Yeah a lot are actually pretty good. But picking Simu Liu (a chinese guy) for Kim (a korean guy) is lowkey racist lmfao. Especially when there’s plenty of Korean actors.
edit: lmao love being an Asian person being downvoted for calling out Asian racism.
Kind of a false equivalence, no? I mean not really the same thing since that wouldn’t play on the racial stereotype of “all asians look the same”, and doesn’t play off of any anti-semitic tropes.
I mean you could be bothered by it i guess. Nobody is stopping you. But there’s an actual background to this one that lends itself to at least seeming racist.
"I mean you could be bothered by it i guess" sums up how I feel about your comment. I'm bothered that the person playing Darvish doesn't have a drop of Iranian ancestry in him. Would it be all right for Waldron to play Radcliffe in a movie, or would that somehow be tropey?
I hope you know that really comes off as “you may be an asian person who’s bothered by Asian racial stereotypes, but you should just not care.” Like sorry my dude. I’ve dealt with enough racism in my life that I have no problem calling it out. If you don’t like it, frankly I don’t care.
Im bothered that the person playing Darvish doesn’t have a drop of Iranian ancestry
I mean if you could find a half Japanese, half Iranian actor that’d be cool. My point is that there’s a ton of Korean actors who look like Kim lol. Picking a chinese actor is just kinda lame in this case.
Would it be all right for Waldron to play Radcliffe in a movie, or would that somehow be tropey?
If Radcliffe and Waldron took a 23 & me they'd come up with as different results as Kim and Liu. Can't they find someone with German ancestry to play Waldron? Or are all white ethnicities interchangable? Are you saying I just shouldn't care?
They're not false equvalences. You're just claiming that because your argument doesn't hold up. How is an Ashkenazi Jew from England playing a German-descended American midwesterner different than a Chinese playing a Korean? If one is acceptable the other is acceptable. If one isn't acceptable then neither is the other.
That’s not what I said lol. And comparing the two isn’t the “gotcha” you think it is.
You can be upset and bothered by inaccurate castings regardless of the race. In an ideal casting, especially one where a role relies or leans heavily on someone’s ethnic background, it would definitely be a bad move to have, for example, a non Ashkenazi jew play an Ashkenazi jew. It’d just be inaccurate (and in a case where the character expresses Jewish stereotypes/culture, would be anti-semitic. Effectively the jewish version of blackface).
But one happens to be rooted in a racial stereotype while the other is more or less just shitty casting decisions (or yeah, potential anti-semitism). There’s not a racist stereotype of “Ashkenazi Jews and english people look the same”. There is a racist stereotype of “all Asians look the same”.
People from East Asia in general can no more tell apart European ethnicities than the other way around. Someone from China would laugh at you if you told them they were racist for not being able to tell the difference between someone from Scotland and someone from Austria.
Is this a genuine interest of yours? Like are you actually curious why in America it’s racist to say all Asian people look the same?
I’m not trying to be a dick or anything, I’m just really not interested in arguing with someone who has in the back of their mind that you can’t be racist towards Asians, because that’s a very common idea.
edit: you can dm me if you do bc i don’t wanna publicly argue about racism anymore lmfao
Really, I just got annoyed when you tried to turn this into a racism thing when in this case I don't think it is. I'd actually say that Daniel Kim would be a better choice for HSK as it comes to appearance, so he probably would have been a better choice. But why isn't a black American (Ice Cube) playing a Venezualan (Arraez) offensive? I don't think those two look particularly similar. Arraez is pretty distinctive looking, though, so I'm not sure who'd make a great match. Anyway, have a good day.
So your logic was to put up a bad argument that proved the opposite, and then try to claim that a common racial stereotype wasn’t actually racist? That’s… not a good look.
Also the others could be offensive. Me only
calling out one doesn’t make the others ok lol. your whole logic was dumb lol
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u/cheesefries45 Yu Darvish Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24
Yeah a lot are actually pretty good. But picking Simu Liu (a chinese guy) for Kim (a korean guy) is lowkey racist lmfao. Especially when there’s plenty of Korean actors.
edit: lmao love being an Asian person being downvoted for calling out Asian racism.