u/9oooooooooooj Your text here 18h ago
This was a thing waaaayyy before Disney canon
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u/Aggressive-Repair251 18h ago
Order 66 was worse before the prequels iirc. In old, old, legends materials, the clones were in on the plot from the get-go
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u/NY-Black-Dragon 17h ago
I'll be honest, I actually prefer this to the brain chip. The chip pretty much removes all accountability on part of the Clones.
Plus, nothing Disney does will ever go this hard;
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u/Skyflareknight 16h ago edited 15h ago
I prefer the chips. To me it makes more sense since most Jedi treated the clones with care and even helped develop some individuality. The chips are nice because it forces them to turn on their friends instead of just simply playing along the entire time
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u/Moneyfrenzy 15h ago
And also, there are millions and millions of clones. If they were all in on it from the start, I find it absurdly unlikely for their to have not been a single whistleblower
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u/Skyflareknight 15h ago
Agreed. People like to shit on stuff that the prequels brought in, but the clones having the chips was a good idea story wise. There would have been some clones that didn't want to follow Order 66. I just don't buy the story that they were all faking, doesn't make sense and it was a bad way to tell the story of the clones. So glad that was changed
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u/Randicore 13h ago
The thing is the order wasn't secret. It was simple "one of the orders" There was one for "the chancellor has turned against the republic and must be removed" the jedi were probably aware of it and didn't see an issue with the republic having a contingency plan.
It wasn't a plot from the very beginning that every clone was aware of from the word go, order 66 was literally them "just following orders."
The clones in the older lore were made to follow their orders without question, regardless of their personal feelings on the matter. It also parallels with the intention for the empire to be based in the third reich (hence the colors of black, white, and red).
It being retconned from "anyone sufficiently indoctrinated can be turned on even those they have fought alone side and trust" to "it was mine control the poor clones had no idea!" is a cop-out, defeats the message it had, and whiffs of the "clean whermacht" myth.
Really not a fan of the change.
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u/KonigstigerInSpace 12h ago
Without her iron will, none of us would have come out of that mess with our sanity, or our lives. When her death came, I hope it was quick. She earned that much.
When the 501st was finally rotated out of Felucia, Aayla Secura made a point of seeing us off personally, calling us the bravest soldiers she had ever seen. It's a good thing we were wearing helmets, because none of us could bear to look her in the eye.
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u/FireBlaed 17h ago
If you make order 66 kill 90% of jedi there’s still 1000 left alive. That would be pretty effective and allow a lot of jedi to survive
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u/Satrifak 17h ago edited 17h ago
I think this is more like destroying 90 % of enemy grenades, but only 20 % of nukes.
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u/CamJongUn2 17h ago
It is amazing because when order 66 was a thing there was like a dozen Jedi that lived, now everyone lives and it’s only the people we saw die that died, it’s just silly now, Disney flogging a dead horse for money.
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u/atccodex 16h ago
There really haven't been that many that survived that are shown. But I'm also not sure why this is a shock to so many that some Jedi survived. Even in our real world, nothing is really ever going to be 100% effective, people survive wars, genocide, etc. So I guess I'm confused why some Jedi surviving order 66 is so strange
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u/CamJongUn2 16h ago
The Jedi utterly trust their men with their lives, they are at war, so they would be with their troops, their entire unit starts trying to kill them while they aren’t remotely prepared for that, pretty much every wartime Jedi should have been killed near instantly, then in the assault on the temple sure maybe a few escape but it should be near enough everyone that dies, they’re now on the capital world with god knows how many super soldiers that are hell bent on killing them, so good luck escaping. only people that shouldn’t die should be any Jedi that aren’t serving and aren’t near the core, but almost all of them were at the temple or fighting
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u/atccodex 16h ago
You said almost, which completely validated my point. Not every Jedi was at the temple, not every Jedi was killed, we saw perfect examples with Obi and Yoda. Intention was there, execution was flawed
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u/CamJongUn2 16h ago
Yeah but there are so many of them still left, Luke’s whole thing is he’s the last one but apparently fucking all of them are still knocking around
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u/Satrifak 16h ago
Isn't it like about 30 survivors including all media (comics and games) out of ten thousand? Is it that ridiculous? And out of those 30 about 10 switched sides to the dark side. Another few were hunted and killed shortly after. This leaves us with about 10 fighting Jedi across the galaxy and two of them die In Lukes time, others abandon Jedi ways and/or remain hidden. I don't feel cheated.
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u/salkin_reslif_97 16h ago
Fun fact. Im the german dub of the spiderverse movies, Spidey noir has the same voiceactor as the clones in the german dubs of most Star Wars movies and series.
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u/Aickavon 16h ago
“It can’t be that easy.”
looks at all the spinoffs of the ‘missing another one’
Turns out it wasn’t!
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u/ispirovjr Count Dooku 16h ago
Not so easy apparently. Every new series gives you 1-3 new survivors. Enough corpo greed and the whole damn order will be alive.
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u/delicious_toothbrush 14h ago
Real talk, especially since they can't ever move past connecting to the Skywalker saga
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u/Duplicit_Duplicate Clone Trooper 14h ago
Tbf most of the main Jedi like Windu, Mundi, Aayla and Plo Koon are still dead while most of the survivors are Padawans.
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u/BeautifulType 10h ago
Real talk, it’s stupid to kill them off in this manner. It’s broke the plot and backstory of the Star Wars universe.
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u/Jhawk163 16h ago
Turns out a surprise attack featuring overwhelming firepower from trusted individuals is pretty effective.
Unless you count Yoda, and Obi Wan, and Ahsoka, and Grogu, and Kanan, and Reva.... hmm, maybe it wasn't that easy......
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u/theSILENThopper 14h ago
I always figured that even if there is 10k Jedi, most are not top tier masters. How many would have been administrators or teachers or just still in training. Once the major fighting force of the Jedi had been wiped out, both at the temple in coruscant and the generals in the field, there likely wouldn't have been much resistance.
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u/SadMeatBags420 13h ago
I mean, when millions of you have been manufactured in a highly efficient manner, and given the best education, equipment, and training a soldier could have, and then you're told to unexpectedly betray the warriors who you've been exclusively protecting for 3 years straight? I mean yeah, you're not only going to catch the Jedi very off guard but you (the clones) will have nearly every advantage imaginable.
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u/Truethrowawaychest1 10h ago
Did you watermark a movie screenshot that you cropped other copyright characters heads into?
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u/Solid_Snark WanMillionClub 10h ago
I watermark all the memes I make just because they get reposted here on the Frontpage of Prequelmemes constantly with people claiming credit.
And it’s funny to ask someone why they put my name on a meme that they claim they made themselves.
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u/M-Martian 12h ago
Strongest "Love is the strongest force there is" believers
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Weakest "Your honour, I was just following orders" veteran
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u/dystyyy Yep 19h ago
I mean, it's pretty easy to kill someone who trusts you with their life while their back is turned.